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Disappointed in PAX-East
BerserkerBarage
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I'm planning on going to PAX East. However, I've been holding off on purchasing a 3-day badge because I was waiting for some relevant, or really any, information at all to be posted about the event. I like to be a smart consumer and the idea of buying a 3-day pass to an event that I know NOTHING about is pretty much against everything logical.
We don't know what vendors/speakers are going. We don't know what events are going on. I think selling passes before you even released this information was a mistake. And now the people who didn't immediately buy passes probably because they were waiting for such information are getting the short end of the stick.
I don't know why things for PAX-E are being handled so much differently than PAX-W but it's very disconcerting. Quite a few of my friends who were waiting to buy passes until actual information was released have now sworn off going because it's not worth spending almost 2 times the amount for admission. If this is any indication of how PAX-E is going to be run, I should have just planned on going to PAX-W or not at all.
~B.B.
We don't know what vendors/speakers are going. We don't know what events are going on. I think selling passes before you even released this information was a mistake. And now the people who didn't immediately buy passes probably because they were waiting for such information are getting the short end of the stick.
I don't know why things for PAX-E are being handled so much differently than PAX-W but it's very disconcerting. Quite a few of my friends who were waiting to buy passes until actual information was released have now sworn off going because it's not worth spending almost 2 times the amount for admission. If this is any indication of how PAX-E is going to be run, I should have just planned on going to PAX-W or not at all.
~B.B.
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How is this different than PAX west? For PAX prime Tickets go on sale around feb/march and info isn't released until about 6 weeks or so before the event. PA doesn't want to release info until its solidified which doesn't happen until closer to the event.
My apologies that you didn't buy a ticket before 3-day passes sold out, but there have been multiple indications that passes will sell out, if that wasn't enough of an indicator for you stop waiting and buy your tickets... well, here we are.
Passes have been on sale for well over 6 months!
Pax has always opened up ticket sales before any info was released about the show. If you are that worried about what EXACTLY is going to happen then wait and pay the price. What do you mean you have no idea what to expect? You have every other pax ever to go on. They all have been fun and great and well managed from what i have experienced and been told by close friends.
So you waited too long and now passes are sold out and this is a surprise to you how? The past 2 years of prime have sold out why would east be any different?
<Qs23> I just need to get my dicks in a row
<prox> i work for dicks
#paforums_pax, all about the dicks.
I can understand your position Moe, you're a fan of PAX. I'm more a fan of certain developers and whether or not I would plan to go relies more upon whether or not these developers will be in attendance. Many of the people I'm friends with are the same way. We go to PAX because it's an easy way to entice people in our "community" into flying to a certain locale. However, it's because we are all part of an overarching gaming community.
Maybe "PAX is happening in x place on y dates" is all you need to know to spend $50. Not me. Or a wide variety of people.
Like I said, I'm just disappointed that at this point I'll have to spend $90 if I want to go even with absolutely no information.
~B.B.
If you can kick my ass at Gravitronix, you win $1,000.
What more do you want?!
At least the way they handle things now, they're not making any promises that won't come true, unless an exhibitor or performer pulls out last second (like with the ghostbusters game and ecto-1 or MC Chris back in 08).
You are free to try your luck getting 3-day passes in the Have a ticket/Need a ticket thread, but if you're unwilling to do so until announcements are made, you may find supplies to be limited.
edit: you may not find too many people sympathetic to your plight here, as you noted, I'm a fan of PAX. The reality of it is that everybody on this board is a fan of PAX and we're likely to defend the way they do things, because we're used to it and we haven't been disappointed yet. Most of us also bought our passes months ago because we have faith in PA and Reed to throw a kickass show.
Yes. Because illogical fanboism is such a better option...o_O
Excuse me for being pragmatic.
~B.B.
The panels and the expo hall have always been great, and will be great again, but the reason people line up to buy their tickets six months out without knowing any of the details is because they look forward to the celebration.
If you're not going to PAX to party, I'm afraid you're doing it wrong.
Passes have been on sale since Oct for those who wanted to pre-register if they wanted to. Its probably easier to do that then release 100% of the show info 4-6 weeks before the show and try to sell tickets too.
From my understanding, every PAX you were able to walk up and buy a 3-day pass at the door except for last year when they sold out a few days before PAX started.
PAX is just doing what it always does and they can't anticipate selling out 55 or so days before the show.
If you've been to two PAX events like you say then you'd know it is going to be awesome and you would've ordered your 3-day pass if you were serious about going. I'm pretty sure people are paying the extra for the single day passes just so they can go because everyone loves PAX.
The problem is most people go for the panels and meeting cool people and getting to play the new raving rabids is just a cherry on top. So lets hope it all works out for you in the end but coming on and just yelling about how pax is sold out is not the best way to meet new friends.
-peace
<Qs23> I just need to get my dicks in a row
<prox> i work for dicks
#paforums_pax, all about the dicks.
