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bicycle noob + riding to school = ??

burntheladleburntheladle Registered User regular
edited January 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
So I'm doing a semester on exchange to CCA in Oakland, and my residence is about 2.5 miles from the campus.

I can ride a bike, but I'm not particularly experienced. Mostly I don't fall down. I can't do the thing where you stand up while you ride, or anything fancy like that.

Would it be complete madness to buy a cheap bike and ride to and from campus every day?

Things to keep in mind:
- I have never ridden on the road or anything before. To be honest, I've never ridden anywhere even remotely busy before.
- my classes finish late at night, is it safe to cycle through oakland at night (I have two classes that finish at 10pm)?
- I would like to do some exercise every day, and riding seems like a really good way to work it into my routine.
- I guess I would need a backpack, since a messenger bag doesn't seem very bike friendly?
- Are lycra biking clothes compulsory, or can I wear something else? What else should I wear?
- I am only here until may, when I would have to offload the bike again.


Thoughts? Tips?

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  • superchewiesuperchewie Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    That part of Oakland, by the Claremont, is pretty nice. I'd feel fine walking around there at night.

    As for the biking itself, I don't really bike at all either, so I can't help too much there.

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  • saltinesssaltiness Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Do you have any friends who already ride? It'd be a good idea to do some recreational rides to get better on the bike before you start riding in traffic and at night.

    As for riding at night. You must have front and rear lights otherwise you're basically invisible to cars.

    Riding to school is a great way to get exercise. I never need to go to the gym, I just ride my bike every day.

    A messenger bag is fine. That's what almost everyone uses.

    Lycra is not necessary. A good seat that fits you is. You really only need to worry about your pant cuffs. I just roll mine up so they don't get chain grease on them.

    Bikes are expensive here but you should easily be able to sell it for what you paid when you leave.

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  • Joe ChemoJoe Chemo Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Ironically, messenger bags are actually originally designed to be worn while biking. Whether your particular messenger is still suited to the task.... dunno.

    Night riding: You'll need to get a front light. At least one rear blinking red light. Might want to get some bright reflective tape/clothing.

    Clothing: you can wear anything you want. 2.5 miles isn't a long way, and plenty of people wear normal clothing for that distance. There are websites devoted to normally clothed cyclists.

    You might want to read some sites designed to ease you into bike commuting. Like this one.

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  • LavaKnightLavaKnight Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    - I have never ridden on the road or anything before. To be honest, I've never ridden anywhere even remotely busy before.
    Just practice for a few days before you do. Starting, stopping, that sort of thing. Practice riding with one arm because you'll need to be able too. You don't have to be a bike god to be able to commute! Practice good form while looking over your shoulder behind you by placing either your left or right arm (whichever shoulder you're looking over) to your side and looking. This helps you keep good balance and prevents you from swerving.
    - my classes finish late at night, is it safe to cycle through oakland at night (I have two classes that finish at 10pm)?
    Sounds like the area will be fine, but you'll definitely want to get a front light and rear red light.
    - I would like to do some exercise every day, and riding seems like a really good way to work it into my routine.
    Definitely!
    - I guess I would need a backpack, since a messenger bag doesn't seem very bike friendly?
    Messenger bags are the de rigueur of many cyclists, but you'll have to try it out to see whether or not it is a good fit for riding.
    - Are lycra biking clothes compulsory, or can I wear something else? What else should I wear?
    Anything! If you get sweaty you may want to where wicking baselayers, or something you can change out of/into, but it's personal preference. Wear whatever is convenient to you! I wear my work pants while commuting to work each day, but a jersey that I can change out of when I get to work.
    - I am only here until may, when I would have to offload the bike again.
    You may want to look into a cheap bike from a local co-op that you can possibly donate back once you leave.

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  • PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    There's already some great advice here, but getting used to riding and using bike lights are highly important. Building up experience and getting to know how much energy and time your travels will take will let you know whether it is suitable for your situation.

    And of course, stay focused on your own safety and you should have a blast.

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  • KingthlayerKingthlayer Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Definitely get used to riding for a few days first.

    Depending on how much you sweat when you ride, you'll want to see if your school has a shower facility available. You don't want to be the stinky guy in class.

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  • B:LB:L I've done worse. Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Don't forget a bike lock.

    It won't stop a hacksaw, but most crimes are crimes of opportunity and it should make your bike less likely of a target if other bikes are vulnerable.

    Be sure to attach the lock to the frame. If you attach it to the front wheel, they can just detach the wheel and still roll off with your bike. Of course, they can also steal both wheels and leave the frame but that's not as common and easier to replace.

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  • RasmusRasmus Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    So I'm doing a semester on exchange to CCA in Oakland, and my residence is about 2.5 miles from the campus.

    I can ride a bike, but I'm not particularly experienced. Mostly I don't fall down. I can't do the thing where you stand up while you ride, or anything fancy like that.

