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Good Gaming Bluetooth Keyboard and Mouse?

Quaz and WallyQuaz and Wally Registered User regular
Hey guys,

I'm looking for a good bluetooth keyboard and mouse. I've been using a Rocketfish keyboard and mouse combo for a while, and while it's been "okay" I've had a lot of trouble with its drivers (I've had to resort to having two bluetooth dongles, the one that came with this keyboard and mouse, and one for all my other bluetooth devices that don't seem to work on the rocketfish dongle once I have its drivers installed), and I occasionally have weird connection issues (Which I think is related to the other driver issues). I've also noticed the mouse is not as smooth as a good wired mouse.

So, I'm looking for a bluetooth mouse and keyboard that doesn't require crazy arcane drivers and a unique adapter to work, and is smooth and responsive enough for gaming. Something with a decent range, like 20 ft, is also a necessity.

I know I'm asking a lot here, but I've been having trouble finding a good mouse and keyboard for the longest time. I'm trying to stick to bluetooth because when I go RF, I seem to get some interference from my bluetooth devices, and it just makes sense to have all my wireless devices using the same standard. Normally I just turn to Newegg, but I only found two bluetooth combos, and neither of them look too hot. Both have reviews saying they're not good for gaming. Maybe I ask for the impossible...

Edit: Actually I spoke too soon, there are mixed reviews on this one, but for the most part they say it's good for gaming, but not competitive gaming. But, really, competitive levels of gaming is not going to happen with wireless input devices.

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    dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    The best wireless mouse will be both more expensive and have worse performance than a middle-range wired mouse.

    I have heard some okay things about the higher end logitech stuff, but really would advise against paying that much for something just so it can be wireless.

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    Quaz and WallyQuaz and Wally Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    The alternative is getting really really long keyboard and mouse extensions, and trying to route them around to my couch in a discrete and non-hazardous fashion that allows me to comfortably use them and then store them away so as not to be a complete eyesore to guests. Then I would need to cover or rabbit-proof the cables. I think it might be cheaper (and definitely easier) for me to get a 150 dollar bluetooth keyboard and mouse combo.

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    ScrubletScrublet Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I fought this issue a couple times, since I use my TV as a computer monitor for gaming. Unfortunately my experience is that you're shit out of luck. Was 20 ft an exaggeration? My couch is about 8 or 9 feet away from the TV, so I run a USB extension cable for my mouse and keyboard. When I'm done playing, I wrap them up and put them away. Mildly annoying yes, but solves the problem of the eyesore and the fact that wireless just doesn't seem to work well at that range.

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    Quaz and WallyQuaz and Wally Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Scrublet wrote: »
    I fought this issue a couple times, since I use my TV as a computer monitor for gaming. Unfortunately my experience is that you're shit out of luck. Was 20 ft an exaggeration? My couch is about 8 or 9 feet away from the TV, so I run a USB extension cable for my mouse and keyboard. When I'm done playing, I wrap them up and put them away. Mildly annoying yes, but solves the problem of the eyesore and the fact that wireless just doesn't seem to work well at that range.

    20 ft is probably a little bit of an exaggeration, probably something more like 10 to 15 ft. I never really measured. But yeah, I use my big ass DLP TV as my computer monitor. I use the computer so often though, that it would be a huge pain in the ass to have cables to constantly wrap up and unwrap. (Not to mention the bunny threat. Seriously, they love to chew wires. These cord wrappers do the trick, but they make cords even more awkward, unpleasant, and ugly.)

    Let's just say I have a need for wireless, and I would even settle for sticking to my occasionally cutting out, two dongles with funky drivers setup before I resort to extension cables.

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    General_WinGeneral_Win Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Has there been any proof of wired vs wireless? I've used wireless for the longest time and I've never noticed any lag. Never been that far from my computer though.

    I mean aren't wireless waves traveling faster than electricity?

    I like Logitech hardware, the SetPoint drivers and I are in a love/hate relationship. You can always just use the Windows drivers.

    My advice is to go to a BestBuy/Futureshop and physically use some of the mice/ketyboard setups they have there. Microsoft makes some pretty okay stuff too.

    Depending on how much you're spending, you could be stuck with these guys for a long time and don't want to hate how certain keys are lined up on the keyboard or how you keep accidentally clicking a button.

