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I have an old desktop HD (got it in the early 00s) off which I recently grabbed all my important old music, pictures, Word files, AMVs, hentai, etc., and as I understand it, my options for safely disposing of it are either to completely wipe the hard drive with DBAN or other measures, or physically destroy it.
My bf is all for selling it, but I'm all for wrecking the shit out of something for Science (and identity protection). But, I don't want to hurt someone attempting to set it on fire, or get shards of plastic everywhere by dropping it off a balcony or taking a sledgehammer to it. Is a huge magnet the way to go? How huge? Would I just kinda rub it all over the metal inside the casing and call it a day, or what?
DBAN and other wipes are all well and good, but I'd rather (safely) destroy the damn thing and salvage whatever parts someone else might buy or find useful. I just dunno where to start.
My computer tech professor once killed a hard drive by
A : Removing the platters
B : Running the platters through a degausser
C : Rubbing the degaussed platters with coarse steel wool
D : Smashing the steel wooled, degaussed platters with a sledgehammer.
That's pretty much what you have to do to get total data destruction. But if you're just interested in smashing them, then remove the platters, but save the magnetic bearings and the really strong magnets in there.
Cause the spinny bearing's fun to play with, ditto with the powerful magnets.
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edited January 2010
Are you really worried about someone digging up your old AMVs on a hard drive you sell them? DBAN is more than sufficient unless there's something on the drive implicating you of a felony.
Apparently the Secure Erase command built into newer hard drives is the only way to truly wipe a drive without physical destruction. However it's also a pain to execute, with most motherboards locking out such a diabolical command.
DBAN is fine unless someone is really out to get you. I.e. Grissom and the Las Vegas Crime Lab.
But seriously, recreate the Office Space scene or ask a chem lab TA for an in class demonstration of acid corrosion.
I did keep bank stuff on there when I was young and stupid, not just mah precious animes--I'm not going to argue whether it's worth bothering to wipe/destroy the hard drive; I'mma destroy it. Probably not with thermite, though. o_O
You can always take it apart and sand the magnetic elements off (as in, use sandpaper and elbow grease). If you can heat it up to 1300 K or so you can also totally destroy it that way as you'll get past the Curie point for the magnetic elements (and may in fact melt the platters). Smashing the platters into a lot of pieces (the more the better) also works, although it is possible to recover data by physically reassembling the drive if you're really obsessed.
We're talking contains-vital-information-from-the-future levels of obsession, though. Are you a time-traveler by any chance?
This is all very excessive... by all means, if you feel like destroying something, go ahead. If you'd rather keep or sell the drive though, a single pass of zeros with DBAN would be more than sufficient. I challenge you to find someone who has ever recovered any usable data after such a process.
Ah, we made some in a high school science class here in Florida. That was only about eight years ago
I figured something like that would be federally regulated. Strangely enough Google seems to add results for termites in search results for state laws.
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Yeah, they throw that stuff around like sweeties at a pantomime on some TV shows like Brainiac in the UK. It can't be that illegal. Permit required perhaps?
FYI destroying a hard drive with a sledge hammer is FUCKING DIFFICULT. Unless you're the hulk or something I wouldn't even bother with that option. I went bat shit on mine for 15 minutes with a sledge hammer and all I did was dent the fucking case.
Seriously what the hell do they make those things out of? It's like a black box or something.
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FYI destroying a hard drive with a sledge hammer is FUCKING DIFFICULT. Unless you're the hulk or something I wouldn't even bother with that option. I went bat shit on mine for 15 minutes with a sledge hammer and all I did was dent the fucking case.
Seriously what the hell do they make those things out of? It's like a black box or something.
you really should take the case off first and then pound the platters themselves.
Take it out shooting, they would make a nice plinking target.. Keep some distance though for ricochets,
Drop it in the ocean!.. im sure some salt water would take care of it in no time.
Yeah, because what the ocean needs right now is *more* trash.
And the shooting idea is just as bad. I've seen plenty of computers, hard drives, etc. blasted to bits and left to sit in the forest. It pisses me off like you can't imagine. Some people just have no respect.
Professional data recovery people can get data off pretty much anything. Stuff like six-inch spikes driven through the platters.
But unless the fed is coming for your secrets, you should be safe with a pass of DBAN, then destroying the contacts on the back of the disk with whatever's close to hand. If you're still worried that people are going to look at your stuff, toss the fucker in the ocean.
FYI destroying a hard drive with a sledge hammer is FUCKING DIFFICULT. Unless you're the hulk or something I wouldn't even bother with that option. I went bat shit on mine for 15 minutes with a sledge hammer and all I did was dent the fucking case.
Seriously what the hell do they make those things out of? It's like a black box or something.
you really should take the case off first and then pound the platters themselves.
I tried, got all the screws out except one which was stuck in there so hard the screwdriver stripped the screw head. That thing was really built.
When the nuclear war comes there will only be cockroaches and hard drives left.
