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Annoying dwelling purchase

bluefoxicybluefoxicy Registered User regular
edited January 2010 in Social Entropy++
Fuck shit fuck fuck ass fuck faggotry damnit.

Trying to buy a house.

It's fucking hard.

Need like $178000 ugh... need 3.5% down payment to even get a loan, and then there's ass huge closing costs and I need to convince the seller to give me 6% of the equity to cover that (i.e. I get a loan for a $178k house, but they give me the house for $165k and some $13k goes to closing costs).

And then there's oh god mortgage and PMI and escrow for taxes

It's going to cost me $900/mo, I pay $800/mo for my rent.

No wait.

$900/mo + $200/mo taxes + however much PMI maybe $1200/mo fuck and the real estate agent is going to try to convince me it's just about $1000/mo let's not talk about all these other things I have to pay.

Extra money is going to my stupidity-- I mean my car payment. Not kidding. Paying my mortgage off faster is the single biggest financial advantage I'll ever get-- so I'll kill my $500/mo car payment early and then throw $500/mo more at my mortgage. What idiot takes out a loan to buy a car?

Oh taxes.

Some ... fucking... $8000 of interest the first year right? So maybe the fed gives me $2000 back in taxes. Goes to my car loan, no kidding. That $8000 tax refund also goes to my car loan. I should be clear of that next January.

My brain is melting down augh.

Maybe I should get a room mate. I know a girl that would room with me but her boyfriend would have issues with this. Her boyfriend would correctly have issues with this. We could get her an extra bed and her own room for a cover but it wouldn't fool anyone, hell he's not fooled as it is.

People call me Wood Man, 'cause I always got wood.
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  • FutoreFutore Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    haha just kidding. the middle class is dying, you'll be renting forever.

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  • a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Dude, chill out. If you don't want to do it (or can't afford it), then don't.

    Not even gonna touch that last part since it isn't H/A :P

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  • edited January 2010
    maybe if you're so close to the wire financially, this is a stupid time for you to buy a house.

    also in 5 years when it comes time to renegotiate your mortgage and the interest rates have gone back up, you will be in even worse shape

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  • AirAir Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    my mother paid off this house and moved to india so i just collect rent from a couple of people living in my house while i also live in my own house with little expenses or complications

    plus cars are all paid off and now i got plenty of cash to cover registration and insurance
    i just rock up with a bundle of cash and peel off a few gs no sweat

    pretty sweet deal you should try to set your shit up like this
    and then you can stop whining

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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited January 2010

    "Really want to make some breakfast but cleaner is still doing kitchen"

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    air you really have a ridiculously good deal there

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  • FutoreFutore Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
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  • CrackedLensCrackedLens Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    if you're still in negotiations, try to get the sellers to cover the closing cost

    it worked for us

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  • MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    you know, the poorer you are the easier it is to get a home

    i mean, if you have no money at all you can just make a lean-to out of cardboard boxes!

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  • FutoreFutore Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Futore wrote: »

    a....another shaq movie

    how was i not informed

    OH M GOD YOU HAVE NOT SEEN STEEL??? YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE LOOK AT THOSE PRODUCTION PHOTOS!!!

    seriously. not even joking. love that movie

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  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    WAIT
    how ugly is this girl

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  • bluefoxicybluefoxicy Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    maybe if you're so close to the wire financially, this is a stupid time for you to buy a house.

    also in 5 years when it comes time to renegotiate your mortgage and the interest rates have gone back up, you will be in even worse shape

    My approved loan is for 4.875% fixed 30 year. Why reneg?

    If I stop spending $500/mo to eat out every single day and $300/mo to buy expensive shaving gear and $200/mo on sheet music books from SquareSound, I'd have $1500/mo cash on hand just lying around as is. Plus my $800/mo paid into my rent falls off, so a $1200/mo payment means I need ... $400/mo more than I do now.

    It doesn't make shit any less annoying.

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  • bluefoxicybluefoxicy Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    if you're still in negotiations, try to get the sellers to cover the closing cost

    it worked for us

    That's what I'm trying to do.

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  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    3.5% down?

    I wouldn't feel comfortable putting that little down. That's like a loan that will turn around and rape you.

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  • FutoreFutore Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    oh, btw everybody, Shaq got EP credit for that movie.

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  • edited January 2010
    bluefoxicy wrote: »
    maybe if you're so close to the wire financially, this is a stupid time for you to buy a house.

    also in 5 years when it comes time to renegotiate your mortgage and the interest rates have gone back up, you will be in even worse shape

    My approved loan is for 4.875% fixed 30 year. Why reneg?

    If I stop spending $500/mo to eat out every single day and $300/mo to buy expensive shaving gear and $200/mo on sheet music books from SquareSound, I'd have $1500/mo cash on hand just lying around as is. Plus my $800/mo paid into my rent falls off, so a $1200/mo payment means I need ... $400/mo more than I do now.

