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Ziff is selling 1UP and EGM

Tasty ChaosTasty Chaos Registered User regular
edited January 2007 in Games and Technology
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While we've had our fun lampooning the periodically craptacular views of EGM and 1UP, it's strange to learn that the parent company Ziff Davis has them on the chopping block at mercy of the highest bidder. It seems we have less and less people to make fun of every day. (Sad panda!) So why the pink slip? GameSetWatch has thoughtfully noted that despite its $9 million in revenues, the company's gaming division is sinking like the Titanic from a half a million dollar leak (I dug through their garbage -- the money goes towards little squishy rubber balls at gaming events). Notable from the article:
... it appears that active sale attempts for the Ziff Game Group are in progress, with PaidContent commenting just last week: "It has been tough going for the tech publisher, with the print books sucking blood out of the company. Lehman is pushing the digital assets of the two divisions [including the Game Group], according to our sources. "(1UP isn't split out from the other properties in the Game Group in Ziff's financials, but the most recent results revealed a loss of $0.5 million for the quarter on revenues of $9 million for the entire Game Group - admittedly not in the Xmas quarter, which will probably do much better for them ...

We're surprised in the same way that you feel when you see purple mold on month-old Chinese food in your refrigerator. The writing has been on the wall -- it's a well publicized fact that magazines are dying a slow death. Who wants to read old gaming news? Not me. If it wasn't for the excellent witty banter of Jeremy Parish and those other veterans I'd have long cancelled my subscription. Whatever happens, they can keep doing their thing. Nah, who am I kidding? Die autobots, die!

So who's going to buy them and how soon? We don't know. If the Iraqis don't trade oil for it, we can only presume a media giant like AOL or maybe one of those half-hearted cable companies with gaming sites will want it. Either way, brace yourself for lameness and an onslaught of half true press releases from those that made it out alive. Elsewhere, the devil was seen tapdancing at GameSpot to the tune of cracked Johnny Cash records.


It's an irritatingly written blog post, but the info's there.

So, thoughts?

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  • Kewop DecamKewop Decam Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    "I got money in the bank!"

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  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Resolved; Tasty Chaos is a fine chap with a suave OP.
    So, thoughts?
    My thoughts is that it looks like site-whoring because you can't even quote what was said and you're forcing people to go to the link.

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  • IcemopperIcemopper Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    PikaPuff wrote:
    So, thoughts?
    My thoughts is that it looks like site-whoring because you can't even quote what was said and you're forcing people to go to the link.

    Probably not, it's a common mistake. Basically what happened is what is in the title.

    Plus he said it was irritatingly written, I wouldn't whore my stuff then say it sucks.

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  • Tasty ChaosTasty Chaos Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Dude, i got the link from digg, but i'm not whoring them either. I have Digg, fark, PA, and /. on my google homepage.

    Did a quick search, found it to be interesting enough to post, and not yet posted.

    I, personally, don't have enough of a definitive stance on what I think about it to establish a decent opinion, hence the lack of one.

    So, rock on, Pika is cool people.

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  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Resolved; Tasty Chaos is a fine chap with a suave OP.
    Icemopper wrote:
    PikaPuff wrote:
    So, thoughts?
    My thoughts is that it looks like site-whoring because you can't even quote what was said and you're forcing people to go to the link.

    Probably not, it's a common mistake. Basically what happened is what is in the title.

    Plus he said it was irritatingly written, I wouldn't whore my stuff then say it sucks.
    Oh he's definately not a sitewhore. It just looks like a lame site-whore op.

    I don't click links, and would like to know what's going on. But I guess I got enough info from the thread title.


    So... I have never read 1up or any of there items, except the live PS3 launch, if that was them. EGM, I peruse and buy the occasional magazine. They aren't needed anymore though, with the advent of the internet.

    edit: i did check post histories. I still want a good OP, though.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2007
    This probably won't change anything. Magazines are bought and sold all the time.

    Ziff probably wants their quarterly report to look good, so they're just going to let someone else take on the burden of EGM/1up for now.

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  • Tasty ChaosTasty Chaos Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    There. Now there's no real reason to click on the link at all.