Take it out shooting, they would make a nice plinking target.. Keep some distance though for ricochets,
Drop it in the ocean!.. im sure some salt water would take care of it in no time.
Yeah, because what the ocean needs right now is *more* trash.
And the shooting idea is just as bad. I've seen plenty of computers, hard drives, etc. blasted to bits and left to sit in the forest. It pisses me off like you can't imagine. Some people just have no respect.
Or ya know, you could not assume everybody doesn't pick up thier trash, because a few don't. It bugs me too! As far as the ocean is concerned, yeah that is a pretty terrible idea, but it could join its friends in the Great Pacific Garbage Patch, you don't want it to be lonley, do you?
FYI destroying a hard drive with a sledge hammer is FUCKING DIFFICULT. Unless you're the hulk or something I wouldn't even bother with that option. I went bat shit on mine for 15 minutes with a sledge hammer and all I did was dent the fucking case.
Seriously what the hell do they make those things out of? It's like a black box or something.
you really should take the case off first and then pound the platters themselves.
I tried, got all the screws out except one which was stuck in there so hard the screwdriver stripped the screw head. That thing was really built.
When the nuclear war comes there will only be cockroaches and hard drives left.
dremel tool would work, too, i guess. or a drill press.
Yeah, I'm more out for the fun of smashing shit up than the security of knowing my data's safe. (That'd be nice, too. But mostly property damage. Whoo?)
This IS Texas, but I have nowhere to safely shoot the HD to pieces.
No. I was never into Inuyasha to the tune of an unfinished 300,000-word fic. The fuck is your problem, accusing people of random shit like that? :P
(I'd actually forgotten about that. Now I really have to fuck up this hard drive. God only knows what'd happen if the terrorists got ahold of all those synonyms for hanyou dong.)
Yeah, I'm more out for the fun of smashing shit up than the security of knowing my data's safe. (That'd be nice, too. But mostly property damage. Whoo?)
This IS Texas, but I have nowhere to safely shoot the HD to pieces.
No. I was never into Inuyasha to the tune of an unfinished 300,000-word fic. The fuck is your problem, accusing people of random shit like that? :P
(I'd actually forgotten about that. Now I really have to fuck up this hard drive. God only knows what'd happen if the terrorists got ahold of all those synonyms for hanyou dong.)
Remember what I said about Thermite? Just ignore it.
That should cover you. If you are really paranoid you can take it to a company that specializes in data destruction that will degauss the platters and then PROPERLY destroy and dispose of them.
Also you should never burn any type of electronics (ie. with themate or the like). This can release highly toxic fumes into the air which can cause serious health problems (not to even mention ecological impacts).
Also you should never burn any type of electronics (ie. with themate or the like). This can release highly toxic fumes into the air which can cause serious health problems (not to even mention ecological impacts).
This is something I was wondering about, but forgot to ask specifically. Also, the only safe places to burn stuff around here are public, so I don't particularly want to leave smoking bits of plastic where animals could sniff out remnants and eat them and spontaneously combust or something.
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That should cover you. If you are really paranoid you can take it to a company that specializes in data destruction that will degauss the platters and then PROPERLY destroy and dispose of them.
Also you should never burn any type of electronics (ie. with themate or the like). This can release highly toxic fumes into the air which can cause serious health problems (not to even mention ecological impacts).
I usually just pound a philips head screwdriver though it, where I know it'll go through the platters. Most of the fun of hitting stuff with a hammer and the sound of breaking things but without the mess.
(unless I want shiny, jangly rings and super magnets for something)
Professional data recovery people can get data off pretty much anything. Stuff like six-inch spikes driven through the platters.
But unless the fed is coming for your secrets, you should be safe with a pass of DBAN, then destroying the contacts on the back of the disk with whatever's close to hand. If you're still worried that people are going to look at your stuff, toss the fucker in the ocean.
My professor did add the caveat to his hard drive destruction mess: "And even then, if you had the money, you could get data recovered." :P
But yes, if you're really really worried about data being recovered, get it done right by professionals.
If not, just take it apart with torx bits, and keep the parts because they're pretty fun the play with.
Professional data recovery people can get data off pretty much anything. Stuff like six-inch spikes driven through the platters.
But unless the fed is coming for your secrets, you should be safe with a pass of DBAN, then destroying the contacts on the back of the disk with whatever's close to hand. If you're still worried that people are going to look at your stuff, toss the fucker in the ocean.
Actually there has been a $100k prize for a while now for people to recover any real amounts of data after a single pass of zero's last i checked it has yet to be claimed. Much less drives that have been exposed to the elements and metal spikes. C.S.I is not real people also the size of a magnet needed and time to properly kill a drive is insane. The only reason its used is because you can stick 100 drives in a degaussing machine at once.
But termite is fun and so is acid but a hammer and two trash bags is just as effective, oh and spray paint the platters for extra lulz.
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A : Removing the platters
B : Running the platters through a degausser
C : Rubbing the degaussed platters with coarse steel wool
D : Smashing the steel wooled, degaussed platters with a sledgehammer.
