Awww, I fuckin hate this shit. They bring back one of my favorite games of all time and they put it exclusively on the fucking wii. Seriously, as if DS: Extraction wasn't bad enough and now this. I hope it sells like shit just like extraction. I wish I could hate them to death!!!
Oh please, don't start that around here. You must still be hurting that the Wii sold 3.8 mill in December. :P
You must be an idiot of the highest order or I didn't make my post clear enough. I'm mad at EA for being stupid, not nintendo. I'm not a sony or microsoft employee so I don't give a fuck about Wii sales. A prequel to a game that came out on ps3/360 is made for a system that the original never even appeared on. That makes a ton of fucking sense EA, really. Now bringing NBA Jam to the Wii exclusively? This game screams Live arcade/psn title to me. It pisses me off as a fan of the original and makes no sense financially to make it an exclusive. I can see it bombing just like Extraction.
#1 - I was just messing with you, thus the :P
#2 - it's not a prequel to the XBox/PS2 title, it's a sequel to the original Arcade/Genesis/SNES title. So the original actually appeared on a Nintendo platform, not the others....so EA are just fine in what they did. 8-)
#2 What? I know I was talking about DS:E being a prequel and not being where it belongs. My overall point is EA being stupid. NBA Jam wasn't nintendo exclusive so it's not where it belongs. It should be multi-platorm. Hopefully, you can understand this so I'm leaving this in bold for you "I'm comparing these two game's because they both are dick moves by EA". Extraction sold like shit, and I laughed my ass off because I loved Dead Space, and felt betrayed by them fleshing out the story on a different console. I hope this sells like shit too. End of story.
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Ah, I thought you were saying that NBA Jam originated on the PS2/XBox...so I detract what I said there.
As for Dead Space, bleh, I don't like either of them.
Your problems would be solved by being a multi console owner, like many of us here are.
Also, don't be so hostile, I'm messing with you...you know, kidding and such. Oy, kids these days.
You felt "betrayed" by companies supporting other consoles? Wow...just wow. Making a game exclusive to a console you don't own is a "dick move"? Last I checked EA never signed a contract with you saying "We'll never release good games on systems you don't own. We promise!" But I don't attest to knowing everything they do, so maybe you have such a contract.
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See, when you make passionate, irrational, unreasonable posts like that, it makes everyone else here hope that you will sell like shit. I hope that you understand this and take it to heart.
So it makes more sense to release a full retail game with an expensive license for $20 on two smaller downloadable platforms than to release it at $50 on a system that has proven sales on casual pick up and play local multiplayer games.
Yep.
You think at 50$ it can succeed without the name Live or 2K in it's name? I just don't think the Wii is the right market for this game, well at least not on the Wii exclusively. Maybe the arcade thing is wrong idk. I just can't help but think people will eat it up on there because there is no "NFL Blitz" equivalent for basketball games. Madden Arcade has done pretty well on arcade and psn.
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It's also kinda crap (Madden Arcade that is.)
This is why there are times I hate the internet and console warzzzz age. It's all griping and self entitlement. It'll be awesome on the Wii, and judging by the screens it's going to look pretty awesome.
So it makes more sense to release a full retail game with an expensive license for $20 on two smaller downloadable platforms than to release it at $50 on a system that has proven sales on casual pick up and play local multiplayer games.
Yep.
You think at 50$ it can succeed without the name Live or 2K in it's name? I just don't think the Wii is the right market for this game, well at least not on the Wii exclusively. Maybe the arcade thing is wrong idk. I just can't help but think people will eat it up on there because there is no "NFL Blitz" equivalent for basketball games. Madden Arcade has done pretty well on arcade and psn.
Part of the reason you're so butt hurt about this is that NBA JAM is an iconic, well known, and once beloved franchise, so yes, I think it can and will succeed especially now that Acclaim is out of the picture!
ESPN of all places was the first to leak this game and that tells me that EA might even be willing to actually market this game.
See, when you make passionate, irrational, unreasonable posts like that, it makes everyone else here hope that you will sell like shit. I hope that you understand this and take it to heart.
