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If you were ever an angsty teenager that had an I.Q. higher than that of a snail, but less than a rocket scientist, you probably thought Catcher in the Rye - or Franny and Zoey, were totally awesome books.
Because they were.
Well, the old reclusive bastard who wrote those things died today. Discuss his insane life, and how his work made you want to write, but give up several months/years later.
Dead.
Also -
Today was, incidentally, a horrible day for bananafish.
Because they were.
Well, the old reclusive bastard who wrote those things died today. Discuss his insane life, and how his work made you want to write, but give up several months/years later.
Dead.
Also -
Today was, incidentally, a horrible day for bananafish.
You ever try and draw Falcor as a giant dong? No? It just ends up looking like a long cyclops.
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That is not a good read. If I want to read whining I have plenty of resources available online.
That does not mean the book was terrible. That just means you didn't like it.
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.. But so did Mark Chapman
.. and he killed John Lennon
also the new yorker has all of the short stories of his that they published up for free
were they good books
But I still don't understand how it is a literary masterpiece. The book is a kid whining for pages and pages and pages.
Again, whining a good read does not make.
and yet that is exactly what will happen on every page of this thread
I dunno, you sound pretty whiny and I'm entertained
Wait, no I'm not
I guess you're right
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that being said, the book is a classic piece of American literature
like this post for instance
At least we have consensus!
im the catcher
How about that Hamlet
I mean, jeeze, it's a fucking play. No one likes plays. And it's depressing. Everyone fucking dies at the end. I don't understand why they keep making generations and generations of kids read this trash, there's clearly nothing of value in it cuz I don't like it.
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As American recluses go, my favorite is probably Bill Watterson. I'll be sad when he dies.
this is some genius
I realize that using a thread about a guy dying is a pretty poor place to criticize his work.
But it was his only major work.
I mean seriously, what the hell else are we gonna talk about?
I hadn't even heard of Raise High the Roof Beam until I started looking into him when I started reading Catcher.
EDIT: If you're looking for a more detailed criticism:
The plot moves at a glacial pace, due to the fact that every action involves at least one page of what can only be termed as whining (seriously I can't think of any better terms, if you've got one, I'd be glad to hear it).
The protagonist seems to be a silly goose just to be a silly goose at times, and while the scenes involving his sister are touching, it is the only time he isn't kvetching at how phony the world is. There is a point to it, but DAMN couldn't he have, I don't know, not made the thing brains-fall-out boring for 230-some pages before that point?
As a story, it falls short. As an... experiment? It does okay.
hamlet ain't that great sheri hts
hts means hate to say
edit: he wrote franny and zooey which is a major work dude
pay attention to the OP
Cutting you right meow
meow means now
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toooo bad the english teacher I had at the time ended up being a pedophile! He was my favorite english teacher. You know, until the whole "I sleep with my students" thing came out
Yeah that is kind of a bummer
Hamlet saved Shakespeare for me, pretty much
Even though my prof for Hamlet was also a d-bag, but with less kid-fucking
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everything you were going to say about catcher ("it sux, holden was silly/a goose") has been said on this very forum a million times already
he wrote lots of other major works
he's pretty majorly celebrated for his short stories
was he your favorite BECAUSE he slept with you
and then they took him away?
is that why you're bitter
also did that silly goose rule get revoked because i see a lot of insults in this thread
Are you saying Hamlet is his only redeeming work?
from there, the cullings could take place
:^:
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disillusionment/disaffection with the rich and successful is a pretty enduring theme throughout his stuff
dude was a recluse for a reason
aren't you from daneland?
Dudes pouring poison in your ear is like, the third most common way to die out there, or so I hear
No
I am saying that up until that point, I was one of those 'goddamnit we have to read this shit every year I don't understand half of it and no one likes plays wtf' students
Then I read Hamlet
And I was like, 'Holy shit this is awesome!'
And then I re-read a bunch of stuff I'd read as a snot-nosed brat, and I liked it!
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Yes, I think this is a satisfactory conclusion