That's pretty much what you have to do to get total data destruction. But if you're just interested in smashing them, then remove the platters, but save the magnetic bearings and the really strong magnets in there.
Cause the spinny bearing's fun to play with, ditto with the powerful magnets.
Assuming the OP is in the US of course.
Apparently the Secure Erase command built into newer hard drives is the only way to truly wipe a drive without physical destruction. However it's also a pain to execute, with most motherboards locking out such a diabolical command.
DBAN is fine unless someone is really out to get you. I.e. Grissom and the Las Vegas Crime Lab.
But seriously, recreate the Office Space scene or ask a chem lab TA for an in class demonstration of acid corrosion.
I once had one in my back pocket. Then I got stuck to the fridge and almost considered crawling out of my pants to get away.
Nobody's going to get all CSI on your broken hard drive shards to get data. Especially if the worst thing you had on there was AMVs.
We're talking contains-vital-information-from-the-future levels of obsession, though. Are you a time-traveler by any chance?
Someone would have to be very desperate to tear plastic bits of broken things off a cement coffee table.
1. Remove top cover
2. Connect power to HD (only power, not data)
3. Turn on
4. Pliers
5. Spin Art!
Ah, we made some in a high school science class here in Florida. That was only about eight years ago
I figured something like that would be federally regulated. Strangely enough Google seems to add results for termites in search results for state laws.
Yeah, they throw that stuff around like sweeties at a pantomime on some TV shows like Brainiac in the UK. It can't be that illegal. Permit required perhaps?
Seriously what the hell do they make those things out of? It's like a black box or something.
you really should take the case off first and then pound the platters themselves.
Drop it in the ocean!.. im sure some salt water would take care of it in no time.
Otherwise, if you're super-paranoid, you could run DBAN's DoD standard wipe. And/or drill a hole through the drive. That'll do it too.
I don't believe it - I'm on my THIRD PS3, and my FIRST XBOX360. What the heck?
And the shooting idea is just as bad. I've seen plenty of computers, hard drives, etc. blasted to bits and left to sit in the forest. It pisses me off like you can't imagine. Some people just have no respect.
But unless the fed is coming for your secrets, you should be safe with a pass of DBAN, then destroying the contacts on the back of the disk with whatever's close to hand. If you're still worried that people are going to look at your stuff, toss the fucker in the ocean.
I tried, got all the screws out except one which was stuck in there so hard the screwdriver stripped the screw head. That thing was really built.
When the nuclear war comes there will only be cockroaches and hard drives left.
Or ya know, you could not assume everybody doesn't pick up thier trash, because a few don't. It bugs me too! As far as the ocean is concerned, yeah that is a pretty terrible idea, but it could join its friends in the Great Pacific Garbage Patch, you don't want it to be lonley, do you?
dremel tool would work, too, i guess. or a drill press.
This IS Texas, but I have nowhere to safely shoot the HD to pieces.
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No. I was never into Inuyasha to the tune of an unfinished 300,000-word fic. The fuck is your problem, accusing people of random shit like that? :P
(I'd actually forgotten about that. Now I really have to fuck up this hard drive. God only knows what'd happen if the terrorists got ahold of all those synonyms for hanyou dong.)
Remember what I said about Thermite? Just ignore it.
First over write the data: http://eraser.heidi.ie/
Second: http://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_Secure_Erase
That should cover you. If you are really paranoid you can take it to a company that specializes in data destruction that will degauss the platters and then PROPERLY destroy and dispose of them.
Also you should never burn any type of electronics (ie. with themate or the like). This can release highly toxic fumes into the air which can cause serious health problems (not to even mention ecological impacts).
This is something I was wondering about, but forgot to ask specifically. Also, the only safe places to burn stuff around here are public, so I don't particularly want to leave smoking bits of plastic where animals could sniff out remnants and eat them and spontaneously combust or something.
So what were you into to the tune of an unfinished 300,000-word fic?
Heidi eraser is good software, I second that.
(unless I want shiny, jangly rings and super magnets for something)
My professor did add the caveat to his hard drive destruction mess: "And even then, if you had the money, you could get data recovered." :P
But yes, if you're really really worried about data being recovered, get it done right by professionals.
If not, just take it apart with torx bits, and keep the parts because they're pretty fun the play with.
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I'm about to take the case off. Anyone have a handy guide to what's what in terms of what I need to smash, or will it be a self-evident chunk?
Actually there has been a $100k prize for a while now for people to recover any real amounts of data after a single pass of zero's last i checked it has yet to be claimed. Much less drives that have been exposed to the elements and metal spikes. C.S.I is not real people also the size of a magnet needed and time to properly kill a drive is insane. The only reason its used is because you can stick 100 drives in a degaussing machine at once.
But termite is fun and so is acid but a hammer and two trash bags is just as effective, oh and spray paint the platters for extra lulz.
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the shiny circles inside?
those are where the informations are at.
The shiny disc bit. They are quite tough though.