    The keyboard you linked, my buddy has one and it is HUGE, the wireless one is probably more heavy than your Rocketfish one as well, may not be an issue, who knows, you may have sissy girly legs.

    I've got http://www.duurtlang.net/weblog/uploaded_images/logitech_dinovo_media_desktop-745000.gif and I like the size, the newer one is a little bigger.

    Also rabbits, cute.

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    HoundxHoundx Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Has there been any proof of wired vs wireless?

    Nearly all wireless mice put themselves in to a low power standby mode, fairly quickly, to avoid chewing up batteries. Some wake up quicker than others, but there is a noticeable delay on all of them. So wired mice win on that without having to consider anything else.

    I still prefer wireless and haven't used a wired mouse, outside work, in over 10 years.

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    General_WinGeneral_Win Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    But for a FPS you're pretty much always clicking and moving around, so you probably wouldn't notice that.

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    Quaz and WallyQuaz and Wally Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Has there been any proof of wired vs wireless? I've used wireless for the longest time and I've never noticed any lag. Never been that far from my computer though.

    I mean aren't wireless waves traveling faster than electricity?

    I like Logitech hardware, the SetPoint drivers and I are in a love/hate relationship. You can always just use the Windows drivers.

    My advice is to go to a BestBuy/Futureshop and physically use some of the mice/ketyboard setups they have there. Microsoft makes some pretty okay stuff too.

    Depending on how much you're spending, you could be stuck with these guys for a long time and don't want to hate how certain keys are lined up on the keyboard or how you keep accidentally clicking a button.

    The keyboard you linked, my buddy has one and it is HUGE, the wireless one is probably more heavy than your Rocketfish one as well, may not be an issue, who knows, you may have sissy girly legs.

    I've got http://www.duurtlang.net/weblog/uploaded_images/logitech_dinovo_media_desktop-745000.gif and I like the size, the newer one is a little bigger.

    Also rabbits, cute.

    At this point, I'm much more concerned about quality of hardware and reasonability of software than I am with overall keyboard layout and size. Although, you do have a point. If it's ridiculous, then that could be an issue. I think as long as it fits on my lap (I've got hueg manly man legs), and in the storage space under my coffee table, it'll be fine. I've read that on the particular keyboard I was looking at, that there were some layout and key issues, like no scroll lock, no windows key on the right, and the numpad pretty much locked to number use (Fortunately for me, I only use the numpad for numbers, and I don't care about the missing keys).

    I seem to remember looking at the keyboard you linked from Newegg, but they don't have it there anymore... I wonder what happened. I also can't remember why I decided against buying it. Probably price, at the time I couldn't afford to spend more than 50 on a keyboard. Looking at it on Amazon, it's still a little pricy. Reviews say that the keys can become unresponsive after a few weeks of intensive use, have you had this issue?

    And sleep delay isn't a huge deal. The only time it really matters to me is when the sound is all of a sudden TOO LOUD and I need to stop it NAO!

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    TheUnsane1TheUnsane1 PhiladelphiaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    my buddy runs this: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-DiNovo-Cordless-Bluetooth-Desktop/dp/B0000UV0JA
    with a similar set up to what you stated and loves it.

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    General_WinGeneral_Win Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Has there been any proof of wired vs wireless? I've used wireless for the longest time and I've never noticed any lag. Never been that far from my computer though.

    I mean aren't wireless waves traveling faster than electricity?

    I like Logitech hardware, the SetPoint drivers and I are in a love/hate relationship. You can always just use the Windows drivers.

    My advice is to go to a BestBuy/Futureshop and physically use some of the mice/ketyboard setups they have there. Microsoft makes some pretty okay stuff too.

    Depending on how much you're spending, you could be stuck with these guys for a long time and don't want to hate how certain keys are lined up on the keyboard or how you keep accidentally clicking a button.

    The keyboard you linked, my buddy has one and it is HUGE, the wireless one is probably more heavy than your Rocketfish one as well, may not be an issue, who knows, you may have sissy girly legs.

    I've got http://www.duurtlang.net/weblog/uploaded_images/logitech_dinovo_media_desktop-745000.gif and I like the size, the newer one is a little bigger.

    Also rabbits, cute.

