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Hung up on her past

AltimusMaximusAltimusMaximus Registered User new member
edited February 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
I never thought I'd be making one of these, writing my problem also helps me feel better by getting it out there.

My girl of one year and I (both in our late twenties) recently had a conversation in which I asked her how many guys she slept with. It was a lot. Me... I really haven't slept with any girls. This was a long time ago, she changed a lot since then. She truly is a new person now, and she told me that she'd understand if I was upset, but she can't undo her past.

I know this, her past is past. She changed. It doesn't change how I feel about her, but since last friday my mind has been wondering so many other things about her prior life. This morning she said to me when she noticed I was still hung up on it "I have a sad past, but I'm a new person now, my past made me into who I am today. But please, don't ask me any more about it"

My mind is racing with questions, I'm a little depressed. I want to ask her, but I'm afraid it might just depress me further and prevent me from seeing the beautiful things in her life today. But I'm equally afraid of not knowing what else she has done (for some irrational reason I feel that I need to know, even if it hurts me).

HA, I could use some advice. I know this sounds like a childish issue, considering that a lot of you come from very liberal countries... but it's a big issue for me. How can I get over this?

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    If you can't deal with it, break up.

    Otherwise, get the fuck over it. She's with you now. End of story. Unless she has exes calling her every 5 minutes, she's moved on. Dwelling on it will only push her away.

    :edit: To clarify, her past has no bearing on your future. Having her tell you about it more will only focus your already apparent insecurities into little white hot points that burn away until you sabotage the relationship because you can't handle it.

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  • MushroomStickMushroomStick Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Watch Chasing Amy.

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  • badpoetbadpoet Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Focus on the important thing: you and her together. You're going to have to let go, and if you can't, you'll probably have to let her go. Find out what's triggering your interest spikes in this (is it things she said, things you see on TV, etc) and do your best to "change the subject" in your head by focusing on your current relationship instead of her past.

    In the end, it doesn't matter how many partners people have had. Once you truly figure that out, you'll be fine.

    Also, watch Chasing Amy :)

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    If she doesn't have any diseases, it doesn't affect you.

    The only way it might is if her past behavior isn't totally in the "past."

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2010
    Get over it and move on. It doesn't matter how many people someone has had sex with before they got to you, so as long as she doesn't have any diseases what difference does it make? Sounds more like it's made ou feel a bit insecure because now you're mentally comparing how many notches you've both made on your bedposts and think it actually means something.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    You're hung up on her changing... and for the better?

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Are you hung up on her past because you're concerned she'll go back to it? Or are you jealous because you haven't had that sort of wild and crazy party life?

    I think getting to the bottom of why you're feeling upset about this is an important step in getting over it, you have to acknowledge what you're feeling and accept it before you can accept her. And once you've done so, you absolutely have to let it lie - you can't be bringing it up when you fight or when you're trying to work through other relationship issues.

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  • NeadenNeaden Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    You're hung up on her changing... and for the better?
    Seriously. To me there are pretty much three things that make your partners history a valid concern. 1. You were planning on not having sex until marriage and you want a spouse who has done the same. 2. She has VD 3. She has a child. If none of these are true then why does it matter?

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  • WileyWiley In the dirt.Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I have to agree that this is your problem, not hers. You have to figure out quickly if you can live with it and either accept who she used to be, and how that has helped her become the person you are with now, or let her go. For what its worth, I have a friend who had slept with over 25 guys in a few short years and in the end she is a much better person overall than the friend who only slept with two. Its just a physical action, its the emotional part that counts.

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  • CrowlestonCrowleston Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    The past is the past. If you think about it I'm sure theres some stuff you don't want your SO to know about you either.

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  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    If you can't deal with it, break up.

    Otherwise, get the fuck over it. She's with you now. End of story.

    These are your options. They are both equally valid options.

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Usagi wrote: »
    Are you hung up on her past because you're concerned she'll go back to it? Or are you jealous because you haven't had that sort of wild and crazy party life?

    I think getting to the bottom of why you're feeling upset about this is an important step in getting over it, you have to acknowledge what you're feeling and accept it before you can accept her. And once you've done so, you absolutely have to let it lie - you can't be bringing it up when you fight or when you're trying to work through other relationship issues.

    It's not all that rare, from my experience. I had it happen when I first started dating my wife. She was my first, but she had a couple of guys before me. It's completely irrational, but it almost feels like she cheated on you before she met you. You just imagine this person you love with these other people.

    To the OP, honestly, you're probably better off not knowing. Just wrap it all up in "Things She Did Before We Met" and throw it away. Like I mentioned, I was going through something similar, and I finally one day just decided that I was going to get over it, and I did. I don't really subscribe to the idea a lot of people around here do that whatever happened in her past is none of your business, but ultimately you have to decide if you want to dwell on it. You can't change it, so at this point does it really matter? She's with you now.