    Would it be complete madness to buy a cheap bike and ride to and from campus every day?

    Things to keep in mind:
    - I have never ridden on the road or anything before. To be honest, I've never ridden anywhere even remotely busy before.
    - my classes finish late at night, is it safe to cycle through oakland at night (I have two classes that finish at 10pm)?
    - I would like to do some exercise every day, and riding seems like a really good way to work it into my routine.
    - I guess I would need a backpack, since a messenger bag doesn't seem very bike friendly?
    - Are lycra biking clothes compulsory, or can I wear something else? What else should I wear?
    - I am only here until may, when I would have to offload the bike again.


    Thoughts? Tips?

    I live in a country where everyone rides bikes everywhere, well, except for me (until recently), so I have a couple of tips from another 'beginner'.

    First of all, get a helmet. Yes, you'll look ridiculous, but if you do happen to get in an accident, your head will be pretty well-protected.

    As you're gonna be riding at night, make sure you've got proper lights on the bike. Here in Denmark the police will fine you, if you don't (not sure if they do this in Oakland), but even so at night people have to be able to see you from afar. You'll probably want some lights that don't get stolen right off the bike as well (you can usually get some that fit right in your pocket after you've reached your destination) and some back-up lights.

    And, as many people have mentioned, go for a few practice rides before, and maybe ride your bike to your uni (so you know the route).

    In traffic, I generally try to be err on the side of caution, and I prefer to get off my bike and simply pull it across the pedestrian crossing if the traffic is crazy or if the biking conditions are tricky. After you've biked to and from your uni a couple of times, you'll be much more comfortable.

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  • HearthjawHearthjaw Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    So I'm doing a semester on exchange to CCA in Oakland, and my residence is about 2.5 miles from the campus.

    I can ride a bike, but I'm not particularly experienced. Mostly I don't fall down. I can't do the thing where you stand up while you ride, or anything fancy like that.

    Would it be complete madness to buy a cheap bike and ride to and from campus every day?

    Things to keep in mind:
    - I have never ridden on the road or anything before. To be honest, I've never ridden anywhere even remotely busy before.
    I've been riding a bike to work and back each day for the last year. Before then the only bike experience i had was less then 50m
    - my classes finish late at night, is it safe to cycle through oakland at night (I have two classes that finish at 10pm)?
    Depends entirely on how traffic and the roads are in the area, you'll have to to a bit of a recce first. Lights are a must and if you're going around heavy traffic a reflective vest is cheap and makes you very visible, it'd be a good idea to know any rules and regs that apply to bikes in your area. Wear a helmet, if nothing else, wear a bloody helmet.
    - I would like to do some exercise every day, and riding seems like a really good way to work it into my routine.
    - I guess I would need a backpack, since a messenger bag doesn't seem very bike friendly?
    My presonal preferance is but it really comes down to what you find more comfy
    - Are lycra biking clothes compulsory, or can I wear something else? What else should I wear?
    Hell no, I wear my work pants and an old tshirt with no worries, you've definitely got to take the smell factor into account though
    - I am only here until may, when I would have to offload the bike again.
    its usually not too hard to find and sell a decent cheap bike

    Thoughts? Tips?

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  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    1. Get a Helmet
    2. Get lights if you will be riding at night. Also I would avoid riding really busy streets at night - use the sidewalk or smaller streets with less traffic.
    3. Wear whatever the hell you want. You definitely don't need lycra shorts for a small commute like that.
    4. Get a bike from craigslist, when you're done sell it on craigslist.
    5. Messenger bags can work well, but they have to be able to fit on you pretty snug so it doesn't flop around. If you don't have one like that then a backpack is better.

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    2.5 miles is sufficiently short that there isn't really any particular special preparation or equipment that you need. As long as you're comfortable and ride safely, you'll be fine.

    Fitting lights for night (or even dusk) riding is a necessity, though, and make sure whatever you get has mudguards (I think they're called "fenders" in the US) if you're going to ride in the rain. If you buy a cheap bike there's a reasonable chance you'll end up with a mountain bike with knobbly tyres. You might want to swap them for slicks if you're only riding on the road. They require far less effort to keep roling.

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  • VeritasVRVeritasVR Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I had a bicycle for transportation to class/practice/work for two years. Some things not mentioned:

    - Be careful wearing baggy pants, because the will brush against the gears and get oil all over the bottom. Either use a reflective velcro band to keep them tight or don't wear baggy pants.

    - You are legally a vehicle, so you need to stay on the road next to the cars. That being said, I was hit by a car twice, fell once, and had several near misses. They were all relatively minor, but enough to reinforce personal safety.

    - I don't know how cold it gets in Oakland, but a poorly maintained/constructed bike will lose the ability to shift gears (or even brake) in weather below freezing. The better bikes might not go faster than the cheap Wal-Mart bikes, but you can definitely find important differences in their quality the more you ride them. That being said...

