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DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
edited February 2010 in Social Entropy++
America's Cup!

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It's kind of a big deal. Anyway, who do you think is going to win?

The Swiss

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or

The USA

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This thread is about sailing, the america's cup and a place to complain about how fucked up this race is.

Also its Monday at 10 am Spain time.

www.americascup.com

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    take a good hard look at the mother fucking boat

    YEAH

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  • ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
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  • CrashmoCrashmo Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Sailboat

    racing?

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  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I'm with Alinghi

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Doodmann wrote: »

    It's kind of a big deal. Anyway, who do you think is going to win?

    The Swiss

    AlinghiSailingday1.jpg

    Look at these guys, they can fly.

    The swiss no contest.

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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Oh I guess I should mention some other stuff:

    I'm pulling for BMW
    I think that they are allowed to use motor winches is bullshit
    These are some of the coolest boats ever made
    I want my normal America's Cup back

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    Whippy wrote: »
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  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I just realized my picture for Oracle is out of date. I forgot about the goddamn wing.

    http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/pdfs/ttsthemonster2.pdf

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    Whippy wrote: »
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  • Burden of ProofBurden of Proof You three boys picked a beautiful hill to die on. Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Doodmann wrote: »
    It's kind of a big deal.

    Don't lie to me

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Blaket wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »

    It's kind of a big deal. Anyway, who do you think is going to win?

    The Swiss

    AlinghiSailingday1.jpg

    Look at these guys, they can fly.

    The swiss no contest.


    It took me a few seconds for my brain to parse what was going on in this picture.

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  • STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Doodmann wrote: »
    It's kind of a big deal.

    Don't lie to me

    Lie to me.

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  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I wish the Cup was limited to single-hulls.

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  • UmaroUmaro Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    As someone completely unfamiliar with modern seafaring

    that is a HELL of a boat. It doesn't even look like a boat. It's like a pontoon fucked a mermaid.

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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Weaver wrote: »
    I wish the Cup was limited to single-hulls.

    It's supposed to be. Blame Alinghi for trying to mess with the rules which lead to litigation which inevitably leads to using the 1871 deed of gift which means each team can do whatever they want.

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    Whippy wrote: »
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  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Weaver wrote: »
    I wish the Cup was limited to single-hulls.

    It's supposed to be. Blame Alinghi for trying to mess with the rules which lead to litigation which inevitably leads to using the 1871 deed of gift which means each team can do whatever they want.

    Look, I know Bertarelli is a dick but be damned if the man doesn't put together a team of the best sailors in the world.

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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Weaver wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Weaver wrote: »
    I wish the Cup was limited to single-hulls.

    It's supposed to be. Blame Alinghi for trying to mess with the rules which lead to litigation which inevitably leads to using the 1871 deed of gift which means each team can do whatever they want.

    Look, I know Bertarelli is a dick but be damned if the man doesn't put together a team of the best sailors in the world.

    Putting together a good team is one thing, he wanted a 6 month or 1 year head start on designing the boat over everyone else. No one is going to try and out monopolize the American's.

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    Whippy wrote: »
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  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I used to race on a Cal 27 those were fun times

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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I'm a die hard match racer so this is my favorite thing to watch.

    edit* I found a better live feed

    http://espn.go.com/broadband/espn360/player?gameId=&sportCode=&league=

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  • IpseDixitIpseDixit Treat me like a pirate And give me that bootyRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Weaver wrote: »
    I used to race on a Cal 27 those were fun times

    I uh went kayaking once

    Oh! My dad has a canoe

    We've never used it

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    edited February 2010
    The user and all related content has been deleted.

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  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    taking a race off of crewing and helping on the committee boat

    borrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrring

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  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    the crackeriest thread
    I'm sick of your disingenuous assertions.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Rolo wrote: »
    Blaket wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »

    It's kind of a big deal. Anyway, who do you think is going to win?

    The Swiss

    AlinghiSailingday1.jpg

    Look at these guys, they can fly.

    The swiss no contest.


    It took me a few seconds for my brain to parse what was going on in this picture.


