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Parking + Property question

BeltaineBeltaine BOO BOO DOO DE DOORegistered User regular
edited February 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
So, here's my house.

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I'd like to show you the whole thing but my neighbor has recently decided that his shit belongs parked in front of my house.

I can no longer get to my mailbox via my car, it's on the verge of blocking the fire hydrant, and it's just fucking annoying to have someone else's shit parked in front my house. Especially since he obviously has plenty of room in his own driveway for his shit.

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I've never spoken to, or been spoken to by this neighbor. Best I can tell, my neighbor is a single mother and whoever the latest boyfriend is is the one doing the parking.

I don't want to be _that_ neighbor and get into a big ordeal by saying something to them personally. I had hoped it was just a temporary thing, but it obviously is not. It's a public street, so is there anything I can do about it anyway?

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2010
    Just go ask if they can not park in front of your mailbox. It doesn't sound like you're on super-close terms with them anyway.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    There was recently a thread about this very issue.

    General consensus seemed to be that it was a public street, people could park wherever they wanted, and you should just try talking to your neighbor.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2010
    Just go ask her to have any visitors park in front of her house instead of yours.

    My mom/stepdad are having this problem right now with people that just moved into their neighborhood, actually. They seem to want to park in front of everyone's house but theirs. Funny stories have resulted.

    I mean, there is nothing that can be truly legally enforced (nobody appears to have a handicap parking spot), but parking in front of other people's houses when you have the room to park in front of the one you are going into is considered bad etiquette.

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  • LailLail Surrey, B.C.Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    My city has a by-law (or had at least) that said someone could park infront of your house for up to, I believe, six hours. After that you could phone by-law enforcement and they'd either ticket them or tow them. Check your city's by-laws...they should be online.

    In the mean time, start parking infront of their mailbox. :P

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  • BeltaineBeltaine BOO BOO DOO DE DOORegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Had actually considered parking in front of their mailbox. Or just parking where they've been parking for a few days and hope they get the idea. Will check with the local LEO tomorrow.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Beltaine wrote: »
    Had actually considered parking in front of their mailbox. Or just parking where they've been parking for a few days and hope they get the idea. Will check with the local LEO tomorrow.

    Silly goose. Stop being passive aggressive and just walk over there and ask them nicely to not park in front of your mailbox. Other than that, there's nothing you can do.

    EDIT: If you try to involve the law somehow, it's going to be VERY obvious who did it and you're just going to have pissy neighbors across the street. How is that any better?

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  • BeltaineBeltaine BOO BOO DOO DE DOORegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Hehe, you're asking someone who anonymously posted a rant with pictures on an internet forum to not be passive aggressive. :P

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Beltaine wrote: »
    Hehe, you're asking someone who anonymously posted a rant with pictures on an internet forum to not be passive aggressive. :P

    Ok, well, go make your neighbors really upset with you. It's your life.

    EDIT: The only reason to get the law involved is if you've exhausted all other options or there's a possibility of endangerment. Neither of these is the case. You're going to come off as a complete silly goose (and not in a funny way) to your neighbors if you can't muster some backbone and go talk to them.

    Seriously, what has the world come to?

    DOUBLE EDIT: Wait, rereading the OP, he's not actually blocking anything. You can still get to your mailbox (just not from your car?) and he's "ALMOST" blocking the fire hydrant? I could see saying something if he was somehow preventing you from doing something, but he's not. He's just parking on a public street.

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  • scrivenerjonesscrivenerjones Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I don't get it, why do you want to drive to your mailbox from your house

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Right, he can't drive up to his mailbox to get his mail (which his neighbor probably does, which is why she probably asked her boyfriend to park somewhere else in the first place).

    Anyway, it's a vehicle that's suddenly parked in front of your house, you have an idea who's it is but you're not really sure. All you need to do is go say to the neighbor: "Hey, hi, I'm [name], I live next door. I don't mean to introduce myself over this, but do you know who's truck that is in front of my house? It just showed up one day and I'm not really sure who's it is?" She says "it's my boyfriends" and you say "Oh, oh good, I was worried it was sketchy or something. That's a relief. Hey, could you ask him to park a little further from my mailbox? I tend to drive up to it to get my mail and I can't do that anymore. I feel bad asking but it is kind of a pain to come back out to get the mail after I get home."

