If I decide to pre-order, gotta figure out what I'll do with the free copy. I've had BioShock for a while.
Trust me, if you post in either this or the Steam thread that you have a free copy of BioShock to give away, people will be more than happy to take it off your hands.
If I decide to pre-order, gotta figure out what I'll do with the free copy. I've had BioShock for a while.
Trust me, if you post in either this or the Steam thread that you have a free copy of BioShock to give away, people will be more than happy to take it off your hands.
I actually came in here to see if anyone was asking
Sander Cohen was certainly one of the most interesting characters in the game but his psychosis was kind of overshadowed by the setting of the game. Pretty much everyone in that city was as batshit insane as him making him look tamer relativity. If fort frolic had been a section of another game it would have been far more terrifying.
What were those statues anyway? Corpses covered in paper mache? I was creeped out the first time I hit one with a wrench and blood came out.
What were those statues anyway? Corpses covered in paper mache? I was creeped out the first time I hit one with a wrench and blood came out.
I'm gonna take that statement to mean you didn't see the part where they all come to life.
No I did not.
Just finished the first game and I'm glad I went with the "good" ending, I'm not sure the game would have made much sense anyway. I don't even know if I want to play the game the "bad" way.
I'd have liked Arcadia much more if it wasn't so excessively fetch quest oriented. The atmosphere is great, but the whole section dragged. Maybe if they had differentiated the Farmers Market section more it would have been ok, but as it was I felt it was the weakest level. Opinions etc.
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DunxcoShould get a suitNever skips breakfastRegistered Userregular
edited January 2010
As much as I love Fort Frolic, I think my favourite area was Hephaestus. When you see those rows of bodies stuck on the walls, and Ryan taunting you through the radio, I shuddered. Plus it has a load of diaries by Bill McDonagh, who I found a really interesting character in the whole thing. He never made it personal, and in the end, Ryan couldn't seperate himself from the city - killing one would kill the other in his eyes. So sadly, Bill had to go.
"Can you hear me, Atlas? Andrew Ryan offers you nothing. But. Ashes!"
I still don't fully understand Ryans death. He was in control of the player so why did he order you to kill him? Was it just some final act of defiance to show he could die on his own terms?
I still don't fully understand Ryans death. He was in control of the player so why did he order you to kill him? Was it just some final act of defiance to show he could die on his own terms?
Pretty much, its more or less the theme of the entire game
Just gonna pop in here and say, if anyone has a Bioshock 1 to gift... I'll be happy to take it off their hands.
So excited for Bioshock 2 as well, my friends have some doubt in it, but... I think it will be great. Silly gooses and their doubting. It looks very promising, just need to decide if I'm gonna grab the CE or not...
I still don't fully understand Ryans death. He was in control of the player so why did he order you to kill him? Was it just some final act of defiance to show he could die on his own terms?
Pretty much, its more or less the theme of the entire game
A man chooses. A slave obeys.
It just seemed out of character for a guy who had spent the whole time up to that point saying "I will prevail, you cannot beat me or break my spirit".
All that build up presenting him as an unbreakable, iron willed genius then you meet him and he lays down in front of you and dies just because you managed to unlock the door to his office.
It would have been more in character if he had said "would you kindly put your pistol in your mouth and pull the trigger". Even if he had killed himself afterwards it would still have been demonstrating his superiority.
It just seemed out of character for a guy who had spent the whole time up to that point saying "I will prevail, you cannot beat me or break my spirit".
All that build up presenting him as an unbreakable, iron willed genius then you meet him and he lays down in front of you and dies just because you managed to unlock the door to his office.
It would have been more in character if he had said "would you kindly put your pistol in your mouth and pull the trigger". Even if he had killed himself afterwards it would still have been demonstrating his superiority.
You're forgetting a specific aspect of that situation.
You're not just killing Ryan to demonstrate his principle of free will, you're his son doing so. He's giving his blood one last chance to prove the power of will, and either he has chosen his own manner of death, or you choose to overcome the mind control. Obviously only the first is possible, but to Ryan the choice is there, and either way it proves him right.