    - Locate a nearby bicycle repair store as soon as possible. Make friendly with the people there. You're going to need repairs from there if you don't know (or can't) do them yourself. Do simple upkeep maintenance as much as possible like lubrication and tire air pressure.

    - In terms of bicycles, there are many forumers who can help you with buying a specific type of bicycle. I had a street bike for the first year, but the wheels (and even frame!) were not sturdy enough to fit my all-weather/all-terrain city riding.

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    VeritasVR wrote: »
    - Be careful wearing baggy pants, because the will brush against the gears and get oil all over the bottom. Either use a reflective velcro band to keep them tight or don't wear baggy pants.

    You can also either roll up your right trouser cuff by a few cm or tuck it into your sock. I always end up losing the little velcro band things.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    2.5 miles is nothing. i used to bring pizzas home on my cruiser roughly that distance.

    you don't need to do anythign fancy. and any any bag will work. my grad school had the second highest population of cyclists and you should see the kind of shit people rode aroudn with. expect to have a rough first week, but eventually everyone gets used to it

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  • JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    how flat is it there?

    Depending on how flat it is you might be able to go with a single speed and cut down on weight. You are probably looking for a thin, fairly smooth tire bike. Those will go easier than a thick tired gripping mountain bike. If you aren't going mountain biking, don't get the mountain bike.

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  • MrOlettaMrOletta Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn29DvMITu4

    I know it's only 2.5miles, but I still wouldn't ever recommend anyone get a fixed gear bicycle. I know there are probably a lot of folks on here who would disagree, but why cripple yourself the extra gears? It's like getting a single speed car vs a 5 speed. Sure you'll save a little bit of weight, but it's not worth the utility (IMHO).

    Also regarding messenger bags, I would place my vote depending on how hilly the area is that you'll be riding. When I was commuting to work (20mi/day), there were some 18-20 gradient hills that would necessitate standing up on the bike to pedal through. The problem would be that even though the messenger bag was set to its tightest setting, it would still jostle around and even swing forward. This throws you off balance pretty significantly and almost caused me to spill multiple times (after the second time I thought it too dangerous and went back to using a regular backpack). Also to note, I had a Timbuk2 messenger bag.

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  • JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Fixed gear is different than single speed.

    plus, if it is flat, then you don't really need those extra gears.

    also, be willing to spend a few dollars if you don't want to hate your life. You can get a decent bike for 300$ at a bike shop, or a 100$ one and want to kill yourself by the end of the semester.

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  • saltinesssaltiness Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    tsmvengy wrote: »
    use the sidewalk

    No. I will clothesline your ass if I see you doing that. Bikes go on the road.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2010
    No, you ride the bikes on whatever you want because it's fucking suicide to ride in the street.

    As long as you are not blazing along at 20mph down the sidewalk you'll be just fine.

    Hell, I've seen cops tell people to get on the sidewalk for trying to ride bicycles down a busy street.

    Grow the hell up, it's not just your sidewalk.

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  • Enos316Enos316 Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Also, depending on the time of year, I would worry about working up a sweat on my way there, then sitting in class making a stink of myself.

    Maybe there is a way to use the shower facilities at the gym there?

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  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    saltiness wrote: »
    tsmvengy wrote: »
    use the sidewalk

    No. I will clothesline your ass if I see you doing that. Bikes go on the road.

    You can ride on the sidewalk as long as you ride safely.

    This means riding slower, yielding space and speed to pedestrians, etc.

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  • saltinesssaltiness Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    tsmvengy wrote: »
    saltiness wrote: »
    tsmvengy wrote: »
    use the sidewalk

    No. I will clothesline your ass if I see you doing that. Bikes go on the road.

    You can ride on the sidewalk as long as you ride safely.

    This means riding slower, yielding space and speed to pedestrians, etc.

    Maybe in DC but riding on the sidewalk is illegal in SF for adults and I'm guessing it is also illegal in Oakland.

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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    japan wrote: »
    2.5 miles is sufficiently short that there isn't really any particular special preparation or equipment that you need. As long as you're comfortable and ride safely, you'll be fine.

    2.5 miles is short enough that you could just walk and not bother with any of this, assuming you had the extra time.

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  • saltinesssaltiness Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Fats wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    2.5 miles is sufficiently short that there isn't really any particular special preparation or equipment that you need. As long as you're comfortable and ride safely, you'll be fine.

    2.5 miles is short enough that you could just walk and not bother with any of this, assuming you had the extra time.

    That's about 45 minutes of walking at normal speed. It'd take 10-15 minutes on a bike. I'd say it's worth it.

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  • OrestusOrestus Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I used to ride my bike to school in DC, I would ride on the sidewalk as the street seemed like absolute suicide, and I got plenty of abuse from pedestrians....I believe in the US, at least in most jurisdictions, a bike = a car in terms of vehicle laws, so you are supposed to be on the street.

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