    Thing is, since you've never really met the neighbor you don't know if she's a royal bitch or a nice person. Some people get offended if you ask anything of them -- others are very accommodating.

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  • Forbe!Forbe! Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Neighbors called the police on us for this when we moved into our new house, because we had a huge moving van in the drive, we had to park in the street.

    6 years later, my dad still hates them for this reason. So yeah, don't get anyone else involved unless you can't reason with them.

    "Hey, I can't get to my mailbox, could you not park it in front of it?" Its that easy.

    Subsequently, your front door looks about a whole 30 feet from your mailbox, so walking is always an option.

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt Stepped in it Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    He doesn't.

    However, being able to drive past your mailbox and grab your mail when, say, on the way home from work is convenient, and having somebody arbitrarily blocking it is annoying.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2010
    He doesn't.

    However, being able to drive past your mailbox and grab your mail when, say, on the way home from work is convenient, and having somebody arbitrarily blocking it is annoying.

    Having double checked the picture, his area also lacks sidewalks.

    So him getting asked to move it will be better than the mailman having it towed for blocking him from easily driving up and leaving the mail..

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2010
    You can't get to your mailbox from your car?

    I'm baffled. Why is that even a concern?

    There's not much to go on it terms of the general layout of the street, driveways, junctions etc. but from what I can see of those photos that car is parked very considerately. No where near the driveways I can see, plenty of clearance from the fire hydrant (what's the legal minimum distance you can park away from a fire hydrant?) and even a respectable distance from the mailbox (I presume that's your box to the left of the car). I mean, from your photographic evidence it actually looks like he's been very careful to find a place to park which avoids obstructing anything on the street.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2010
    You can't get to your mailbox from your car?

    I'm baffled. Why is that even a concern?

    There's not much to go on it terms of the general layout of the street, driveways, junctions etc. but from what I can see of those photos that car is parked very considerately. No where near the driveways I can see, plenty of clearance from the fire hydrant (what's the legal minimum distance you can park away from a fire hydrant?) and even a respectable distance from the mailbox (I presume that's your box to the left of the car). I mean, from your photographic evidence it actually looks like he's been very careful to find a place to park which avoids obstructing anything on the street.

    Note the gigantic space in the driveway and in front of her house in which to park his car.

    But it also looks like the same situation that I was in before I moved out - our house was the only one on the block without a driveway, and nobody apparently wanted to actually use their driveways, and all park in the street.

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  • Iceman.USAFIceman.USAF Major East CoastRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    If the dude is parked there during the time your mail is being delivered, you won't be getting your mail. A mail carrier (unless he's already on foot) isn't going to get out of their vehicle to place your stuff in your box, and there's no way he could pull up to your box with the truck there. I'd take that approach.

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  • Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    If the dude is parked there during the time your mail is being delivered, you won't be getting your mail. A mail carrier (unless he's already on foot) isn't going to get out of their vehicle to place your stuff in your box, and there's no way he could pull up to your box with the truck there. I'd take that approach.

    yeah this is truth

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2010
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    You can't get to your mailbox from your car?

    I'm baffled. Why is that even a concern?

    There's not much to go on it terms of the general layout of the street, driveways, junctions etc. but from what I can see of those photos that car is parked very considerately. No where near the driveways I can see, plenty of clearance from the fire hydrant (what's the legal minimum distance you can park away from a fire hydrant?) and even a respectable distance from the mailbox (I presume that's your box to the left of the car). I mean, from your photographic evidence it actually looks like he's been very careful to find a place to park which avoids obstructing anything on the street.

    Note the gigantic space in the driveway and in front of her house in which to park his car.

    But it also looks like the same situation that I was in before I moved out - our house was the only one on the block without a driveway, and nobody apparently wanted to actually use their driveways, and all park in the street.

    I can understand and respect not wishing to stack cars in a driveway and having to shuffle the deck every time someone needed to leave, especially when there's a huge empty street with ample parking.

    However, if what Iceman is saying is true, then I guess that might be a problem. A problem with the slovenly work culture of the USPS, but a problem which will affect the OP nonetheless.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2010
    The USPS is not slovenly, it's a safety issue and a time issue. If there are no sidewalks, it'd be too dangerous during inclement weather to attempt to walk in the snow on the ground to deliver, and if he has to get out and stop the engine for every mailbox that some guy parked in front of, he's going to fall way behind.