    At this point, I'm much more concerned about quality of hardware and reasonability of software than I am with overall keyboard layout and size. Although, you do have a point. If it's ridiculous, then that could be an issue. I think as long as it fits on my lap (I've got hueg manly man legs), and in the storage space under my coffee table, it'll be fine. I've read that on the particular keyboard I was looking at, that there were some layout and key issues, like no scroll lock, no windows key on the right, and the numpad pretty much locked to number use (Fortunately for me, I only use the numpad for numbers, and I don't care about the missing keys).

    I seem to remember looking at the keyboard you linked from Newegg, but they don't have it there anymore... I wonder what happened. I also can't remember why I decided against buying it. Probably price, at the time I couldn't afford to spend more than 50 on a keyboard. Looking at it on Amazon, it's still a little pricy. Reviews say that the keys can become unresponsive after a few weeks of intensive use, have you had this issue?

    And sleep delay isn't a huge deal. The only time it really matters to me is when the sound is all of a sudden TOO LOUD and I need to stop it NAO!

    First off, my keyboard's num pad is detached. So if you're in love with numpads...mine is in a box somewhere.
    Also my kit is the RF one. My brother has the BT one and the numpad has a little screen and can display what track is playing in WMP and can play/stop/pause/next/back.

    Also on the unresponsiveness...my left shift I have to push slightly harder on. Every other key is fine. I've had it for over 5 years as well. The unresponsiveness may have been fixed in the newer models.

    Also, the keys are low profile, like a laptop keyboard's keys. I love it, some people like big keys and the clickity clack.

    The BT one is very expensive though, but it looks super sleak and sexy. I've had many a BJ's delivered because of my awesome keyboard.

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    HoundxHoundx Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    And sleep delay isn't a huge deal. The only time it really matters to me is when the sound is all of a sudden TOO LOUD and I need to stop it NAO!

    Really tho there is a point where this matters. A year or two back the MS wireless mouse I was using went to sleep CONSTANTLY and took like two seconds to wake up. It became a huge deal.. It wasn't a cheap mouse either. IIRC it was the BT mouse that came with the MS Entertainment Desktop 8000, er so I'd avoid that one.

    Also, if you want a BT mouse instead of one that uses it's own proprietary adapter then you're going to find that your selection becomes pretty limited.

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    Quaz and WallyQuaz and Wally Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Has there been any proof of wired vs wireless? I've used wireless for the longest time and I've never noticed any lag. Never been that far from my computer though.

    I mean aren't wireless waves traveling faster than electricity?

    I like Logitech hardware, the SetPoint drivers and I are in a love/hate relationship. You can always just use the Windows drivers.

    My advice is to go to a BestBuy/Futureshop and physically use some of the mice/ketyboard setups they have there. Microsoft makes some pretty okay stuff too.

    Depending on how much you're spending, you could be stuck with these guys for a long time and don't want to hate how certain keys are lined up on the keyboard or how you keep accidentally clicking a button.

    The keyboard you linked, my buddy has one and it is HUGE, the wireless one is probably more heavy than your Rocketfish one as well, may not be an issue, who knows, you may have sissy girly legs.

    I've got http://www.duurtlang.net/weblog/uploaded_images/logitech_dinovo_media_desktop-745000.gif and I like the size, the newer one is a little bigger.

    Also rabbits, cute.

    At this point, I'm much more concerned about quality of hardware and reasonability of software than I am with overall keyboard layout and size. Although, you do have a point. If it's ridiculous, then that could be an issue. I think as long as it fits on my lap (I've got hueg manly man legs), and in the storage space under my coffee table, it'll be fine. I've read that on the particular keyboard I was looking at, that there were some layout and key issues, like no scroll lock, no windows key on the right, and the numpad pretty much locked to number use (Fortunately for me, I only use the numpad for numbers, and I don't care about the missing keys).

    I seem to remember looking at the keyboard you linked from Newegg, but they don't have it there anymore... I wonder what happened. I also can't remember why I decided against buying it. Probably price, at the time I couldn't afford to spend more than 50 on a keyboard. Looking at it on Amazon, it's still a little pricy. Reviews say that the keys can become unresponsive after a few weeks of intensive use, have you had this issue?

