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Yet another request for Relationship Assistance

TheMadHuntsmanTheMadHuntsman Registered User regular
edited February 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
OK, here's the situation, forum homies. I'm a minor, under 18. However, I appear much older than I actually am. I happen to own geckos, which requires me to buy crickets for them frequently. I've been chatting up the cashier girl a lot recently, who's in her 20's, and I can't quite tell if she's flirting with me or just being friendly. I consider our relationship to be a personal one, given that we talk so much, but I'm weighing the benefits and risks of making a move. On the one hand, I'm desperately single, my parents have, for the most part, given me the go ahead, and she seems like a nice enough girl. On the other: I risk alienating someone I speak to frequently, as well as losing a good friend and getting her in trouble at her job. Can I get some counsel on this matter?

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  • JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    OK, here's the situation, forum homies. I'm a minor, under 18. However, I appear much older than I actually am. I happen to own geckos, which requires me to buy crickets for them frequently. I've been chatting up the cashier girl a lot recently, who's in her 20's, and I can't quite tell if she's flirting with me or just being friendly. I consider our relationship to be a personal one, given that we talk so much, but I'm weighing the benefits and risks of making a move. On the one hand, I'm desperately single, my parents have, for the most part, given me the go ahead, and she seems like a nice enough girl. On the other: I risk alienating someone I speak to frequently, as well as losing a good friend and getting her in trouble at her job. Can I get some counsel on this matter?

    Don't make it an imperative to say yes. Just ask her if she would like to go do a thing with you. Or maybe invite her to a party or something, so it starts as a group thing and then move it to a non group situation. Just suggest it and if she says no then forget about it.

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I'll be quite honest, you may appear older than you actually are, but you're still under 18, and she's still in her 20's. I don't know how SHE feels about this as I'm not her, but It's very likely that when she finds out that you're 17 (or however old you are) she may just walk away. Not saying it WILL happen...but there's a good chance.

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Yeeeeeah.. You're young as shit. All my relationship advice dealt with post-18-year-old-itude.

    Face it, while you may look older, you're young as shit. Personally, I even look at 18-year-olds as crazy young. Maybe she wants that, or maybe she thinks you're older, but... there's so goddamn much that goes on 18-21. Like a billion thing. If she thinks you're older? Well, that'll last 'till she finds out your age. If she know how young you are? Well... things may change when you're older.

    I mean, fuck... I almost was going to tell a story about how going for it can't hurt, but that's an age difference to kill all age differences. You're young, find another young person. Crush on/fuck her. It'll really end up better probably.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited February 2010
    I bring up point #2: unless you want to hand-hold date her, don't bother. Depending on your state, if she's much older than 20 she can still get in serious trouble for sleeping with you if a third party gets a bug up their ass about it.

    That is completely aside from any interest or lack thereof on her part, and if you're turning 18 in a week or the laws in your state don't give a fuck, you can feel free to ignore it.

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    It's always, always a bad idea to start a relationship on a falsehood, even if it's lying by omission.

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  • Grid SystemGrid System Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    How much younger than 18 are you, and how much older than 20 is she? I started dating my girlfriend when she was 17 and I was 22 (she's now 20, and I'm 24), so it's certainly doable if the age difference isn't too great.

    If you've spoken with her a lot, you'll have a better idea of what she's into. Just ask her when she gets off work and if she wants to go do something.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    How much younger than 18 are you, and how much older than 20 is she? I started dating my girlfriend when she was 17 and I was 22 (she's now 20, and I'm 24), so it's certainly doable if the age difference isn't too great.

    If you've spoken with her a lot, you'll have a better idea of what she's into. Just ask her when she gets off work and if she wants to go do something.

    Yeah, but as a rule girls generally don't date younger men. Especially pre-18 men.

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  • Grid SystemGrid System Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Nothing ventured, nothing gained. As long as he doesn't say something along the lines of, "Do you want to be my girlfriend," the worst she'll do is decline the invitation.

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  • pogo mudderpogo mudder Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I'll be quite honest, you may appear older than you actually are, but you're still under 18, and she's still in her 20's. I don't know how SHE feels about this as I'm not her, but It's very likely that when she finds out that you're 17 (or however old you are) she may just walk away. Not saying it WILL happen...but there's a good chance.

    This is very probable, I'm 20 and once got very friendly with a girl at work who seemed roughly about the same age, we went out for drinks, discovered we actually had nearly a ten year age difference and things felt a little wierd so we left it at that.

    I'd second asking her to some group event, and see what she says. Or invite her to your 18th birthday party :)

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    It's always, always a bad idea to start a relationship on a falsehood, even if it's lying by omission.
    Bullshit.