    I mean, there's a reason that they cut across yards to your next door neighbor when delivering mail. It's not because they are lazy, it's for time effectiveness.

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  • Iceman.USAFIceman.USAF Major East CoastRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    You can't get to your mailbox from your car?

    I'm baffled. Why is that even a concern?

    There's not much to go on it terms of the general layout of the street, driveways, junctions etc. but from what I can see of those photos that car is parked very considerately. No where near the driveways I can see, plenty of clearance from the fire hydrant (what's the legal minimum distance you can park away from a fire hydrant?) and even a respectable distance from the mailbox (I presume that's your box to the left of the car). I mean, from your photographic evidence it actually looks like he's been very careful to find a place to park which avoids obstructing anything on the street.

    Note the gigantic space in the driveway and in front of her house in which to park his car.

    But it also looks like the same situation that I was in before I moved out - our house was the only one on the block without a driveway, and nobody apparently wanted to actually use their driveways, and all park in the street.

    I can understand and respect not wishing to stack cars in a driveway and having to shuffle the deck every time someone needed to leave, especially when there's a huge empty street with ample parking.

    However, if what Iceman is saying is true, then I guess that might be a problem. A problem with the slovenly work culture of the USPS, but a problem which will affect the OP nonetheless.

    Indeed, at least in my part of the country this is true. If your mailbox is blocked, in disrepair, on insufficiently cleared (brush, snow, bees, etc) the mail carrier won't even stop. It's only gotten worse with the privatization of the USPS.

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  • scrivenerjonesscrivenerjones Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    If the dude is parked there during the time your mail is being delivered, you won't be getting your mail. A mail carrier (unless he's already on foot) isn't going to get out of their vehicle to place your stuff in your box, and there's no way he could pull up to your box with the truck there. I'd take that approach.

    yeah this is truth

    what the heck. mail carriers get out of the truck/van to deliver mail all the time.

    OP don't post in this thread again until you talk to the neighbor. if neighbor isn't accommodating then you can come back and ask for help in contacting the postmaster general or whatever.

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  • WileyWiley In the dirt.Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Just politely ask the neighbor if her visitor wouldn't park there.

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  • BeltaineBeltaine BOO BOO DOO DE DOORegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Aerial view via MSPaint. :P
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    And yes, in the afternoons, I get the mail on my way home from work. This probably also explains why I haven't gotten mail some days recently.

    The next day it's there that is an actual postal day, (Doesn't run on Sunday) I'll go knock on the door.

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    With a dead-end on the other side of it that fire hydrant is a pain in the ass to reach and there might be a local law saying you can't park within X feet of it.

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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    TNTrooper wrote: »
    With a dead-end on the other side of it that fire hydrant is a pain in the ass to reach and there might be a local law saying you can't park within X feet of it.

    I was thinking that, in some places you have to be up to 15 feet away.

    Obviously talk to the guy first, though.

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  • baudattitudebaudattitude Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    If you don't actually want to park there yourself, ask the city to paint the curb yellow.

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  • UnderdogUnderdog Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Fats wrote: »
    TNTrooper wrote: »
    With a dead-end on the other side of it that fire hydrant is a pain in the ass to reach and there might be a local law saying you can't park within X feet of it.

    I was thinking that, in some places you have to be up to 15 feet away.

    Obviously talk to the guy first, though.

    Yeah it's 5 metres in Canada. Talking would be best. Who knows, they might just move it without a hassle.

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  • Iceman.USAFIceman.USAF Major East CoastRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Beltaine wrote: »
    Aerial view via MSPaint. :P
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    And yes, in the afternoons, I get the mail on my way home from work. This probably also explains why I haven't gotten mail some days recently.

    The next day it's there that is an actual postal day, (Doesn't run on Sunday) I'll go knock on the door.

    Who parks across from a T intersection? That's an awful idea to begin with.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2010
    Actually, that may be an illegal place to park. What state do you live in?

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Doc wrote: »
    Actually, that may be an illegal place to park. What state do you live in?

    Illegal or not, he just needs to go speak with his neighbors, not get the law involved. o_O Stop encouraging him.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2010
    Esh wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    Actually, that may be an illegal place to park. What state do you live in?