    And sleep delay isn't a huge deal. The only time it really matters to me is when the sound is all of a sudden TOO LOUD and I need to stop it NAO!

    First off, my keyboard's num pad is detached. So if you're in love with numpads...mine is in a box somewhere.
    Also my kit is the RF one. My brother has the BT one and the numpad has a little screen and can display what track is playing in WMP and can play/stop/pause/next/back.

    Also on the unresponsiveness...my left shift I have to push slightly harder on. Every other key is fine. I've had it for over 5 years as well. The unresponsiveness may have been fixed in the newer models.

    Also, the keys are low profile, like a laptop keyboard's keys. I love it, some people like big keys and the clickity clack.

    The BT one is very expensive though, but it looks super sleak and sexy. I've had many a BJ's delivered because of my awesome keyboard.

    The numpad is like, completely unattached? Like, you need some glue if you want to attach it to the rest of the keyboard?

    I'm kind of leaning towards one of these two (The one I linked and the one being linked). I would get a refurbed version of the one that is being recommended, but for the first time I'm concerned about the quality of a refurb in regards to these unresponsive keys.

    I'm trying to find the dimensions of the keyboard online, and if what I'm reading is right, the MX 5500 is about 5 inches wider, and the diNovo is about 5 inches shorter than the keyboard I currently have. In the end, I kind of like clicky clack keys, and I definitely like my number pad.

    I think I need to think about this some more, maybe do a little bit more research. Performance wise, have you and your friend ever had connection issues with either of these keyboards? Or Unsane?

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    ZellZell Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Every wireless keyboard I've tried gets upset whenever I try to use three buttons at once, using the wasd keys helps but not much. Seems there are no dedicated gaming keyboards (which likely would have that fixed) available... Considering trying a Microsoft bluetooth keyboard soon. Wireless gaming mice are available though, like that one Microsoft has and the Razer Mamba which I'm considering at the moment, but it's expensive.

    Now I just use a diNovo Edge, because it has a built in touchpad. One of the worst keyboards I have ever used.

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    symbolsorsymbolsor Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I've been looking for a good solution too but like everyone's said there isn't really one . So far I'm running with this keyboard and mouse:

    diNovo
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126046

    mX1100 Laser Mouse
    http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/mice/devices/4676&cl=us,en

    The keyboard works great for anything not game related. It starts losing signal when I start anything too intensive, it's just a few feet away from the dongle too. It worked great for a few months, had good response, never lagged. Now the problems are two-fold. If I have too many key-presses it starts lagging, if I stop pressing anything then I can expect the sleep delay to kick in right away. I don't have these problems outside of games and if you were looking for a good keyboard for just that, I'd go for it- otherwise stay away from it. In fact, I ended up buying a G13 gamepad just to replace this keyboards lack of game functionality. I guess, to be fair, the wireless signal from my mouse might be interfering with the keyboard, since it doesn't happen when it's just keyboard activity.

    ...The mouse loses signal when the batteries are low, but you get to say you use a laser mouse. It does feel different than an optical mouse...but..ehh. Opticals feel really smooth and no matter what the DPI setting is it never feels the same, it's good but not great. It might just be in my head, it could be my acceleration settings, I don't know. There's also no visible laser (in case I was getting any hopes up), I guess maybe if you had some smoke you might see something. It's easily the most comfortable mouse I've used though and that really outshines the bad stuff. The battery issue isn't a big deal to me (it's bound to all wireless mice, I suppose) and the smoothness isn't horrific or anything. The wake-up lag is there but it's pretty quick, not a problem at all if it's charged. I think I'd toss a recommendation that way as long as you're alright with some not-too-often lag and are cool with lasers.

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    TheUnsane1TheUnsane1 PhiladelphiaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Short of needing to change/charge mouse batteries in extended(like 12hr+, don't judge) WoW marathons I never heard a single complaint about connection from my buddy, also when I ran the logitech cordless mx duo set roughly 3-4 years straight with my gf also using the same set in the same room I had 0 issue with it besides wearing out the mouse buttons on mine, she still runs hers.

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    Quaz and WallyQuaz and Wally Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Basically, the only reason I'm still considering the first keyboard I looked at is because the reviews seem to vary so drastically on amazon and newegg.