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  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Thanks

    edit: yup, that is a crappy blog post. At least I know some numbers now. Not much to say. I hope whoever buys them doesn't kill them off. That's all.

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  • core tacticcore tactic Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Which gaming site does Rupert Murdoch own again?

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    EA could buy them.

    The thing is, I don't see EGM or 1up changing for the better anytime soon like other magazines (Nintendo Power) have.

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  • SilvanosSilvanos Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I'd like nothing more than to see them bought up and have every one of those fat sacks of shit from the 1up show get fired in a corporate downsizing. I'm still aggrivated at that bullshit attempt at journalism from TGS.

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  • IcemopperIcemopper Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    TexiKen wrote:
    EA could buy them.

    The thing is, I don't see EGM or 1up changing for the better anytime soon like other magazines (Nintendo Power) have.

    Is NP better now? I've been meaning to get back into the magazine scene so I would have some crapper material, but I don't know whats good anymore.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Icemopper wrote:
    TexiKen wrote:
    EA could buy them.

    The thing is, I don't see EGM or 1up changing for the better anytime soon like other magazines (Nintendo Power) have.

    Is NP better now? I've been meaning to get back into the magazine scene so I would have some crapper material, but I don't know whats good anymore.

    From what I've read every time topics about videogame magazines come up on this forum, Nintendo Power has gotten a lot better than it was 10 years ago. More objective reviews, better features, etc.

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  • countvaselinecountvaseline Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    1up loses money isn't really a surprise. How a site that thinks so much of itself can get away with such a poorly designed, both technically and functionally, website confuses me greatly.
    Mag sales are down everywhere and the reasons are many. The main reason is that gamers are cheap and they'd rather have some half-chewed, could be true could not be true news from a blog than from shilling print media.
    1up talks a good game but until they have the technical chops to provide a working website they've only got themselves to blame for loses financially.
    There are some good qualities there but their quality isn't up to snuff anywhere other than their podcasts and video content. And those are flooded in a shit-tide of embaressing platform pandering, culture-bating and half-formed opinion peices that make up the rest of 1up. 1up is a glorified blog site like Kotaku or Destructoid. 1up is not a big guy like, though it paints itself as one, Gamespot or IGN, it's an average sized guy with a big mouth and nothing to back it up. And I'm not suggesting Gamespot or IGN are quality products themselves.
    1up as a gaming website is an embaressment and no matter how much they push their positives they'll always be a joke till they pull their finger out and make a site that works. It isn't as if their broken website is a new thing. Their foundations are made of jelly. That they could be going down the toilet pan is not a surprise to me.

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  • mccmcc glitch Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2007
    If Ziff fucking Davis is selling you, you must really be doing something wrong.

    It is so sad. I remember when EGM was the best gaming magazine out there, bar none. Every issue was just one huge thick telephone-book-like slab of knowledge, with every page that wasn't an ad containing something valuable. And the issues had a fucking index! It was almost as good as having an Internet.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I'll pay

    *looks in wallet*

    $6.27 to buy 1UP and EGM.

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  • BiggNifeBiggNife Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    mcc wrote:
    If Ziff fucking Davis is selling you, you must really be doing something wrong.

    It is so sad. I remember when EGM was the best gaming magazine out there, bar none. Every issue was just one huge thick telephone-book-like slab of knowledge, with every page that wasn't an ad containing something valuable. And the issues had a fucking index! It was almost as good as having an Internet.
    Oh god, I loved those. I remember when the Dreamcast came out they had a huge roundtable discussion on every launch game, and it was great. None of their other system launch coverages compared to that.

    Honestly, I still think parts (keyword: parts) of EGM are still worth reading, but its a shadow of its former self.

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Which gaming site does Rupert Murdoch own again?

    IGN

    EDIT: I wonder how much the free subscription thing did EGM in

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  • PolagoPolago Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I'll pay

    *looks in wallet*

    $6.27 to buy 1UP and EGM.

    *looks in wallet*

    I'll up that bid to $8.23...

    *looks in couch cushions*

    ...$8.34, and a bazooka joe.

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  • LanzLanz ...Za?Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    PolaGo wrote:
    I'll pay

    *looks in wallet*

    $6.27 to buy 1UP and EGM.

