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[Neo Geo] Battle Coliseum HD Remix - Netcode is good, go play!
blaze_zero
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Neo Geo Battle Coliseum
It's out! Go buy it!
Netcode seems pretty good so far. I haven't had any matches that move in slow-mo yet.
Check it out right here.
Here's some footage from the upcoming release:
Some light combos.
I'm pretty sure they re-did all of the art in the game too. At least the win screen art looks new.
Also, Team-Up supers are super cool looking, but the damage is poop. Alas, it seems they did not change this.
It's out! Go buy it!
Netcode seems pretty good so far. I haven't had any matches that move in slow-mo yet.
Check it out right here.
Here's some footage from the upcoming release:
Some light combos.
I'm pretty sure they re-did all of the art in the game too. At least the win screen art looks new.
Also, Team-Up supers are super cool looking, but the damage is poop. Alas, it seems they did not change this.
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Please SNK, don't screw up the netplay too badly.
NGBC definitely deserves more love. It's a collection of great underrated characters from great underrated fighting games to form an ultimate underrated fighting game.
I (always) need more Shiki in my life.
Stop dicking PSN over SNK.
Actually no, whatever. I don't really care about NGBC. Just give us KoF2002:UM!
I actually had a bunch more typed up... but I accidentally clicked on another site and destroyed my work...
Also, it looks like they took out the screen zooming? Strange.
Last comment: The 3D bear stage still looks terrible. TERRIBLE.
But this is still so bought, but FUUUU SNK, I'm trying to phase my 360 out!!
Edit: Also....how do I buy japanese Live games?
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Garou's netcode was not good, I have my doubts about this one.
fixed.
Microsoft, bridge the gap please.
but dammit, I liked NGBC. I'll be cautiously watching this
Edit: And Last Blade characters? Mmm, there are so many little lovelies packed in places.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPVEFwUaRlU
One thing that's starting to worry me is that I haven't seen ANY of the old 2D stages. Just the 3D stages from the PS2 version and some new 3D ones. Not that the 3D stages are terrible or anything, but the 2D stages were great and they look much better. I hope SNK is just taking some extra time to get the wide-screen right. I hope.
Anyone else going to get it?
I do own KoF XI, though, and that is a really fun game. I would hope for a re-release, but I really doubt it will happen.
I want KoF UM'02 already, though. Spring '10 means... you know... like now SNK.
Though, no 360.
This is probably the closest we're ever gonna get to Last Blade vs. Samurai Spirits, though.
Heavy Machine gun: Marco fires his machine gun straight ahead. Hits multiple times (obviously). Relatively quick.
Iron Lizard: Marco fires an iron lizard. (You remember these from Metal Slug, right?) It travels along the ground and must be blocked low.
Grenade: Marco tosses a grenade in an arc.
Jet Pack attack: Marco flies forward with a jet pack on his back.
Basically, my strategy is to annoy my opponent from a distance by using different variations of the first three attacks. If they're getting too close, (or are about to jump in) I use the Jet Pack attack to put some more distance between us, and hopefully do some damage in the process.
At close range, however, you really need to know Marco's knife combos. Which are a bit tricky, in terms of input.
For supers, the one I see used exclusively in actual competitions is the one where he summons Hyakutomaru (aka: the hadouken-ing prisoner from Metal Slug). This is kind of a weird super, since Hyakutomaru strolls out at a leisurely pace, walks back and forth for a while, and then fires his super projectile. The amount of time it takes before he fires the super varies though. Basically, its main purpose is to give your opponent something else to worry about on the screen, in addition to whatever else you're doing while Hyakutomaru is moseying around. It usually doesn't hit.
So yeah, Marco is different but not too difficult to use. I think it's interesting to compare his moves to Fio's in KOF Maximum Impact 2, since they came out around the same time (2006 I think). While both are fun, I kind of prefer Marco's.
Apparently according to SRK the netcode is decent. But they used to say 12's netcode was decent initially so I dunno.
I'm pleased to say this is in widescreen. Since they had 3D backgrounds they used the MvC2 method of making it widescreen (i.e. It looks widescreen but has the original borders still there). Like MvC2 it looks odd if there's a character that jumps off the wall but other than that it looks fine.