    Illegal or not, he just needs to go speak with his neighbors, not get the law involved. o_O Stop encouraging him.

    That's true, yeah.

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  • WileyWiley In the dirt.Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Beltaine wrote: »
    Aerial view via MSPaint. :P
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    And yes, in the afternoons, I get the mail on my way home from work. This probably also explains why I haven't gotten mail some days recently.

    The next day it's there that is an actual postal day, (Doesn't run on Sunday) I'll go knock on the door.

    Who parks across from a T intersection? That's an awful idea to begin with.

    I witnessed someone slide on ice at a T intersection once and t-bone a Camaro parked in a similar spot. It knocked the Camaro over the curb and about 3 feet into the yard. That's what happens when an inexperienced driver drives on ice the first time.

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  • BelruelBelruel NARUTO FUCKS Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    now, my situation is a bit different, but i hate my neighbors across the way now, and always will. at my house we park in our driveway till it is filled (2 cars, one my dad's old truck with a cover on it) and in front of our house. but when those are full, my boyfriend would park on a stretch of sidewalk to the side of neighbor's house, not in front of or anything, and they would come over and bug me about it.

    no, it is a public street, i will park where i damn well please! what makes this worse is that for years we just had the one vehicle, and these neighbors and all the others would commonly park in front of my house and other's houses, and even in some people's driveways without permission[/].

    when all spaces are full, we park near the entrance of our neighborhood and walk over, as is normal, but these people would trap my boyfriend's car in by parking so close to the back of his car that he can't move, and they were covering their own driveway 80%.

    so what i am saying is be careful, if you go over there acting like an entitled little so-and-so over parking on a public street, you'll come across as an asshole and your neighbors will be bitter forever. you do have a bit more clout to complain than my neighbor's did though, the car is directly in front of your home, they don't use their own spaces and such.

    though, you know, he may simply be driving to the end of the dead end, looping around, and stopping at the first viable parking space.

    now, what i would do is park your car in front of their house, always. but i am the kind of person who would get a sick pleasure out of doing that, so it probably shouldn't be actually considered.

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  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    If someone parked in my driveway without permission I would have the car towed without a second thought.

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  • BelruelBelruel NARUTO FUCKS Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    If someone parked in my driveway without permission I would have the car towed without a second thought.

    yeah i would too, but that neighbor is a very nice meek woman and they knew they could abuse her like that. she finally went over and asked them not to, and they acted all flustered as though she was making an unusual request.

    parking in my neighborhood is also tight, and a lot of my neighbors just have no manners at all. the newish neighbors next to us repeatedly parking in front of our driveway, blocking our cars in. we had to go ask them to stop, but they would still do it periodically until once they did it late at night/early morning. my mom goes to the gym at 3am, and so their house got woken up at 3am so they could move their damn car.

    it had been a friend's car, and they thought they could just move it in the morning, blah blah blah.


    so Op, just keep in mind that you most likely don't want to make enemies of your neighbors.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    If someone parked in my driveway without permission I would have the car towed without a second thought.

    There is a great difference between parking on someone's verge and parking in front of their driveway.

    To the OP confrontation can be scary! But suck it up, it will help you far greater in the long run just to nut up and talk to your damn neighbours, because getting the police involved if all it took was to talk to them would be fucking ridiculous.

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  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Blaket wrote: »
    If someone parked in my driveway without permission I would have the car towed without a second thought.

    There is a great difference between parking on someone's verge and parking in front of their driveway.

    To the OP confrontation can be scary! But suck it up, it will help you far greater in the long run just to nut up and talk to your damn neighbours, because getting the police involved if all it took was to talk to them would be fucking ridiculous.

    I was replying to Belruel.

    Of course calling the cops at this stage would be uncalled for, especially since knocking on the door and saying "Hey, the mailman yelled at me for having a truck in front of my mailbox, can you guys park it somewhere else? Thanks" would probably do the trick.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2010
    Ok, yeah that is pretty poor parking. Parking on a junction is :( Causes all sorts of poblems.

    But it does look like he's tried to park considerately. I'd go talk to the guy. Maybe even take the tact of a concerned neighbour who doesn't want to see his neighbour's car get towed. Without making it sound like a veiled threat of course.

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