    It doesn't make shit any less annoying.

    because every 5 years you have to renegotiate your mortgage. that is how it works. your amortization is 30 years. that doesn't mean your bank is going to let you have 4.875% for 30 years.

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  • CrackedLensCrackedLens Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    speaking of which i really need to go refinance the mortgage before the stupid economy gets better and the rates go back up

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited January 2010
    Hunter wrote: »
    3.5% down?

    I wouldn't feel comfortable putting that little down. That's like a loan that will turn around and rape you.

    Seriously.

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  • TheidarTheidar Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    bluefoxicy wrote: »
    maybe if you're so close to the wire financially, this is a stupid time for you to buy a house.

    also in 5 years when it comes time to renegotiate your mortgage and the interest rates have gone back up, you will be in even worse shape

    My approved loan is for 4.875% fixed 30 year. Why reneg?

    If I stop spending $500/mo to eat out every single day and $300/mo to buy expensive shaving gear and $200/mo on sheet music books from SquareSound, I'd have $1500/mo cash on hand just lying around as is. Plus my $800/mo paid into my rent falls off, so a $1200/mo payment means I need ... $400/mo more than I do now.

    It doesn't make shit any less annoying.

    because every 5 years you have to renegotiate your mortgage. that is how it works. your amortization is 30 years. that doesn't mean your bank is going to let you have 4.875% for 30 years.

    Didn't he just said it was a fixed rate mortgage?

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  • bluefoxicybluefoxicy Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Air wrote: »
    my mother paid off this house and moved to india so i just collect rent from a couple of people living in my house while i also live in my own house with little expenses or complications

    plus cars are all paid off and now i got plenty of cash to cover registration and insurance
    i just rock up with a bundle of cash and peel off a few gs no sweat

    pretty sweet deal you should try to set your shit up like this
    and then you can stop whining

    No fucking kidding. Once I pay my car loan off I should be able to hammer my mortgage pretty hard, if I spend responsibly. I could even have some wiggle room to sink money into a cheap race car (MX-5 Miata to Spec Miata or STS2 specs... probably STS2 for now). This place has a garage, I specifically inspected it because I want a place to work on cars.

    And no more car loans. I'll shift money aside into a separate savings account based on a decent car payment (say $350/mo) and in 3-5 years have enough to just flat out buy a car I want. I'll semi-daily the racer (it'll be street legal, street safe, low fuel consumption) to shift maintenance needs off my practical daily (i.e. the 5 seater); if the racer is down, I can get to it later.

    You sir have won life.

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  • CrackedLensCrackedLens Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    robothero wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    3.5% down?

    I wouldn't feel comfortable putting that little down. That's like a loan that will turn around and rape you.

    Seriously.

    i think the math is if you put even as much as 6% down then it will cut a good chunk of your payments

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  • edited January 2010
    robothero wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    3.5% down?

    I wouldn't feel comfortable putting that little down. That's like a loan that will turn around and rape you.

    Seriously.

    I wonder if he knows how much money he's throwing away in interest. He will effectively pay for the house twice over the 30 years. Maybe more than 2x.

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  • TheidarTheidar Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    robothero wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    3.5% down?

    I wouldn't feel comfortable putting that little down. That's like a loan that will turn around and rape you.

    Seriously.

    Yeah I'd want at least 10% down preferable 20%, also gets you out of that PMI bullshit.

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited January 2010
    bluefoxicy wrote: »
    I'll shift money aside into a separate savings account based on a decent car payment (say $350/mo) and in 3-5 years have enough to just flat out buy a car I want.

    ahahahahaha

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited January 2010
    I'm putting 22% down on my house, closing costs are just over 9k.

    As soon as I sign the paperwork the house is worth 30k more than what I am buying it for.

    Feels good man 8-)

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  • edited January 2010
    Theidar wrote: »
    bluefoxicy wrote: »
    maybe if you're so close to the wire financially, this is a stupid time for you to buy a house.

    also in 5 years when it comes time to renegotiate your mortgage and the interest rates have gone back up, you will be in even worse shape

    My approved loan is for 4.875% fixed 30 year. Why reneg?

    If I stop spending $500/mo to eat out every single day and $300/mo to buy expensive shaving gear and $200/mo on sheet music books from SquareSound, I'd have $1500/mo cash on hand just lying around as is. Plus my $800/mo paid into my rent falls off, so a $1200/mo payment means I need ... $400/mo more than I do now.

    It doesn't make shit any less annoying.

    because every 5 years you have to renegotiate your mortgage. that is how it works. your amortization is 30 years. that doesn't mean your bank is going to let you have 4.875% for 30 years.

    Didn't he just said it was a fixed rate mortgage?

    No bank that I know of gives more than a 10 year term on a fixed rate. The term of a mortgage is how long until you have to renegotiate. The amortization (30 years in this case) is how long they average the payments out for.