Nothing wrong with being passionate. I'm surprised at your response because, and maybe its just me but the people on this forum seem very passionate, (more so than other forums I have been apart of) and even sometime's very hostile toward's game companies fucking with their favorite games. Also, I'm not unreasonable as I'm willing to admit I maybe got too excited, but I see posts like the one I posted earlier all the time on here. I'm not out having a parade that extraction didn't do well.
I was really hoping it would sell poorly so they would get a clue. I don't know what is so irrational about me wanting my favorite game series staying on the same damn console where it should be. When you do that you aren't being loyal to your fans, which is what I was getting at.
Btw, when you make vague statements like that without stating what your beef is you make yourself look like a lazy uneducated asshole just trying to stir shit up. I hope you take that to heart.
So it makes more sense to release a full retail game with an expensive license for $20 on two smaller downloadable platforms than to release it at $50 on a system that has proven sales on casual pick up and play local multiplayer games.
Yep.
You think at 50$ it can succeed without the name Live or 2K in it's name? I just don't think the Wii is the right market for this game, well at least not on the Wii exclusively. Maybe the arcade thing is wrong idk. I just can't help but think people will eat it up on there because there is no "NFL Blitz" equivalent for basketball games. Madden Arcade has done pretty well on arcade and psn.
Part of the reason you're so butt hurt about this is that NBA JAM is an iconic, well known, and once beloved franchise, so yes, I think it can and will succeed especially now that Acclaim is out of the picture!
ESPN of all places was the first to leak this game and that tells me that EA might even be willing to actually market this game.
True, but the thing is it was really popular... but back in the 90's. It disappeared for a while and of course the hardcore guy's like us remember it. I'm not sure that the name means anything to most gamer's anymore. I'm interested in seeing how the sales were for the post sega/snes installment's are though.
Also, about madden arcade. It's not great, but I do find it fun to play online. So much that I'm using it for my nfl fix and I may skip madden completely this year.
Jam is like my first exposure to opponents that just get fucking unreal if you start to win. You think you are safe up 3 points with 2 seconds to go, but no, no, a full court shoot is like a fucking layup for the computer.
Thinking about the overtime turns me into a Vietnam vet having an acid flashback.
The game really turns it up on you if you go up by 20 or more. You will start missing more and your opponents will not miss, strips become a matter of course.
This was the grandaddy of all over the top arcade sports games in the 90's so it's no surprise that it is also one of the originators of rubber band AI.
with the way they're designing this title, it's highly unlikely that it would have sold at retail for 360/PS3. Who knows, maybe it would have done gangbusters on XBLA/PSN, but I don't really see any huge discrepancy between marketability on wii vs. HD-consoles. Considering the lower cost to develop, the wii-gamer's taste for arcade style gaming, the massive installed base, and the lack of major competitors, it'll probably do as well on the wii as it would anywhere else, if not better.
Hey I'm a huge fan of NBA Jam and own a Wii but I won't even throw down the cash for this updated version on general principle and the fact I know they're gonna shoehorn in Wacky Motion Controls™.
Now if it was on 360 with HD graphics and some Live play and a real controller I'd hand over my 60 bucks so EA can chalk me up as a target demo "original fan" that won't be buying the game.
Hey I'm a huge fan of NBA Jam and own a Wii but I won't even throw down the cash for this updated version on general principle and the fact I know they're gonna shoehorn in Wacky Motion Controls™.
Now if it was on 360 with HD graphics and some Live play and a real controller I'd hand over my 60 bucks so EA can chalk me up as a target demo "original fan" that won't be buying the game.
What if it was on 360 with Natal support
Whoo look at me it's just like I'm dribbling a ball in real life dawg
But seriously if you think you won't be able to play this in a standard way with a standard controller you are insane. Obviously motion control will be an option but that shouldn't stop you from turning it off and forgetting about it.
Exactly, I have a Wii and exactly 1 game that doesn't have Wacky Motion Controls or forces you to play with the remote turned sideways like playing with a box of pens.