One bad thing (for some) is that there's no original pixelated graphics option. So you have to live with the graphics filter. The only options are original (sort like MvC2's "sharp" option) and smooth which I hate because it makes everything look blurry.
Edit: Is this only coming out on 360 like Garou? If so I don't understand why SNK is doing that. Unless there's some sort of super secret giant 360 based SNK fan group in some part of the world. It seems silly.
It's nostalgic in a bad sort of way.
I really wish the people who complain about Seth in SFIV could play this. I would laugh as they can't beat a boss with two characters where the boss is given only 1/4 one of your character's health as a handicap.
p.s. If anyone is thinking about responding to this with some sort of "SNK boss syndrome" link don't bother. I already know what that is. It's just been a while since I've experienced it.
Yeah, NGBC's bosses are completely ridiculous. It's as if they kicked SNK Boss Syndrome up a notch. (BAM!) But I think Mizuchi (the easiest boss to reach) is actually the second-hardest. King Lion and Nio Dio, while bastards, aren't quite as bad.
Then you get to Goodman, and you miss Mizuchi SO MUCH.
I think SNK's policy of releasing games to the 360 rather than the PS3 is based entirely on financial considerations. From what I've heard, Sony's policy actually makes it more expensive (in the long term) for publishers to release games for the PSN. I believe this is why some Capcom PSN/XBL releases actually cost more on PSN. Don't remember the details though.
In order to beat them, you need to be connecting with a lot of one-hit supers. Long multi-hit supers (like Ryo's and Iori's ranbus) do so little damage at first that the boss can actually regenerate health faster than the supers damage him. So stick to super fireballs, power geysers and things like that.
Argh, still though, if it's good, when KoF2k2UM hits I might just have to get a 360.
Gives me hope for KoF13 now.
Are there any good ones? And don't say the SF 4 Madcatz fightpad, as I bought one of those and it broke after two weeks.
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Pad-EX-Turbo-Black/dp/B002LT9PXQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1276164213&sr=8-1
There's also some good information about PS2 to 360 adapters here if you want to go that route: http://shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=181187
And if you do go the PS2 to 360 route, the Xconverter and Blazepro adapters work well with the Keio.dk Saturn > PS2 adapters if you have a Saturn pad you'd like to use. Granted, that's a mess of adapters but at least there isn't input lag (according to Virtual On players at least).
Broke after two weeks? Good god man, how do you play? Bashing it against the floor?
I have 2, two of my friends have them, and none of them have had any problems at all.
This was about a week after owning it, Mad Catz offered to repair/replace but only if I paid shipping both ways (no RMA box/envelope or anything like that). It was still cheaper than buying another at the store, at least, but it was kind of a sour experience.
That said, the repair/replacement hasn't stopped working. It's not my favorite controller but it's better than the 360 pad at least. I play more with a Hori EX SE now, though.
There are very few people online as expected. I got my ass kicked hardcore, also as expected. Everyone seems proficient in this game and me being new to it and having never really played an SNK game against a human opponent (who knows what they're doing) the results went poorly for me. Well not never, but I gave up on other SNK games this gen due to bad netcode very quickly. So I pretty much have no idea what I'm doing.
Anyway, If I were to rate all the fighting games I've played online from best to worst netcode or online play in general it would go as follows.
1) Blazblue
2) HDR, MvC2
3) SFIV, SSFIV
4) Soul Calibur 4
5) KoF XII, 98 UM, Garou.
I'm pretty sure this game falls somewhere between SC4 and SFIV. It's hard to compare because those two use "bars" and this one uses ping to rate your connection. The highest pinging match I played was 200, so if I had a way to compare that to the bar system it would be nice. The 200 ping match was pretty much unplayable, and I remember 200 ping being pretty bad from my CS days so that's to be expected. I'm assuming you need better ping for a fighter than an fps. You should search for less to or if not possible close to 100 ping matches.
Anyway I think they've improved the netcode for sure, but it could probably use a little more work and refinement.
Edit: Note I don't remember SC4 matches being as horribly terrible as most. I remember them being fine if I could find a 5 bar match and decent for 4 bars. I've also been able to play some 2 bar matches in SFIV without complaint. I might be a little more lenient than most with how much lag I can tolerate.
However, the game is pretty fun and I'm torn on who I want my team to be.