Actually, that's exactly what I was planning on doing. However, myself and several people that I'm friends with would rather not plan on going to PAX-E if the rest of our "community" isn't going to be there.
Again, the difference is distinction between Moe and myself. He's a PAX fan. I'm not. He's willing to buy onto PAX-E before anything relevant is known. I'm not. His "community" will be there regardless. Mine won't or will be far less likely if certain Devs don't come. And the reason why we put so much importance on certain Devs are because we are friends with them and this is one of the few opportunities we get to hang out with them in person.
~B.B.
I say we stop feeding the troll.
I am truly surprised at how blind you are. PAX is more than just the expo hall, and if you've spent your last two PAXs doing that, then you really are doing it wrong. You're basically wasting money by not taking full advantage of what PAX has to offer. After two PAXs you should know that PAX is no place to be a hermit...
You say you dont want to pay double or triple? You couldve been the guy selling their pass for double or triple if worse came to worse.
Theres a difference between fanboism and being prepared, especially when announcements (About the number of remaining passes) were made.
Theres a matter here of not knowing whats going to be at PAX.While I myself have never been to a PAX before, I know its track record for win and happiness.A General fellowship with like minded folk, a good time, and a few drinks.
If I see some developers I like, awesome. However, Im a PAX nub and even I can see youre completely missing the point of PAX.
If you want to be mad at someone be mad at me, Im one of those people who's been waiting for PAXEAST for a looong time.
Maybe PAX just isn't the right convention for you since guests aren't locked down 6 months beforehand, I don't know what else to say. But they aren't going to change the way they sell tickets.
I know PAX has always done things this way, and it has been fine since tickets sell out. However, if they are interested in bringing in new participants more and better organized information on the website would NOT be a bad idea. If I didn't know anything about PAX I would want to know that I would have fun there, and a bunch of strangers telling me that I would isn't enough, before I bought my ticket. Examples of panels and events can be found in the forums, but aren't available on the website which is where a new person would look.
Obviously there are plenty of people who are willing to buy tickets without this knowledge, but even converted fans like myself would benefit from more information being available in a more organized, easily accessible manner. So before you rip this guys head off, just because this is how things have always been done doesn't mean that there is no room for improvement. I hope people at PA consider maybe providing more information on the site, even if it isn't specific events/speakers.
So why don't you pick up your phone, call your homies and be like AY YOU COMIN TO PAX EAST OR WHAT?
Accusing someone of "trolling" is such a pathetic thing to do. It's sad to see this type of mentality is common no matter what forum you're on.
If I was trolling, I don't think I would have been as civil as I have been in the face of such resistance. Trolling by definition is posting to get a negative response. I, honestly, do not want any of the sort.
I was expressing my discontent that if we wanted to get a 3-day pass to PAX-E than we'd be required to purchase one based upon little information other than assumptions. I've been to PAX-W and I understand what happens there. To think that everything at PAX-E will operate in the exact same fashion as PAX-W is probably a faulty assumption. I'm not saying that is necessarily a bad thing, but it very well could be.
Maybe I should have just bought a 3-day pass before I even planned on going. However, this seems like just an asinine approach to this. Should I really be forced to buy a pass I might not even need without even knowing what is going to be at PAX? The only way I can afford to go to PAX-E is if some of my friends are attending so we can share costs. Most of my friends won't be attending PAX-E if certain developers aren't going to be in attendance.
I don't see exactly how this is unreasonable.
~B.B.
Thats what I did for Riot Games, since Im all about some sweet sweet League of Legends action, and am an Adjudicator for their forums.
When there was an update that tickets were selling fast and likely to sell out I reached out to a buddy about going with so it could cut down the hotel cost. I bought my tickets as soon as he said he was down to go. I kept checking the forums and site, and there were several updates on the progress of ticket sales, so it was definitely something that was communicated to the public that "if you want to go, don't wait to buy your tickets".
Sorry you feel you missed out.
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It's not, but you are pointing out a flaw in something that many people consider sacred. Do you have every right to want more information before making your decisions? Yes. Are you out of luck because other people are willing to make that decision without that information? Yes. Sorry.
So Im going into this completely and absolutely blind.
Probably because they haven't said yes or no either way. Hence my hesitation on buying a 3-day pass. And quite honestly it's not such an unreasonable reason to be hesitant. I know quite a few hundred people who will or won't attend PAX-E depending on whether a specific dev is going to be there.
Regardless. Moe, feel free to lock this thread since the issue has been resolved by a PA employee via PM, which I'm very grateful for.
~B.B.
You're trolling. You're just saying the same thing over and over regardless of what people say.
You know how PAX works, right? You've been to two, right? Shouldn't be a myster...right? There have been updates since early January saying that tickets are being snapped up. If you were paying attention then you would've known for the past week it was getting low and such.
If you're going there just for the devs then do what everyone has told you and that is common sense. Email/call them and see if they're going.
I'm glad you were able to get help.