I have no reason to think this trend will not continue with NBA Jam.
Hey I'm a huge fan of NBA Jam and own a Wii but I won't even throw down the cash for this updated version on general principle and the fact I know they're gonna shoehorn in Wacky Motion Controls™.
Now if it was on 360 with HD graphics and some Live play and a real controller I'd hand over my 60 bucks so EA can chalk me up as a target demo "original fan" that won't be buying the game.
What if it was on 360 with Natal support
Whoo look at me it's just like I'm dribbling a ball in real life dawg
But seriously if you think you won't be able to play this in a standard way with a standard controller you are insane. Obviously motion control will be an option but that shouldn't stop you from turning it off and forgetting about it.
I dunno, I wouldn't be surprised if the game required motion control in some capacity. Something like shaking to foul another player or something like that is bound to be in the game. I've never felt that motion controls inherently ruin all associated games though so it's not that big of a deal to me. As long as you don't have to shake in time to dribble, swing a certain way to shoot, and jack off the wiimote to jump, it should be fine.
Exactly, I have a Wii and exactly 1 game that doesn't have Wacky Motion Controls or forces you to play with the remote turned sideways like playing with a box of pens.
I have no reason to think this trend will not continue with NBA Jam.
I'd say that means you ought to buy some better games. I probably have more than 20 that don't do either of those things.
you mean turned sideways to be quite a bit like the controller on which NBA Jam played so well... HMMM. We get it, you don't like the Wii. Go play some more 360.
I just want a d-pad and 3 buttons like the game was always played with. I don't even think the Wiimote has 3 buttons in a playable position when you turn it sideways.
Exactly, I have a Wii and exactly 1 game that doesn't have Wacky Motion Controls or forces you to play with the remote turned sideways like playing with a box of pens.
I have no reason to think this trend will not continue with NBA Jam.
I'd say that means you ought to buy some better games. I probably have more than 20 that don't do either of those things.
Doesn't mean they're fun.
Tatsunoku Vs Capcom is the only one I own that I can think of, but I've got like 100+ games collecting dust for that thing.
I just want a d-pad and 3 buttons like the game was always played with. I don't even think the Wiimote has 3 buttons in a playable position when you turn it sideways.
Why don't you use the classic controller then?
Wait, it's because you don't want to buy useless crap that should've come with the console, isn't it.
How are you gonna press A reliably when it's right next to the d-pad?
It just always feels like 99% of Wii games have A. Wacky motion controls that aren't great, or B. no motion controls but you gotta use the tiny little remote anyways like a controller and it feels bizarre.
Just don't see this NBA Jam working out for me, but I'll keep following the thread to see some impressions.
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More or less the same guns and enemies to fight. Similar but not quite the same setting too.
#2 What? I know I was talking about DS:E being a prequel and not being where it belongs. My overall point is EA being stupid. NBA Jam wasn't nintendo exclusive so it's not where it belongs. It should be multi-platorm. Hopefully, you can understand this so I'm leaving this in bold for you "I'm comparing these two game's because they both are dick moves by EA". Extraction sold like shit, and I laughed my ass off because I loved Dead Space, and felt betrayed by them fleshing out the story on a different console. I hope this sells like shit too. End of story.
As for Dead Space, bleh, I don't like either of them.
Your problems would be solved by being a multi console owner, like many of us here are.
Also, don't be so hostile, I'm messing with you...you know, kidding and such. Oy, kids these days.
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You think at 50$ it can succeed without the name Live or 2K in it's name? I just don't think the Wii is the right market for this game, well at least not on the Wii exclusively. Maybe the arcade thing is wrong idk. I just can't help but think people will eat it up on there because there is no "NFL Blitz" equivalent for basketball games. Madden Arcade has done pretty well on arcade and psn.
This is why there are times I hate the internet and console warzzzz age. It's all griping and self entitlement. It'll be awesome on the Wii, and judging by the screens it's going to look pretty awesome.
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Part of the reason you're so butt hurt about this is that NBA JAM is an iconic, well known, and once beloved franchise, so yes, I think it can and will succeed especially now that Acclaim is out of the picture!