It just seemed out of character for a guy who had spent the whole time up to that point saying "I will prevail, you cannot beat me or break my spirit".
All that build up presenting him as an unbreakable, iron willed genius then you meet him and he lays down in front of you and dies just because you managed to unlock the door to his office.
It would have been more in character if he had said "would you kindly put your pistol in your mouth and pull the trigger". Even if he had killed himself afterwards it would still have been demonstrating his superiority.
You're forgetting a specific aspect of that situation.
You're not just killing Ryan to demonstrate his principle of free will, you're his son doing so. He's giving his blood one last chance to prove the power of will, and either he has chosen his own manner of death, or you choose to overcome the mind control. Obviously only the first is possible, but to Ryan the choice is there, and either way it proves him right.
Ahh I see so the main character was Ryans son?
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It just seemed out of character for a guy who had spent the whole time up to that point saying "I will prevail, you cannot beat me or break my spirit".
All that build up presenting him as an unbreakable, iron willed genius then you meet him and he lays down in front of you and dies just because you managed to unlock the door to his office.
It would have been more in character if he had said "would you kindly put your pistol in your mouth and pull the trigger". Even if he had killed himself afterwards it would still have been demonstrating his superiority.
You're forgetting a specific aspect of that situation.
You're not just killing Ryan to demonstrate his principle of free will, you're his son doing so. He's giving his blood one last chance to prove the power of will, and either he has chosen his own manner of death, or you choose to overcome the mind control. Obviously only the first is possible, but to Ryan the choice is there, and either way it proves him right.
Ahh I see so the main character was Ryans son?
Jack (the player) was genetically created from Anna Culpepper (one of the strippers in FF, I think that was her) and Ryan's DNA. Frank tricked Anna into getting pregnant/sleeping with Ryan to get his DNA. When Ryan found out, he killed Anna. Then Frank, Tenebaum, and Suchong created the player, programmed him to come back, and set him loose.
It just seemed out of character for a guy who had spent the whole time up to that point saying "I will prevail, you cannot beat me or break my spirit".
All that build up presenting him as an unbreakable, iron willed genius then you meet him and he lays down in front of you and dies just because you managed to unlock the door to his office.
It would have been more in character if he had said "would you kindly put your pistol in your mouth and pull the trigger". Even if he had killed himself afterwards it would still have been demonstrating his superiority.
You're forgetting a specific aspect of that situation.
You're not just killing Ryan to demonstrate his principle of free will, you're his son doing so. He's giving his blood one last chance to prove the power of will, and either he has chosen his own manner of death, or you choose to overcome the mind control. Obviously only the first is possible, but to Ryan the choice is there, and either way it proves him right.
Ahh I see so the main character was Ryans son?
Jack (the player) was genetically created from Anna Culpepper (one of the strippers in FF, I think that was her) and Ryan's DNA. Frank trucked Anna into getting pregnant/sleeping with Ryan to get his DNA. Then Frank, Tenebaum, and Suchong created the player, programmed him to come back, and set him loose.
Yeah I heard those tapes and suspected that but I missed a few along the way no doubt so I wasn't certain.
I liked the first game, figured I'd pick up the sequel someday when it was sub $30 in a few months. But damn Steam, always taking my money. Got in on a 4-pack last week, couldn't resist.
This is the digital distribution I'd like to see. Pre-ordering games for $35 instead of $50, since there's no shipping, packing, disc burning, etc. I'd never buy another disc again if I could get everything for that cheap. And I'd play a lot more on release day instead of being such a CAG.
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It just seemed out of character for a guy who had spent the whole time up to that point saying "I will prevail, you cannot beat me or break my spirit".
All that build up presenting him as an unbreakable, iron willed genius then you meet him and he lays down in front of you and dies just because you managed to unlock the door to his office.
It would have been more in character if he had said "would you kindly put your pistol in your mouth and pull the trigger". Even if he had killed himself afterwards it would still have been demonstrating his superiority.
You're forgetting a specific aspect of that situation.