    Listen, you're asking the girl out on a date, not asking her to marry you. And I'm not saying you should lie to her, but if you don't mention the age thing until the third date or so, I don't think anyone is going to say you're a terrible person.

    Of course, that's assuming there is even a first date, let alone a third date. As for the sex thing, worry about that bridge when you come to it. I say you ask her; odds are, she's going to shoot you down, anyway, and it won't be an issue.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Thanatos wrote: »
    It's always, always a bad idea to start a relationship on a falsehood, even if it's lying by omission.
    Bullshit.

    Listen, you're asking the girl out on a date, not asking her to marry you. And I'm not saying you should lie to her, but if you don't mention the age thing until the third date or so, I don't think anyone is going to say you're a terrible person.

    Of course, that's assuming there is even a first date, let alone a third date. As for the sex thing, worry about that bridge when you come to it. I say you ask her; odds are, she's going to shoot you down, anyway, and it won't be an issue.

    I'm going to disagree on this one. He'd at least better mention it before ANY physical contact is initiated.

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Esh wrote: »
    How much younger than 18 are you, and how much older than 20 is she? I started dating my girlfriend when she was 17 and I was 22 (she's now 20, and I'm 24), so it's certainly doable if the age difference isn't too great.

    If you've spoken with her a lot, you'll have a better idea of what she's into. Just ask her when she gets off work and if she wants to go do something.

    Yeah, but as a rule girls generally don't date younger men. Especially pre-18 men.

    Well, dating younger men isn't a big deal, and there certainly is not 'rule' (obviously no literal rule) that women go by that says or makes them think they can't or shouldn't date younger men. In fact, a female friend of mine (who is nearly 21) is dating an 18 year old, and they're really happy, but the OP is under 18 (minor) and she's over 20 by god knows how much. She may or may not be into younger guys, and I doubt she's into guys younger than her by several years.....especially when it's illegal to have sex since he's under 18.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Esh wrote: »
    How much younger than 18 are you, and how much older than 20 is she? I started dating my girlfriend when she was 17 and I was 22 (she's now 20, and I'm 24), so it's certainly doable if the age difference isn't too great.

    If you've spoken with her a lot, you'll have a better idea of what she's into. Just ask her when she gets off work and if she wants to go do something.

    Yeah, but as a rule girls generally don't date younger men. Especially pre-18 men.

    Well, dating younger men isn't a big deal, and there certainly is not 'rule' (obviously no literal rule) that women go by that says or makes them think they can't or shouldn't date younger men. In fact, a female friend of mine (who is nearly 21) is dating an 18 year old, and they're really happy, but the OP is under 18 (minor) and she's over 20 by god knows how much. She may or may not be into younger guys, and I doubt she's into guys younger than her by several years.....especially when it's illegal to have sex since he's under 18.

    I dunno, almost all of my friends are women and they never date younger. I think it's a fluke with your friend, although they are both pretty young. Most of my friends are in their mid 20's to early 30's.

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  • TheMadHuntsmanTheMadHuntsman Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Thanks for all the advice, dudes. Think it might be a bit irrelevant tho. Added her on facebook, apparently I'm "cricket boy" to her and her circle of friends lmao

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Thanks for all the advice, dudes. Think it might be a bit irrelevant tho. Added her on facebook, apparently I'm "cricket boy" to her and her circle of friends lmao

    Yeah, that's not a good sign. Sorry. :P

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  • TheMadHuntsmanTheMadHuntsman Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Yup. But such is life, eh? And who knows, perhaps there's hope, but I agree- it seems doubtful.

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  • ComahawkComahawk Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Esh wrote: »
    Esh wrote: »
    How much younger than 18 are you, and how much older than 20 is she? I started dating my girlfriend when she was 17 and I was 22 (she's now 20, and I'm 24), so it's certainly doable if the age difference isn't too great.

    If you've spoken with her a lot, you'll have a better idea of what she's into. Just ask her when she gets off work and if she wants to go do something.

    Yeah, but as a rule girls generally don't date younger men. Especially pre-18 men.

    Well, dating younger men isn't a big deal, and there certainly is not 'rule' (obviously no literal rule) that women go by that says or makes them think they can't or shouldn't date younger men. In fact, a female friend of mine (who is nearly 21) is dating an 18 year old, and they're really happy, but the OP is under 18 (minor) and she's over 20 by god knows how much. She may or may not be into younger guys, and I doubt she's into guys younger than her by several years.....especially when it's illegal to have sex since he's under 18.

    I dunno, almost all of my friends are women and they never date younger. I think it's a fluke with your friend, although they are both pretty young. Most of my friends are in their mid 20's to early 30's.