ESPN of all places was the first to leak this game and that tells me that EA might even be willing to actually market this game.
Nothing wrong with being passionate. I'm surprised at your response because, and maybe its just me but the people on this forum seem very passionate, (more so than other forums I have been apart of) and even sometime's very hostile toward's game companies fucking with their favorite games. Also, I'm not unreasonable as I'm willing to admit I maybe got too excited, but I see posts like the one I posted earlier all the time on here. I'm not out having a parade that extraction didn't do well.
I was really hoping it would sell poorly so they would get a clue. I don't know what is so irrational about me wanting my favorite game series staying on the same damn console where it should be. When you do that you aren't being loyal to your fans, which is what I was getting at.
Btw, when you make vague statements like that without stating what your beef is you make yourself look like a lazy uneducated asshole just trying to stir shit up. I hope you take that to heart.
I agree completely!
True, but the thing is it was really popular... but back in the 90's. It disappeared for a while and of course the hardcore guy's like us remember it. I'm not sure that the name means anything to most gamer's anymore. I'm interested in seeing how the sales were for the post sega/snes installment's are though.
Also, about madden arcade. It's not great, but I do find it fun to play online. So much that I'm using it for my nfl fix and I may skip madden completely this year.
HARDEHARHAR. I guess I'm the only one on here that got my NBA Jam fix on Sega :P
All I have to say is "Cry more Baby. Hahahaahaha"
I'm only half joking.
Bouncing around a dumb ball is nowhere near as hardcore as firing white hot plasma into an alien's skull from the smoking barrel of your energy rifle.
Jam is like my first exposure to opponents that just get fucking unreal if you start to win. You think you are safe up 3 points with 2 seconds to go, but no, no, a full court shoot is like a fucking layup for the computer.
Thinking about the overtime turns me into a Vietnam vet having an acid flashback.
This was the grandaddy of all over the top arcade sports games in the 90's so it's no surprise that it is also one of the originators of rubber band AI.
How will I ever live without 50 mario rehashes and NBA Jam!? I will cry myself to sleep playing these:
*goes off to play rehashes*
Yeeeaahhh you're not worth listening to.
Do you have any idea how immature you're coming off? How long have you been here at the PA forums? There are better ways to voice your disagreement.
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Ugh I hope your joking, I haven't been here long. I thought the emoticons would give it away that I'm only joking jeez.
Now if it was on 360 with HD graphics and some Live play and a real controller I'd hand over my 60 bucks so EA can chalk me up as a target demo "original fan" that won't be buying the game.
What if it was on 360 with Natal support
Whoo look at me it's just like I'm dribbling a ball in real life dawg
I have no reason to think this trend will not continue with NBA Jam.
I dunno, I wouldn't be surprised if the game required motion control in some capacity. Something like shaking to foul another player or something like that is bound to be in the game. I've never felt that motion controls inherently ruin all associated games though so it's not that big of a deal to me. As long as you don't have to shake in time to dribble, swing a certain way to shoot, and jack off the wiimote to jump, it should be fine.
I'd say that means you ought to buy some better games. I probably have more than 20 that don't do either of those things.
Doesn't mean they're fun.
Tatsunoku Vs Capcom is the only one I own that I can think of, but I've got like 100+ games collecting dust for that thing.
Anyways, onward thread!
Why don't you use the classic controller then?
Wait, it's because you don't want to buy useless crap that should've come with the console, isn't it.
How are you gonna press A reliably when it's right next to the d-pad?
It just always feels like 99% of Wii games have A. Wacky motion controls that aren't great, or B. no motion controls but you gotta use the tiny little remote anyways like a controller and it feels bizarre.
Just don't see this NBA Jam working out for me, but I'll keep following the thread to see some impressions.
edit: I guess it doesn't really even matter that much, there are many other games to play instead
I'm sure we'll have Friend Codes tho
1 - run?
2 - hold for shoot, tap for pass
fuck, you honestly wouldn't even need run, so you could seperate pass and shoot