    THE STUFF THAT MAKES THE WRIGHT BROTHERS HARD.

    FLIGHT

    THAT IS WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS PICTURE.

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    isn't it kind of weird that this is basically an engineering contest and not a sailing contest now?

    I mean, there's a time and a place

    but the America's Cup doesn't seem like the one

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    It has been for a while I think, although before it was more of an engineering while skirting the rules one (pretty much like formula 1 with less dying, I guess)

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    the "with less dying" part is why fewer people are watching it

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    isn't it kind of weird that this is basically an engineering contest and not a sailing contest now?

    I mean, there's a time and a place

    but the America's Cup doesn't seem like the one

    It still takes skill to win it though.

    I mean if you stuck me on the fastest boat in the world I can tell you it's not going to go very fast.

    It's like any sport, you surround yourself with the best possible materials to help you do the job.

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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Back in the day, it didn't really matter how the ship was built, I guess?

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I think it was more people didn't really take it to the nth degree.

    Once people started earning decent money through sponsorship people could take some cash and make their boat faster.

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  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I'd much rather the Cup be a one design race. If not that, then at least single hull. I'm all for innovation in sailing, but something seems...wrong about it in regards to the Cup.

    Also, motorized winches are bullshit in a race like this. Hell, a few years ago people's panties got in a twist because one boat had grinders using their legs on almost a bike like set up.

    I'll still follow, but the fact that it has become a very "send in the lawyers!" mentality has left a foul taste in my mouth.


    That being said....I have the option to buy the boat my father and I have been racing for about 15 years. A Capri 22. I'm tempted, so so very fucking tempted. Needs about 2 grand worth of sails, but beyond that it's in outstanding condition.

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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    how awesome is it when the start gets postponed because there's no wind.

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  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Bobbing around out in the baking sun for 2 hours with no wind while you wait for the committee to cancel the race. Tempers reaching well beyond acceptable norms.

    Yep. Awesome.

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  • vermiculturevermiculture Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I took a sailing class once. It was the day they were learning how to properly capsize your boat. For me (someone who is about as graceful in the water as a land tortoise), getting trapped under the sail was one of the most terrifying events I can remember.

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  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    It's a bit scary for people who are used to it too, Vermi.

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  • vermiculturevermiculture Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    oh i believe it. I got nothing but respect for people who can make those boats go crazy fast and do those crazy 'tip the boat on it's side as far as it will go' stunt. I don't know much about sailing.

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  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Actually, getting knocked over doesn't take that much skill. It's not getting screwed because of it that takes a little work.

    As nice a picture as a heeling sailboat makes, too much heel means that the boat isn't moving nearly as efficiently as it should be. There's a sweet spot of sorts that you're kinda aiming for. Not too flat and not too "oh god, hold on."

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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
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  • Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    went sailin with rank, his wife and her dad

    a good time

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  • DrZiplockDrZiplock Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    There's a fun little rule that states you need to finish the race with the same people that you started the race with. It's to prevent...well...people being left behind by over eager captains if they fall overboard.

    My dad and I used to get really into it while we were racing from time to time. Lots of yelling and use of "boat language". Well, one particular afternoon we were in an extremely close race and we had been pissing each other off for the better part of a few hours. We're barreling down towards the finish line, looks like we're going to win and whoooops...I simply stepped off the boat. He crossed the line without me and was disqualified.

    Committee boat gave me a ride back to shore and I had to call my mother to come pick me up. Riding home with dad would have been ill advised.

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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    For the first hundred years of so the cup was an engineering contest. It wasn't until the late 70s / early 80s hat everyone go serious and the rules really started getting standardized. It is much more fun to watch when the boats are similar, which was the direction it's been going from 1997 till 2007 when alinghi fucked everything up and pissed off the new york yacht club.

    2007's race had more lead changes than all the other cup challenges combined.

    edit* also zip, falling off the boat ain't no thing. Just means you were trying hard, you should have got mad at the crew for not picking you back up. Talk about pressure, I fell out while hiking off the mainsheet in the semifinals of a youth world championship. Thank god the dude next to me weight about twice as much as me and just hauled me back in the boat before I really left.

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