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  • AltimusMaximusAltimusMaximus Registered User new member
    edited February 2010
    Usagi wrote: »
    Are you hung up on her past because you're concerned she'll go back to it? Or are you jealous because you haven't had that sort of wild and crazy party life?

    I think getting to the bottom of why you're feeling upset about this is an important step in getting over it, you have to acknowledge what you're feeling and accept it before you can accept her. And once you've done so, you absolutely have to let it lie - you can't be bringing it up when you fight or when you're trying to work through other relationship issues.

    It's not all that rare, from my experience. I had it happen when I first started dating my wife. She was my first, but she had a couple of guys before me. It's completely irrational, but it almost feels like she cheated on you before she met you. You just imagine this person you love with these other people.

    To the OP, honestly, you're probably better off not knowing. Just wrap it all up in "Things She Did Before We Met" and throw it away. Like I mentioned, I was going through something similar, and I finally one day just decided that I was going to get over it, and I did. I don't really subscribe to the idea a lot of people around here do that whatever happened in her past is none of your business, but ultimately you have to decide if you want to dwell on it. You can't change it, so at this point does it really matter? She's with you now.

    Thank you.

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  • strategerystrategery Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    My now fiance and I had a similar situation. she found out through a mutual acquaintance my sexual past and freaked out over it. She had only slept with a handful of guys, but I have slept with a ton of women. But, like your girl, I changed. I realized it made me depressed due to not having a real tangible relationship to make the sex have any meaning outside of a little fun.

    After explaining everything she agreed that what happened in the past deserves to stay in the past. You should too. It's the healthiest thing you can do, because she has already realized and corrected her problem. You, on the other hand, are hung up on something you can't change when you need to be looking at what's important. She's with you. Yes she may have slept with a considerable amount of guys, but she's with you. Nobody else. And that's all that matters.

    Never let your mind focus on the past, because you can't do anything about it.

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  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Watch Chasing Amy.

    I think this is the best advice in the thread.

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  • HoovesHooves Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I used to have a girlfriend that would get crushes on other dudes and had no problem telling me about it. I was actually glad she was open enough to share it with me because it meant there was less of a chance of something happening but it did make me jealous at times so here's what I did:

    rather than obsess about the places her mind is going I focused on my own thoughts and behaviors as in: do I sometimes get crushes on other girls? yes. do I fantasize about them sexually? yes. does this mean that I don't love my girlfriend or that I am likely to cheat on her? no. Realizing this made all those jealous insecure feelings disappear.

    I'm pretty sure there's advice pertaining to your situation in there somewhere. If it doesn't help I'm sorry it's the only thing I could come up with.

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  • HoovesHooves Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    also don't watch chasing amy, it is bad.

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  • TheUnsane1TheUnsane1 PhiladelphiaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Hooves wrote: »
    also don't watch chasing amy, it is bad.

    Man what??

    Anyway as some one who in the past has been obsessed with wanting to know everything about my gf I have learned with time that not everyone is willing to just give what ever information people want to know up. It was jarring to me at first because I really have a nothing to hide from the person I am in a relationship with attitude. Wanna look thru my phone? go nuts. Wanna know how many girls I was with before you? sure.

    Thing is if you love the person you are with you don't need any more information to process.

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  • KathrisKathris __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2010
    I have the same issues you do. My girlfriend has mentioned tons of things, including a miscarriage when she was 17. I did ALOT of searching online and found the following post which I reread every now and again to help me get over the feelings. I'm still deciding if I can live with it or not. Maybe this post will help, maybe it wont. It's a matter of how strong you are, how much you love her, and if you can trust her. I always fall back on, If her past had been different, then she wouldnt be here with me now.

    Anyway, post below, hope it helps.


    ----
    I know where you are coming from. I'm constantly bothered by my girlfriend's sexual past: even today, a year into the relationship. I just cannot seem to stop it from affecting me.

    If I see one of her partners (I'll call them that even though she never had sex), I too feel enough urge to kill them with my bare hands. Its sad, but its a reality that many people like us have to face.

    And then there's the folks who are bystanders, saying "get over it", and "it's just the past... she's with you now."

    If only it was that easy.

    For some it will be, but for others, it may never be. If I did not love my girlfriend then I would have left her a year ago.

    And do I have double standards? No. In fact, I was never sexually involved with anyone before my girlfriend.

    I think I'm heading too far into my tale, so I'll skip that for now.

    The point is you have two options.

    One, leave you're girlfriend. Is she worth the suffering? What is it about her that keeps you with her? Is it you're attraction to her, despite how her past affects you, or is it because basically has a controlling grasp on you.

    Or two, stay with you're girlfriend. Within this option, you also have two options. You can either tell you're girlfriend about you're problem, or you can try to hide it the best as possible.

