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Video Game Sales Thread February: All done here, go to the next one
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Hi! Welcome to the sales thread. Here we talk about how games have sold, marketing, PR comments, analysis of analysts and all kinds of other business-related stuff. Occasionally we make poop jokes.
To kick things off, here's the most awesome thing ever that EA needs to finally unveil RIGHT NOW.
And now, January's info.
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PlayStation 2 41.6K
PlayStation 3 276.9K
PSP 100.1K
Xbox 360 332.8K
Wii 465.8K
Nintendo DS 422.2K
To kick things off, here's the most awesome thing ever that EA needs to finally unveil RIGHT NOW.
And now, January's info.
Data care of NPD Group
PlayStation 2 41.6K
PlayStation 3 276.9K
PSP 100.1K
Xbox 360 332.8K
Wii 465.8K
Nintendo DS 422.2K
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I'm not honestly sure what Sony could do to fix the PSP situation.
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The PSP is not a poop joke! It's a boner joke.
Finally gave in and DL Capcom Classic Collection Reloaded last night. I really don't understand why the PSP is failing this hard. It's a good system, has good games, and you can get stuff from PSN. What the hell is the problem?
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Well it isn't dead or anything. It needs a killer app for the western world. I just don't see anyone jumping at the chance to make that app.
Not in this generation. Software sales have been in the toilet for three years now, and Sony's big push to reinvigorate the system, the PSP Go, was a disaster. Even the inexplicably high hardware sales have been dropping lately. Any other big push will probably be ignored now that people have trained themselves to largely ignore it.
Really the only chance Sony has of getting people interested in it again is to release a full-fledged PSP2, but even then it's dicey due to Nintendo's dominance. And Sony might not be able to release a new system for some time because it's doing well in Japan.
Edit: And I think the PSP's problem was that Sony didn't really make it a compelling portable gaming experience rather just than a smaller PS2. It turns out people don't want a smaller PS2. And all the multimedia capabilities did was encourage piracy, maybe partially because Sony was so strict with the formats.
It wasn't until the PSN went full bore on the classic PS1 releases that I decided I wanted one, and for nothing more than downloading games off PSN for it.
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This, so hard. I'm walking around with FFVII and FFVIII in my damn pocket. How do people not see this as anything other than awesome?
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That's not out in America? It's been out in Europe for a while.
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It's not going to last very long.
Nope, they've so far decided it wasn't right for the american audience.
It's one of the biggest things I'm mad at Nintendo about, but they can't make up a bit by giving us a localization date for Last Window.
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Did we ever lean much about PSP hardware sales in the EU? I guess Nintendo put out PSP/DS comparison charts.
Anyway, it would be interesting to see the HW/SW ratio in both the US and the EU to see if it's similar but I'm sure we have not near enough info.
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More or less. I blame a lot of it on the iPod Video and iPod Touch really. You see during the period after launch and before good games started coming out for the thing it was a pretty nifty video player with a widescreen and yet still small enough to carry around comfortably. But eventually Apple came around and stole even that tiny part of the market away.
PSP games by and large aren't advertised.
Don't have online play out of the box.
Still has the negative perception of being for teenagers only.
Still seen as too expensive.
It will take a friggin miracle to unseat Nintendo as the king of the handheld. Especially even with some of the great stuff PSP has gotten, DS is still the go to system for Puzzle games, Old school retro revivals, harcore castlevania, and RPGs.
PSP just can't compete.
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Considering that I picked up a PSP far enough back so that there were no PS1 classics available (a specific reason I bought the system) and traded it in for a DS shortly after it was announced you'd have to have a PS3 to even play the non-existent classics, I'd say the PSP's biggest problems are still momentum and price. It had shit-all to play for ages, a terrible game "cartridge", terrible battery life, had a system overhaul, and is still almost 100 bucks more than a DSi and ~$130 more than a DS Lite. If Sony had launched the system with the classics, particularly something like FF7, available, they could've really gotten somewhere. Instead, they bungled it horribly by alternating between ignoring it, taking ages to get anything on it, and cutting the balls off of it by locking down the system and preventing you from do rad things with it.
In comparison, the DS was not only an improvement on the GBA with the backlit screen, it also had a much better form factor than the PSP and access to a number of great GBA games from the start. And a not-idiotic cartridge system. And a good battery life. And a far better price.
The PSP has been down so long that nobody wants to bother with it because they know it's only a matter of time before it gets discontinued. Someone could buy a new PSP Go with nothing else OR they could buy a new DS Lite/DSi and a handful of games. I think I've seen PSPs in public maybe a half-dozen times since they were released, but I see DSes all the time among both kids and adults. Who wants to pay extra for a system which almost nobody they know will play?