    *looks in wallet*

    I'll up that bid to $8.23...

    *looks in couch cushions*

    ...$8.34, and a bazooka joe.

    I'll bid a partially drunk 24 pack of Pepsi and a broken phone headset

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  • Dareth RamDareth Ram regular
    edited January 2007
    I'd say EGM's writing is no longer of any quality , and their revenue is obviously reflecting this.

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  • OtakuD00DOtakuD00D Can I hit the exploding rocks? San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    TexiKen wrote:
    EA could buy them.

    The thing is, I don't see EGM or 1up changing for the better anytime soon like other magazines (Nintendo Power) have.

    I haven't read NP since the GBA premiered. How has it improved?

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  • MerovingiMerovingi regular
    edited January 2007
    Ah, that sucks. I actually like the 1UpShow and podcast. I don't really know of any other audio and video podcasts that compare, though.

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  • s3rial ones3rial one Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    The best part of 1up is Memoirs of an Urban Vigilante, and it hasn't been updated in, like, forever. So... good riddance.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    More like, Ziff is selling Poop and Shit.

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  • IcarusIcarus Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    1UP is my favourite general gaming site. I like their reviews and their features, and I love their audio and video podcasts.

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  • Bob The MonkeyBob The Monkey Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Lanz wrote:
    Which gaming site does Rupert Murdoch own again?

    IGN

    Seriously?

    Well, that explains a lot.

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  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I like EGM, but they have to stop saying 'assface' and 'douche' in their game reviews. That shits for the internet.

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  • Dangerou-DaveDangerou-Dave __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2007
    Whatever happens, I just hope it doesn't put an end to their podcasts.

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  • Smarmy LechSmarmy Lech Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Whatever happens, I just hope it doesn't put an end to their podcasts.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I assumed something like this might happen when OPM got canned.

    Anyway, EGM is a rag and 1Up, well, it's okay, but still, EGM blows.

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  • bruinbruin Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I like the 1UP Show and 1UP Yours (kind of). EGM lately, and for the most part 1UP's writing is bleh.

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  • JJJJ DailyStormer Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    1up is my favorite game site as of late.

    Though, I can see if you hate it if you don't have cable. It's a bit bloated.

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  • core tacticcore tactic Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Hell, they'd have to pay the BUYER to take 1up. They always write up the most contreversial reviews.

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  • ChtulieChtulie Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I like the 1UP Show and 1UP Yours (kind of). EGM lately, and for the most part 1UP's writing is bleh.

    And Retronauts. That podcast has gone from ok to quite good as they get more experienced with the format.

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  • redhaloredhalo Also a Professional Alcoholic Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    s3rial one wrote:
    The best part of 1up is Memoirs of an Urban Vigilante, and it hasn't been updated in, like, forever. So... good riddance.
    Sharkey's own site hasn't been update in quite a while either. I find him humorous.

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  • Lew ZealandLew Zealand Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    You know, I kind of like EGM because, really, I don't like to take my laptop with me to the can. EGM is good for that. But I got the new issue today... sorry, I got the new pamphlet today and I'm not too upset by this news. Seriously, EGM, there is way less then 100 pages of content in the new issue. What the hell?

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  • JWFokkerJWFokker Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Lanz wrote:
    Which gaming site does Rupert Murdoch own again?

    IGN

    Seriously?

    Well, that explains a lot.

    He also owns GameSpy, FilePlanet, Rotten Tomatoes, and TeamXbox among others.

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  • StriderEdgeStriderEdge Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    JWFokker wrote:
    Lanz wrote:
    Which gaming site does Rupert Murdoch own again?

    IGN

    Seriously?

    Well, that explains a lot.

    He also owns GameSpy, FilePlanet, Rotten Tomatoes, and TeamXbox among others.

    When I saw that EGM and 1up were for sale IGN was the first prospective buyer to pop into my head. I mean 1up for them isn't too great as they already have a huge site in IGN, but with EGM they would have a print format. IGN doesn't have a print format correct?

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  • AzioAzio Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Whatever happens, I just hope it doesn't put an end to their podcasts.

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