You're not just killing Ryan to demonstrate his principle of free will, you're his son doing so. He's giving his blood one last chance to prove the power of will, and either he has chosen his own manner of death, or you choose to overcome the mind control. Obviously only the first is possible, but to Ryan the choice is there, and either way it proves him right.
Ahh I see so the main character was Ryans son?
Jack (the player) was genetically created from Anna Culpepper (one of the strippers in FF, I think that was her) and Ryan's DNA. Frank trucked Anna into getting pregnant/sleeping with Ryan to get his DNA. Then Frank, Tenebaum, and Suchong created the player, programmed him to come back, and set him loose.
Yeah I heard those tapes and suspected that but I missed a few along the way no doubt so I wasn't certain.
Anna Culpepper was actual Sander Cohen's rival. The stripper who is Jack's mother is Jasmine Jolene.
I should really play this game some day. I remember playing part of it at a friend's house.
Go for it, I was in exactly the same position until I preordered bioshock 2 and got the first one free. It's a rare example of a very imaginative game.
I should really play this game some day. I remember playing part of it at a friend's house.
Go for it, I was in exactly the same position until I preordered bioshock 2 and got the first one free. It's a rare example of a very imaginative game.
Though be warned. Some people expect the gameplay itself to be some revolutionary thing. It's good, just not new.
It's the world you explore and learn about that is absolutly hands down awesome.
I should really play this game some day. I remember playing part of it at a friend's house.
Go for it, I was in exactly the same position until I preordered bioshock 2 and got the first one free. It's a rare example of a very imaginative game.
Though be warned. Some people expect the gameplay itself to be some revolutionary thing. It's good, just not new.
It's the world you explore and learn about that is absolutly hands down awesome.
It's true as a shooter it was nothing revolutionary. But I didn't really play it like a game, I put it on easy and nailed through the whole thing in two sittings just to get the story.
I should really play this game some day. I remember playing part of it at a friend's house.
Go for it, I was in exactly the same position until I preordered bioshock 2 and got the first one free. It's a rare example of a very imaginative game.
Though be warned. Some people expect the gameplay itself to be some revolutionary thing. It's good, just not new.
It's the world you explore and learn about that is absolutly hands down awesome.
It's true as a shooter it was nothing revolutionary. But I didn't really play it like a game, I put it on easy and nailed through the whole thing in two sittings just to get the story.
Yea, I'd start with medium. I found it to be the most fun. You still get to see the world, and the combat is still fun without being obsceenly difficult.
Real men play it on hard. With Vita-chambers turned off. :P
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surrealitychecklonely, but not unloveddreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered Userregular
edited January 2010
Bioshock 1 was one of the more disappointing games I've played. The setting was cool, the story was ok until it ground to a halt after the BIG TWIST, and the shooting mechanics were mostly a bit meh.
It would have been infinitely more awesome if they had removed guns entirely and simply made more plasmids - a physics-based magic game would be SWEET.
It just seemed out of character for a guy who had spent the whole time up to that point saying "I will prevail, you cannot beat me or break my spirit".
All that build up presenting him as an unbreakable, iron willed genius then you meet him and he lays down in front of you and dies just because you managed to unlock the door to his office.
It would have been more in character if he had said "would you kindly put your pistol in your mouth and pull the trigger". Even if he had killed himself afterwards it would still have been demonstrating his superiority.
You're forgetting a specific aspect of that situation.
You're not just killing Ryan to demonstrate his principle of free will, you're his son doing so. He's giving his blood one last chance to prove the power of will, and either he has chosen his own manner of death, or you choose to overcome the mind control. Obviously only the first is possible, but to Ryan the choice is there, and either way it proves him right.
Ahh I see so the main character was Ryans son?
Jack (the player) was genetically created from Anna Culpepper (one of the strippers in FF, I think that was her) and Ryan's DNA. Frank trucked Anna into getting pregnant/sleeping with Ryan to get his DNA. Then Frank, Tenebaum, and Suchong created the player, programmed him to come back, and set him loose.