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    General_WinGeneral_Win Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I have no complaints and I have the "crappier" version.
    Yup the numpad isn't attached at all, and it doesn't clip on or anything!

    I've found the only time I've missed the keypad is when I would be typing in a credit card number or something similar. In everyday use for just throwing a number out there, 26!, its never bothered me, plus again, more laptopy.

    Well the only time I get any interference or weird behavior is when the batteries are about to die. I've replaced them twice in the whole keyboard's life. BT will probably be more often as it uses more juice.

    I never notice the keyboard going into sleep mode. And technically inbetween click it goes to sleep.

    I don't know if things like crappy cordless phones or cell phones or bunnies radiation waves would interfere with a BT signal.

    I've never had any connection or lag problems with my RF old style DiNovo.

    I play TF2, with you guys some times and I don't have problems with pressing too many keys. I have found that if you want to emulate a d-pad using wads or your arrow keys you will notice the lack of input.

    I would never buy a keyboard with a trackpad if I wanted to do anymore more than surf, email, masturbate and listen to music.

    The one you're looking at is nice, but the screen is pretty much a waste, especially since you'll have to look down at your crotch from your TV to use it. There are some nice programmable buttons on the left side of Tab, so those would be neat for your TF2 scripts. Take a look at the Ins/home/page up/delete/end/page down keys. If you use any of those keys on a semi regular basis, like for programing or what have you, you'll find it extremely annoying having them laid out the way they are.

    Pretty much the only gaming thing about it is that it has a screen for pretty useless gaming information and 4 buttons on the left that are programmable. Performance wise, like wireless strength, simultaneous key presses, etc, were not included when they were making that a "gaming" keyboard.

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    Quaz and WallyQuaz and Wally Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I have no complaints and I have the "crappier" version.
    Yup the numpad isn't attached at all, and it doesn't clip on or anything!

    I've found the only time I've missed the keypad is when I would be typing in a credit card number or something similar. In everyday use for just throwing a number out there, 26!, its never bothered me, plus again, more laptopy.

    Well the only time I get any interference or weird behavior is when the batteries are about to die. I've replaced them twice in the whole keyboard's life. BT will probably be more often as it uses more juice.

    I never notice the keyboard going into sleep mode. And technically inbetween click it goes to sleep.

    I don't know if things like crappy cordless phones or cell phones or bunnies radiation waves would interfere with a BT signal.

    I've never had any connection or lag problems with my RF old style DiNovo.

    I play TF2, with you guys some times and I don't have problems with pressing too many keys. I have found that if you want to emulate a d-pad using wads or your arrow keys you will notice the lack of input.

    I would never buy a keyboard with a trackpad if I wanted to do anymore more than surf, email, masturbate and listen to music.

    The one you're looking at is nice, but the screen is pretty much a waste, especially since you'll have to look down at your crotch from your TV to use it. There are some nice programmable buttons on the left side of Tab, so those would be neat for your TF2 scripts. Take a look at the Ins/home/page up/delete/end/page down keys. If you use any of those keys on a semi regular basis, like for programing or what have you, you'll find it extremely annoying having them laid out the way they are.

    Okay, well, right now I'm leaning towards the hueg keyboard, the MX 5500. I really appreciate everyone's input, but I like my number pad attached (With my setup, I wouldn't be able to use it without having it in an awkward place), plus I like the feel of clickity clack keys more than laptop keys.

    And I can think of a use for that little screen. Sometimes I like to have my TV off, but just play some music, and if I could use the screen for that (I may be mistaken but I think I could display current song on there), then that would be excellent.

    As for the misc keys, they're in a similar arrangement as my current keyboard, I usually only find the layout of those keys a problem if they're squished on the side like a laptop keyboard. I am irked with the placement of the insert key (Why the hell did they hide it up there?) but I can get by with ctrl x and ctrl v instead of shift delete and shift insert.

    One last thing, the placement of the media keys are perfect for me. That was one thing that I was afraid I was going to lose from my rocketfish keyboard. The volume keys and such are along the left edge of the keyboard, so I can tuck the keyboard away to the side, and adjust the show I'm watching from the edge of the keyboard. If I could get those play keys and such to work, even better.