    In retrospect, I cannot say whether or not I made a good choice by telling my girlfriend about how I felt. We've been through a lot of problems because of it. Was it worth it? I don't know. But on the other hand, I kept honest and clean with her and told her how I felt. Unfortunately, it wasn't exactly good. So ultimately, its up to you. If you decide to stay with you're girlfriend, you have to make the decision to tell her or not. Think long and hard about it, too.

    Whether or not you should stay with you're girlfriend depends on how commited the two of you are to each other, how you like (or love) her, and if she's worth the suffering.

    The images in you're mind will never dissapear. Never. They will always be there. The only thing you can try to do is tough it out and ignore them. I'm currently in that process. They may come and go, and they will most definetely bombard you when you want them to the least.

    The only thing you can do is try to think of other things when they come. Sometimes, however, the images and pain may be to intense and strong to overcome. But, if you can think positively (think of good times you had with you're girlfriend, or an interest/hobby). Or even do something else. Get up and exercise. Something to distract you're attention.

    Right now, I've accepted that my girlfriend has a past. I cannot change it. You cannot change you're girlfriend's past either. That's a concrete fact never to be changed. Its just that I am bothered by what went on. And no, I do not think of what she did myself. I don't bring it on myself.

    The bottom line is this will cause you massive problems unless you get over it -- or her. ---

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  • HypatiaHypatia Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    You can look at it another way too, she slept with a lot of guys so you know she knows what's out there, and knowing that she chose you. You are better than all of those guys, and she knows, because she's been there. She's made her choice, and you're the best one! :D

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  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Kathris wrote: »

    The images in you're mind will never dissapear. Never. They will always be there. The only thing you can try to do is tough it out and ignore them. I'm currently in that process. They may come and go, and they will most definetely bombard you when you want them to the least.

    Pay this part no mind. It's a steaming pile of goose nestled in an otherwise helpful post. Shit fades and is forgotten.

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2010
    Watch Chasing Amy.

    I think this is the best advice in the thread.


    D-DOUBLE LIME.

    Unless she's got some horrible disease from her promiscuous times or is fucking around behind your back, then put it out of your head.

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  • DsmartDsmart Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I hope she breaks up with you, prick

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2010
    OP, you'll probably forget all of it in due time.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    So, she's slept with a ton of other guys, and has decided that she wants to be with you?

    And you're taking some kind of offense to this? If anything, it's a pretty big complement.

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Watch Chasing Amy.

    Yep.

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  • SipexSipex Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Lots of good advice here.

    Remember though, she did all that in the past and in the end has chosen to stay with you.

    That alone must say something about you and how she feels.

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  • LintillaLintilla Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Can I ask how old you guys are? People go through some major changes between highschool and college and then again between college and "the real world." (And also, I hear when they hit their 40's!) It's not the same for everyone, but it's totally worth considering. I bet you know tons of people who got really different after they went off to school or whatever, maybe that will help give you some non-sexy things to think about?

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  • SipexSipex Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Lintilla wrote: »
    Can I ask how old you guys are? People go through some major changes between highschool and college and then again between college and "the real world." (And also, I hear when they hit their 40's!) It's not the same for everyone, but it's totally worth considering. I bet you know tons of people who got really different after they went off to school or whatever, maybe that will help give you some non-sexy things to think about?

    Late 20s according to the first post.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I think it's fine to point out that there's a difference between having it bother you and simply being curious. Like, my wife and I have had about the same number of partners, and it's certainly not a big number, but I was still curious about what she had done. Not in a jealous way, just in a "look, I like you a lot, I think you're cool, and I know those are usually memorable events." Lots of people talk about their first sexual experiences, or notable things that happened, or really terrible/comical sexual experiences, and I think it's fair to be curious about that and want to talk about it.

    But if it bugs you in a jealous way, then yeah, you just have to get over it, and in that case it probably is best to not bring it up because talking about it will just bring back your jealousy.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited February 2010
    Don't be that guy. Let it go. If you can't let it go, if you want to punch somebody every time you think about something she did before you knew her, then break up with her because she probably deserves better than someone who can't accept her because of things she did before she met you that she no longer does now that she knows you.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    She's over her past, so you should be too.

    EDIT: To try and put things in perspective, consider that she did all of these things before she met you and she chose to be with you and not do them anymore. Not only that, but she's perfectly comfortable with letting you know that she's a new person. If anything, I'd take it as a complement.

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    While I never doubted being with someone based on their past, I admit I had my hangups, particularly in regards to partners who were... experienced, especially compared to their age.

    With time, I got over it and myself. What's past is past, aside from the aforementioned major issues (children, std's, etc).

    It's not easy, and it takes a lot of soul searching, but worst case scenario you can't take it and end things, and both of you move on with your lives. It's important between you two, and obviously needs working on, but at the same time, it's not the end of the world. Either you can get past it or it becomes a dealbreaker. Just work it out, talk with someone you trust about your thoughts and feelings.