    My girlfriend is two years older than me and we are in a very serious relationship. Women do date younger than themselves, it is just not common, as most guys lack the maturity they seek. Given the right guy however, I bet your friends would date younger.

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  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Comahawk wrote: »
    Esh wrote: »
    Esh wrote: »
    How much younger than 18 are you, and how much older than 20 is she? I started dating my girlfriend when she was 17 and I was 22 (she's now 20, and I'm 24), so it's certainly doable if the age difference isn't too great.

    If you've spoken with her a lot, you'll have a better idea of what she's into. Just ask her when she gets off work and if she wants to go do something.

    Yeah, but as a rule girls generally don't date younger men. Especially pre-18 men.

    Well, dating younger men isn't a big deal, and there certainly is not 'rule' (obviously no literal rule) that women go by that says or makes them think they can't or shouldn't date younger men. In fact, a female friend of mine (who is nearly 21) is dating an 18 year old, and they're really happy, but the OP is under 18 (minor) and she's over 20 by god knows how much. She may or may not be into younger guys, and I doubt she's into guys younger than her by several years.....especially when it's illegal to have sex since he's under 18.

    I dunno, almost all of my friends are women and they never date younger. I think it's a fluke with your friend, although they are both pretty young. Most of my friends are in their mid 20's to early 30's.

    My girlfriend is two years older than me and we are in a very serious relationship. Women do date younger than themselves, it is just not common, as most guys lack the maturity they seek. Given the right guy however, I bet your friends would date younger.

    Also considering statutory rape laws vary state to state you can't say it'd be illegal for them to have a physical relationship without more info.

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  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Comahawk wrote: »
    Esh wrote: »
    Esh wrote: »
    How much younger than 18 are you, and how much older than 20 is she? I started dating my girlfriend when she was 17 and I was 22 (she's now 20, and I'm 24), so it's certainly doable if the age difference isn't too great.

    If you've spoken with her a lot, you'll have a better idea of what she's into. Just ask her when she gets off work and if she wants to go do something.

    Yeah, but as a rule girls generally don't date younger men. Especially pre-18 men.

    Well, dating younger men isn't a big deal, and there certainly is not 'rule' (obviously no literal rule) that women go by that says or makes them think they can't or shouldn't date younger men. In fact, a female friend of mine (who is nearly 21) is dating an 18 year old, and they're really happy, but the OP is under 18 (minor) and she's over 20 by god knows how much. She may or may not be into younger guys, and I doubt she's into guys younger than her by several years.....especially when it's illegal to have sex since he's under 18.

    I dunno, almost all of my friends are women and they never date younger. I think it's a fluke with your friend, although they are both pretty young. Most of my friends are in their mid 20's to early 30's.

    My girlfriend is two years older than me and we are in a very serious relationship. Women do date younger than themselves, it is just not common, as most guys lack the maturity they seek. Given the right guy however, I bet your friends would date younger.

    My girlfriend is 6 years older than me, so I'll chime in to the "older girls will date younger guys" choir. But as Comahawk said, maturity gets you far.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Being able to ask out someone is a good skill. Do it.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Being able to ask out someone is a good skill. Do it.

    Did you read his update? Her and her friends call him "Cricket Boy". They think he's a cute kid. That's it. :P

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  • CooterTKECooterTKE Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    First off If you had to ask your parents for the go ahead then you probably did not have a chance. Second just because they call you cricket boy is not entirely a bad thing.

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  • VenochVenoch Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Why would you ask your parents?

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I'm going to guess that the OP is 16 at the oldest.

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  • rfaliasrfalias Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Esh wrote: »
    Esh wrote: »
    How much younger than 18 are you, and how much older than 20 is she? I started dating my girlfriend when she was 17 and I was 22 (she's now 20, and I'm 24), so it's certainly doable if the age difference isn't too great.

    If you've spoken with her a lot, you'll have a better idea of what she's into. Just ask her when she gets off work and if she wants to go do something.

    Yeah, but as a rule girls generally don't date younger men. Especially pre-18 men.

    Well, dating younger men isn't a big deal, and there certainly is not 'rule' (obviously no literal rule) that women go by that says or makes them think they can't or shouldn't date younger men. In fact, a female friend of mine (who is nearly 21) is dating an 18 year old, and they're really happy, but the OP is under 18 (minor) and she's over 20 by god knows how much. She may or may not be into younger guys, and I doubt she's into guys younger than her by several years.....especially when it's illegal to have sex since he's under 18.

    I dunno, almost all of my friends are women and they never date younger. I think it's a fluke with your friend, although they are both pretty young. Most of my friends are in their mid 20's to early 30's.