Yeah I heard those tapes and suspected that but I missed a few along the way no doubt so I wasn't certain.
Anna Culpepper was actual Sander Cohen's rival. The stripper who is Jack's mother is Jasmine Jolene.
I know, I'm pretty amazing. Only got two copies of Bioshock to gift considering I already own it though...
If you mean that you only got 2 gift copies of BioShock 1 with your 4-pack, I'd suggest emailing Steam support, since the same thing happened to me and they fixed it quite quickly.
If you mean that after giving away 2 copies you only have 2 copies left, then never mind.
I know, I'm pretty amazing. Only got two copies of Bioshock to gift considering I already own it though...
If you mean that you only got 2 gift copies of BioShock 1 with your 4-pack, I'd suggest emailing Steam support, since the same thing happened to me and they fixed it quite quickly.
If you mean that after giving away 2 copies you only have 2 copies left, then never mind.
Yeah I had to email steam support as well for the same thing and they were really quick resolving it.
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Trust me, if you post in either this or the Steam thread that you have a free copy of BioShock to give away, people will be more than happy to take it off your hands.
A domino effect of awesome.
I actually came in here to see if anyone was asking
Then you need your head checked out o_O:P
What did you like more, if not Fort Frolic?
fort frolic was the apex
What were those statues anyway? Corpses covered in paper mache? I was creeped out the first time I hit one with a wrench and blood came out.
I'm gonna take that statement to mean you didn't see the part where they all come to life.
Which is what makes FF the best level in the game.
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there are lots of the statues are just folks wraped in mache. the ones that come to life just camo themselves that way
No I did not.
Just finished the first game and I'm glad I went with the "good" ending, I'm not sure the game would have made much sense anyway. I don't even know if I want to play the game the "bad" way.
If I had to pick a particular section, it would be the area where you have to nullify the poison on the trees
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"Can you hear me, Atlas? Andrew Ryan offers you nothing. But. Ashes!"
Pretty much, its more or less the theme of the entire game
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So excited for Bioshock 2 as well, my friends have some doubt in it, but... I think it will be great. Silly gooses and their doubting. It looks very promising, just need to decide if I'm gonna grab the CE or not...
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All that build up presenting him as an unbreakable, iron willed genius then you meet him and he lays down in front of you and dies just because you managed to unlock the door to his office.
It would have been more in character if he had said "would you kindly put your pistol in your mouth and pull the trigger". Even if he had killed himself afterwards it would still have been demonstrating his superiority.
You're forgetting a specific aspect of that situation.
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Yeah I heard those tapes and suspected that but I missed a few along the way no doubt so I wasn't certain.
This is the digital distribution I'd like to see. Pre-ordering games for $35 instead of $50, since there's no shipping, packing, disc burning, etc. I'd never buy another disc again if I could get everything for that cheap. And I'd play a lot more on release day instead of being such a CAG.
I can't wait to see all the new parts of rapture. it's gonna be frikin sweet
Go for it, I was in exactly the same position until I preordered bioshock 2 and got the first one free. It's a rare example of a very imaginative game.
Though be warned. Some people expect the gameplay itself to be some revolutionary thing. It's good, just not new.
It's the world you explore and learn about that is absolutly hands down awesome.
It's true as a shooter it was nothing revolutionary. But I didn't really play it like a game, I put it on easy and nailed through the whole thing in two sittings just to get the story.
Yea, I'd start with medium. I found it to be the most fun. You still get to see the world, and the combat is still fun without being obsceenly difficult.
It would have been infinitely more awesome if they had removed guns entirely and simply made more plasmids - a physics-based magic game would be SWEET.
Then real men must waste an awful lot of time constantly saving and reloading their game. :P
That's her. All them dames look alike, yous know?
If you mean that you only got 2 gift copies of BioShock 1 with your 4-pack, I'd suggest emailing Steam support, since the same thing happened to me and they fixed it quite quickly.
If you mean that after giving away 2 copies you only have 2 copies left, then never mind.
Yeah I had to email steam support as well for the same thing and they were really quick resolving it.