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  • mullymully Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I don't know. The "don't ask me any more about it" raises some big flags, to me. A relationship should be open - open to discussion of any and all things, ESPECIALLY ones past. So her saying this makes me wonder - was she cheating? Did she have several lovers at one time and none of them knew about the other? That is dangerous. I know everyone is being all "ohh she's with you now hurrayyy" and that may be true - but I would still be curious, and you have a right to know about who she was - and may still be whenever your back is turned.

    I'm sorry to be a debbie-downer here but I've seen this happen to friends before. It's great to be optimistic but it's smart to be realistic and ask the right questions - if you think you can handle them. Of course you may not get honest answers, either. I've seen this happen as well.

    To whomever said "she's over her past so you should be too" - some people like to pretend to be "over" or "past" things that they know they ought to be ashamed of, or moreso, that they know OTHER people would not respect. I have done some terrible things in my life that I am ashamed of and I will never be past them - how can you be past such a large lesson in life - but they are certainly ALWAYS up for discussion with my SO.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Gee, she has shared about a part of her life she seems to regret to the point of having taken step to change in, this guy is freaking out over who she used to be, and you think him probing for more details is a good thing? More details would fuck this guy up so, so hard.
    And so what if she had multiple lovers at one time, how is that dangerous? Christ, how would you feel if someone used to be a heroin addict but kicked it, got her shit together, and had been clean for 7 years? omg horrible person don't date them?

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  • mullymully Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Look, honesty is important to me so I am speaking from my perspective. I don't expect you (random attack-y guy) nor the OP to see in the same way but my help and or advice came out the way it did. Honesty is important, and if you want a long-term relationship I think it's important to know who you're with. Wouldn't you agree?

    What you've said here reminds me of someone plugging their ears and singing "LA LA LA LA" because they don't want to hear anything that might make them feel differently. Naive, in my opinion. If you can't work through someone's past issues with them, and come out understanding and trusting, then how the heck are you going to deal with FUTURE issues?

    It's dangerous because habits tend to repeat. The heroin thing is a bit different, though at least if you knew and your SO started acting really strangely, you'd know how to approach it. Also, that's 7 years - and a different scenario.

    Let's agree to disagree but agree that everything is dependant on perspective and scenarios. Yes yes?

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  • HalfmexHalfmex I mock your value system You also appear foolish in the eyes of othersRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I'm not going to lime it all but I'm in full agreement with Mully on this one. Advice in these situations so often tends to be polarized - "Man, get the fuck over it, she's with you now" and "It'll always bug you, best to bail now". It is never that simple, as is true with pretty much any situation in life.

    A good partner in a relationship should absolutely be able to feel comfortable telling you about their past, because, if it is a serious relationship with long-term goals, you are going to be sharing your future together. A person's past makes them who they are, so it is only logical that their partner would want to know all about them, good or bad. Hiding any part of it only serves to breed resentment and uncertainty. That said, as others have said, OP, your options are pretty clear-cut: try to forget it (if it works for you, then fine, though it may not and you'll need to pursue it further) or try to have a long talk with your partner and see if she is indeed willing to be more forthcoming with you about her past. At the very least, perhaps she'd be willing to explain why she's so reticent to go into detail.

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  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Mully,

    I think the point here (and this isn't in defense of any specific post or poster) is that anxieties are common and to a certain point expected. More importantly, though, one should base conclusions on contextual facts rather than subjective views of the "past".

    If the OP has been happy for a year, what has changed? The introduction of an external situation which may or may not have an effect. Only communication and action will determine if it is important.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2010
    mully wrote: »
    I don't know. The "don't ask me any more about it" raises some big flags, to me. A relationship should be open - open to discussion of any and all things, ESPECIALLY ones past. So her saying this makes me wonder - was she cheating? Did she have several lovers at one time and none of them knew about the other? That is dangerous. I know everyone is being all "ohh she's with you now hurrayyy" and that may be true - but I would still be curious, and you have a right to know about who she was - and may still be whenever your back is turned.

    Or maybe she already had a relationship fall apart over not accepting her past, and doesn't want that to happen with this one. Dwelling on this shit, and second-guessing everything she says is only going to lead down a path of ruin. Either you start hating her for her past, or she resents you for obsessing about it so much.

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  • mullymully Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    The choice of accepting her past or not should be his, not hers. (That sounds strange to say out loud, but I mean, in a relationship, one person chooses the other and their qualities and flaws, the whole package. You know what I mean.) If he can, then more power to him and that's AWESOME; but he should be able to make that choice after knowing the complete truth from her. I'm not saying that everyone with a past they are ashamed of/don't want to share is a terrible human being/unable to change/untrustworthy - FAR from it - but it's something to consider, that's all.

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