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited January 2010
    also 4.25% 5/1 IO ARM :)

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  • TheidarTheidar Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Theidar wrote: »
    bluefoxicy wrote: »
    maybe if you're so close to the wire financially, this is a stupid time for you to buy a house.

    also in 5 years when it comes time to renegotiate your mortgage and the interest rates have gone back up, you will be in even worse shape

    My approved loan is for 4.875% fixed 30 year. Why reneg?

    If I stop spending $500/mo to eat out every single day and $300/mo to buy expensive shaving gear and $200/mo on sheet music books from SquareSound, I'd have $1500/mo cash on hand just lying around as is. Plus my $800/mo paid into my rent falls off, so a $1200/mo payment means I need ... $400/mo more than I do now.

    It doesn't make shit any less annoying.

    because every 5 years you have to renegotiate your mortgage. that is how it works. your amortization is 30 years. that doesn't mean your bank is going to let you have 4.875% for 30 years.

    Didn't he just said it was a fixed rate mortgage?

    No bank that I know of gives more than a 10 year term on a fixed rate. The term of a mortgage is how long until you have to renegotiate. The amortization (30 years in this case) is how long they average the payments out for.

    I have a 30 year fixed rate mortgage from Bank of America, and there were plenty of other banks offering me the same when I bought my house.

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  • HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Theidar wrote: »
    robothero wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    3.5% down?

    I wouldn't feel comfortable putting that little down. That's like a loan that will turn around and rape you.

    Seriously.

    Yeah I'd want at least 10% down preferable 20%, also gets you out of that PMI bullshit.

    At least 10% down to feel comfortable and have some base equity.

    PMI is fucking garbage too. Do anything possible to avoid that shitty waste of money. Even if you do one of those 80-20 loans and refinance a year or two later (once any pre-payment penalty terms expire). I'd rather pay slightly more interest on 20% of my loan for 1 or 2 years then PMI for 5 to 10 years.

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  • KrentzKrentz Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    bluefoxicy wrote: »
    If I stop spending $500/mo to eat out every single day

    Do NOT count on having this money to use. You will still spend a good portion of it even if you managed to eat at home every meal of every day. Chances are you will be back to fast food and restaurants once you get comfortable again anyway. I thought the same thing when I bought a house.
    bluefoxicy wrote: »
    and $300/mo to buy expensive shaving gear

    Also you're a fag.

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  • edited January 2010
    Theidar wrote: »
    Theidar wrote: »
    bluefoxicy wrote: »
    maybe if you're so close to the wire financially, this is a stupid time for you to buy a house.

    also in 5 years when it comes time to renegotiate your mortgage and the interest rates have gone back up, you will be in even worse shape

    My approved loan is for 4.875% fixed 30 year. Why reneg?

    If I stop spending $500/mo to eat out every single day and $300/mo to buy expensive shaving gear and $200/mo on sheet music books from SquareSound, I'd have $1500/mo cash on hand just lying around as is. Plus my $800/mo paid into my rent falls off, so a $1200/mo payment means I need ... $400/mo more than I do now.

    It doesn't make shit any less annoying.

    because every 5 years you have to renegotiate your mortgage. that is how it works. your amortization is 30 years. that doesn't mean your bank is going to let you have 4.875% for 30 years.

    Didn't he just said it was a fixed rate mortgage?

    No bank that I know of gives more than a 10 year term on a fixed rate. The term of a mortgage is how long until you have to renegotiate. The amortization (30 years in this case) is how long they average the payments out for.

    I have a 30 year fixed rate mortgage from Bank of America, and there were plenty of other banks offering me the same when I bought my house.

    Neat. It's a Canada/US difference thing, I guess. Canadian banks do up to 10 year terms and up to 30 year amortizations. What's your interest rate, approximately?

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited January 2010
    I spend like 5$ every other month on nivea shaving cream its pretty great

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  • SporkAndrewSporkAndrew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2010
    Whoa, over here in the UK you'll be refused a mortgage if you have less than 10% to put down up front. I guess it makes it kind of a good barrier for entry - if you can set aside enough to have ~£15k then you're fiscally responsible enough to commit to paying £600/ month for the next 30 years.

    3.5% is a massively low amount.

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  • edited January 2010
    Whoa, over here in the UK you'll be refused a mortgage if you have less than 10% to put down up front. I guess it makes it kind of a good barrier for entry - if you can set aside enough to have ~£15k then you're fiscally responsible enough to commit to paying £600/ month for the next 30 years.

    3.5% is a massively low amount.

    Canada has similar guidelines. 5% is the least required minimum and if you're under either 20 or 25% you have to pay mortgage insurance on it.

    Oddly, our banking system is not in the crapper as a result of these policies.

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    that's socialism for you

    free market fixes everything duh

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  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    guys it's okay
    it's not as if there was a financial crisis with the US banking system

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