    My Fiancee is 5 years older than me, my mom is 5 years older than my dad.


    As for the OP,
    Cricket Boy is not a good sign. They prolly think you are just a "cute kid" as someone pointed out.
    Stay in your age bracket and you will have much better luck.

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  • DemerdarDemerdar Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Yeah, unfortunately in the world of 20+ somethings; being 18 or younger puts you in a very immature place. A lot happens between 18 and 22 that changes you (and I'm not talking about looking older, either). I can generally tell when somebody is 18 as soon as they open their mouth. It's even easier when you are still in highschool.

    However; I'd say go for it.. you never know.

    Just don't hold your breath.

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  • WassermeloneWassermelone Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Obviously as people have pointed out, that sort of age gap happens while dating... but probably not at YOUR age gap.

    The difference in ages is a lot larger the younger the two people are, and almost immaterial the older you are.

    Someone 12 dating someone 17 would be all sorts of wrong, but someone 22 dating someone 27 wouldn't be wierd in the slightest. You arn't quite over that hump yet.

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  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    There's a simple sketchyness equation:

    ('Age of older person'/2) + 7 = minimum age of younger dating partner.

    However there is a WIDE gulf between college and high school.

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  • FallingmanFallingman Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Venoch wrote: »
    Why would you ask your parents?

    Seriously. Forget all the rules and stuff - this is the kind of thing that could indicate an issue. There can be a big maturity difference between 17 and 20. I dont know anything about you, but the above statement made me wonder whether you would have much in common with someone older.

    Having saind that - I know nothing about this girl either.

    I am also the younder man by four years - so I'm not just being closed minded.

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  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I'm a minor, under 18.

    Are you above the age of consent in your state? If not, don't even think about it. You could get this girl arrested, which would be a traumatic start to your romantic career.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Fallingman wrote: »
    Venoch wrote: »
    Why would you ask your parents?

    Seriously. Forget all the rules and stuff - this is the kind of thing that could indicate an issue. There can be a big maturity difference between 17 and 20. I dont know anything about you, but the above statement made me wonder whether you would have much in common with someone older.

    Having saind that - I know nothing about this girl either.

    I am also the younder man by four years - so I'm not just being closed minded.
    Dude, if you're gonna bring a girl out on a date at his age, the parents are gonna want to meet her.

    If anything, I'd say asking them first shows more maturity.

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    If he's already told his parents and they happen to meet her, they'll bring it up good or bad.

    I don't think asking her out can hurt. All those dudes bringing up consent are kind of jumping the gun in my opinion, she hasn't even been given the oppotunity to say yes or no yet much less risk going to jail.

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  • TheMadHuntsmanTheMadHuntsman Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    To clarify a few things: I ask my parents about plenty of things. I have a close relationship with them and like to keep them informed about my life; as such, I wanted their opinion. The cricket boy thing I take in a more "What a wierdo" context than a "He's a cute kid" context. And I'm a little further south than sixteen.

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  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Malkor wrote: »
    she hasn't even been given the oppotunity to say yes or no yet much less risk going to jail.

    If she can't say yes without breaking the law in a very serious fashion (welcome to the sex offenders register), why even ask?

    If the boy is legal, then he might as well ask - nothing ventured, nothing gained.

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    And I'm a little further south than sixteen.
    uhhhhh.

    That actually might be a problem, but you guys could still have a pretty good time if she says yes.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    To clarify a few things: I ask my parents about plenty of things. I have a close relationship with them and like to keep them informed about my life; as such, I wanted their opinion. The cricket boy thing I take in a more "What a wierdo" context than a "He's a cute kid" context. And I'm a little further south than sixteen.
    Ignore what I said about asking her out. I was going on the assumption that you were, like, seventeen.

    Twenties is waaaaaayyyy out of your ballpark at the moment.

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  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    And I'm a little further south than sixteen.

    So you are under 16? Then unless your state is quite unusual, you are not above the age of consent. Which means "no way". Ain't going to happen.

    If she dates you, she risks jail and the sex offenders register, which would ruin her life. Would you do that to someone you like?

    Would the people on this board advise a 15 year old girl to date a 22 year old guy if the genders were reversed? I don't think so.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Called it.

    Bet he's 14. He got balls even thinking about asking her out, I'll give him that.

    OP, stick to girls your own age.

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  • RyeRye Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    So, in a year, you *might* be able to drive her to buy beer. Not a good age gap. Sorry man.

    EDIT - I don't think you look as old as you think you do if they're calling you cricket kid.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Sounds like she perceives you as being harmless, which is usually not a good sign. Plus you're way too young to be going out with her, even if she did like you (which would raise some flags anyway).

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