Yeah, I want this so bad. And when the PSP 2 comes out and I can buy one for $30, I'll get one.
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Wait, wait, wait - you HAVE to have a PS3 to get any of the PS1 titles? Jesus that's retarded.
If so that ruins the only reason I want a PSP, since I can't justify buying a PS3 right now.
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Or you needed to go through a PC only program and transfer over USB. No Mac version though.
Fixed ages ago.
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It's just that Sony don't know how to market it.
They should try again, just focus on the 3000. And target the RPG crowd.
PSP gets B titles and PS2 ports, and the occasional SE title.
I bought mine when FFT and Dracula X came out.
Yeah, it was announced to be that way before the PS3 release and then later changed.
Again, a brilliant strategy to promote sales; you only needed to drop 600 bucks on another piece of hardware to play games from another piece of hardware a decade old on another piece of hardware which was capable of playing the games on its own but Sony wanted to jam more copy-protection in there and try to force PS3 sales.
Nintendo, on the other hand, went "This is DS, it plays games! Buy it!" It's pretty obvious what the superior strategy was.
The PSP now is a whole different beast than when it was released. I bought it right after release and it was just a constant onslaught of features getting crippled, firmware updates, and getting told to wait longer for PS1 game functionality. If the PSP which exists now had been sold then or even waited a couple years for release, it would've been an actual DS competitor.
Gotta disagree there. PSP is the system for hardcore Castlevania (Rondo of Blood + Symphony of the Night + Castlevania Chronicles), whereas DS is the system for new Castlevania. RPGs is about 50/50 with several great RPG exclusives on both the PSP & DS (DS has more, but I'd say the PSP offerings tend to be better overall, plus they have PSOne Classics to help out). Puzzle games are equal as well - DS has lots of puzzle games, but the PSP has Lumines, a cheaper Tetris, and Pixeljunk Monsters Deluxe. Old school retro revivals I can't speak of since the only one I can think of is Retro Game Challenge on the DS. Racing games are clearly in the PSP's court as are shmups (Gradius Collection + Metal Slug Collection + Super Stardust Portable). Music is about half and half - Ouendan (DS) is awesome but so is Rock Band Unplugged (PSP) & from what I hear, DJ Max (PSP). Old school graphic adventure games are obviously all about the DS.
In short, I'd say the PSP lineup is equal to the DS's lineup as far as quality goes (and personally, I prefer the PSP's library). The problem with the PSP now isn't the lineup, it's the momentum - after a great launch, it took a while for more good games to come out so the system got the impression as being devoid of must-haves. Plus, development costs were more expensive than the DS which didn't help things. Throw in a higher system price tag and a lack of price drops and it's easy to see why the system is where it is now.
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No slouch on difficulty, either.
There's so much replay value in every version, especially 2 and Clazziquai.
DS has The World Ends with You. The PSP has Half-Minute Hero. The DS has a bunch of mediocre Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy remakes. The PSP has some great Persona remakes, a great FFT remake, a mediocre Lunar remake, and PSOne Classics like FF7 & Suikoden. The DS has Devil Survivor. The PSP has Wild Arms XF and Jeanne D'arc. The DS has Pokemon. The PSP has Monster Hunter. The DS has a bunch of mediocre RPGs. The PSP has a bunch of mediocre RPGs.
Seems pretty even to me.
EDIT: The reason I haven't picked up DJ Max off the PSN is because it scares me. I look at replays and wonder how the game is even playable, it looks so hard. Rock Band Unplugged, on the other hand, is much more manageable.
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"Shouldn't be much more difficult." Then my fingers hurt a lot.
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't saying that the PSP was a slouch or anything, it's just that so much quality stuff has been put into the DS, that the plethora of games from several genres just outclasses what the PSP has.
I mean the PSP has War of the Lions, one of the single greatest things Square has made with the Final Fantasy name on it, but then on the other hand the DS has it's own original FFTactics.
The PSP has been great with ports/upgrades of old Castlevania games, but if you want new, it's on the DS. Racing you can have, if it's not Burnout and/or Mario Kart, I'm not interested.
I guess like you said, in a way it evens out the awesome between the two. I want a PSP soon, hopefully, if only for the classic stuff on PSN and the two Mega Man upgrades, which look awesome....oh and Dissidia. :P
edit: The Dragon Quest/Final Fantasy remakes are anything but mediocre....where did you get that they were mediocre?
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I don't know about "most people," but that's what happened to me. FFT redo (now with readable dialogue, apparently) and Ace Combat X were enough to sell me on the system.
Right now, I have a DS to play Chrono Trigger and FF6 portably. I barely even know what else is on the DS since so much of it is Mario rehash and niche Japanese games, but at least Nintendo didn't kick me in the balls for deciding to buy the system.