    I think I'm going to try this MX 5500. The diNovo looks great, and would be perfect for a lot of people, but I think this other keyboard just seems to fit my personal quirks and likes. This is assuming both have excellent performance and connectivity though, if I knew one was more reliable than the other I'd change in a heartbeat.

    Edit: Bunny Radiation is the core reason I can't have a normal old RF wireless keyboard. They pretty much came up to me and told me they wouldn't let me game unless it was on a bluetooth keyboard and mouse.

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    General_WinGeneral_Win Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I have girlfriend radiation, much more destructive.

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    Quaz and WallyQuaz and Wally Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Stay exposed to it long enough and it becomes wife radiation. That's why I can't have ugly bunny proofed wires everywhere.

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    General_WinGeneral_Win Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    House wife already, it has begun!

    Anyways enjoy the keyboard that is not my recommendation, I'm not bitter.

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    Quaz and WallyQuaz and Wally Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I appreciate the advice nonetheless. Made me think about other aspects of the available keyboards and helped me feel more confident in picking one. At least I know that people have had good experiences with Logitech. Even specifically in regards to how it plays TF2, which is pretty much all I play besides L4D2!

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    corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
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    ;)

    Although unfortunately it only appears to work with Mac OS X.

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    StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Are those chiclet keys even good for gaming?

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    autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I used a bluetooth mouse, and the bluetooth lag was very noticeable
    Don't know whether there was an update since then or logitech's mx5000 desktop just sucked, but I had a bluetooth lag of 20-30 ms, very noticeable.
    I've since then switched to a corded mx518, but I guess a non-bluetooth cordless gaming mouse would probably work better than bt..

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    General_WinGeneral_Win Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Did you have a good named brand mouse? I can't imagine people with all this lag and stuff in their mice. I've been using RF mice for about 10 years and I've never had a problem.

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    Quaz and WallyQuaz and Wally Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Yeah, even with my store brand rocketfish bt mouse, it was really responsive, just not very smooth. Good enough for playing anything but like... sniper.

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    General_WinGeneral_Win Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I'm sure the day will come where we'll have wireless HDMI flawlessly running out 2160 HD monitors playing TF5 and people will still complain about wireless mice vs cabled.

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    autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Did you have a good named brand mouse? I can't imagine people with all this lag and stuff in their mice. I've been using RF mice for about 10 years and I've never had a problem.
    logitech mx5000 desktop, with the mx900 as bluetooth version
    when I inquired about it, I learned that this lag was inherent to bt.
    It's not that much noticeable, but when you have a connection with a ping of ~90ms, those additional 30 ms really pushed it in the "not that fun anymore" territory for me. But as I said, it was a problem of bluetooth, obviously not of RF itself. Rf should physically actually be a faster transmission than over a cable, if I'm thinking right..
    But that was more than a year ago, so it's possibly fixed.

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    General_WinGeneral_Win Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Freaking blue ray man. We should all just wire the mouse cable through the ceiling.

    Except for me, my receiver is right next to my mouse.

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    DekuStickDekuStick Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    The best Bluetooth Keyboard and Mouse I've ever used was the Microsoft Entertainment 8000. Of course with that comes a crazy price tag. But I loved the keys, the wireless was responsive, and it was really comfortable.

    If you can manage it; a usb extension running along the side of your wall unobtrusively with the receiver plugged in to it could cut down on any range issues you might have. If you can do something like that I wouldn't worry about range too much.

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    Quaz and WallyQuaz and Wally Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    DekuStick wrote: »
    The best Bluetooth Keyboard and Mouse I've ever used was the Microsoft Entertainment 8000. Of course with that comes a crazy price tag. But I loved the keys, the wireless was responsive, and it was really comfortable.

    If you can manage it; a usb extension running along the side of your wall unobtrusively with the receiver plugged in to it could cut down on any range issues you might have. If you can do something like that I wouldn't worry about range too much.

    That's not a bad idea. Maybe it could make it look like some sort of a silly wall lamp.

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    DekuStickDekuStick Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Throw it in the center of a picture frame. Get some keys from your old keyboard in there, a PCB, and old CPU and you've got ART!

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    Quaz and WallyQuaz and Wally Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I just got the MX5500, and holy shit, it's great! Somebody lied about the keyboard width, because this thing is actually a little smaller than my old rocketfish. Thank you guys for all your advice!

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