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Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
edited March 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
I just found out I can't use the RC anymore starting March 1st, I didn't have access to my computer for the past 5 months so I was not able to upgrade and now I am stuck with a quickly approaching deadline. I have no OS on this computer, what is the cheapest way to get Windows 7? All I have found are student discounts which I can't get to work right now, at least in 9 days.

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  • VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I'm in the same boat... I found that the OEM edition is the cheapest you can get legally:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754&cm_re=Windows_7_oem-_-32-116-754-_-Product

    (that's the 64 bit edition, it's similarly priced for 32 bit if you need that)

    AFAIK, the only trick to getting an OEM license is that because it's intended for use in new computers, Microsoft expects you (as the OEM provider) to provide your own tech support. I can't find any other limitations other than that, but it's usually not worth it to call Microsoft when something goes wrong anyways. There may be other limitations, but I did some searching and that was all I could find.

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  • Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2010
    Dang, $100 is a bit more than I was expecting, is there any military deals or anything? I might just have to go ahead and get this.

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  • edited February 2010
    I'm in the same boat... I found that the OEM edition is the cheapest you can get legally:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754&cm_re=Windows_7_oem-_-32-116-754-_-Product

    (that's the 64 bit edition, it's similarly priced for 32 bit if you need that)

    AFAIK, the only trick to getting an OEM license is that because it's intended for use in new computers, Microsoft expects you (as the OEM provider) to provide your own tech support. I can't find any other limitations other than that, but it's usually not worth it to call Microsoft when something goes wrong anyways. There may be other limitations, but I did some searching and that was all I could find.

    You're also only able to install it on one motherboard without major hassles.

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  • eternalbleternalbl Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    There's a family pack with 3 licenses for 150 I've seen in Canada. If you've got 2 friends to go in on it with, that's your best bet I think.

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  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    are you a student at a college or university? www.ultimatesteal.com might work...

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  • geckahngeckahn Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    yeah if you have an edu email address you can get it mad cheap

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  • ashridahashridah Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I'm in the same boat... I found that the OEM edition is the cheapest you can get legally:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754&cm_re=Windows_7_oem-_-32-116-754-_-Product

    (that's the 64 bit edition, it's similarly priced for 32 bit if you need that)

    AFAIK, the only trick to getting an OEM license is that because it's intended for use in new computers, Microsoft expects you (as the OEM provider) to provide your own tech support. I can't find any other limitations other than that, but it's usually not worth it to call Microsoft when something goes wrong anyways. There may be other limitations, but I did some searching and that was all I could find.

    You're also only able to install it on one motherboard without major hassles.

    And, technically, the requirement is that you need to sell the completed system to someone else, and not just give it to a friend, or keep it for yourself. This is a relatively new requirement for windows 7, iirc. They changed the oem terms to add this.

    Of course, situations where you can run into a problem with this are probably pretty rare, but aren't impossible (like, say, motherboard failure leading to replacement and a call to their non-automated hotline)

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  • minirhyderminirhyder BerlinRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Fizban140 wrote: »
    All I have found are student discounts which I can't get to work right now, at least in 9 days.
    Why can't you get it to work? My university sells Win 7 copies for $15, all we need to give them is a school ID. How does your place of learning work?
    Also after the deadline your current version won't be utterly unusable, it will just sht down every two hours without saving your work. Maybe you can hold out for your student discounts with it? It won't be fun but might be worth it to save a buck.

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  • ashridahashridah Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    minirhyder wrote: »
    Fizban140 wrote: »
    All I have found are student discounts which I can't get to work right now, at least in 9 days.
    Why can't you get it to work? My university sells Win 7 copies for $15, all we need to give them is a school ID. How does your place of learning work?
    Also after the deadline your current version won't be utterly unusable, it will just sht down every two hours without saving your work. Maybe you can hold out for your student discounts with it? It won't be fun but might be worth it to save a buck.

    It should be noted that even when June 1st rolls around, the only issues are going to be:
    microsoft wrote:
    Effective June 1, 2010, Windows 7 RC expires:
    • Windows starts to a black desktop.
    • Windows 7 RC users are presented with a Windows Activation screen. The screen states that the Windows that you are running is not genuine.
    • Computers that are running Windows 7 RC restart every two hours.

    It'll just keep restarting every two hours, and bitching about activation. That said, without activation, it won't update, etc. It's not a great state to be in, but it's enough time to copy data off to another drive in bits and pieces, etc.

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  • ashridahashridah Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    eternalbl wrote: »
    There's a family pack with 3 licenses for 150 I've seen in Canada. If you've got 2 friends to go in on it with, that's your best bet I think.

    Note that these were only made in limited numbers for the initial release, and are probably sold out almost everywhere now. I work here at MS, and even iI'm not happy with this particular move. I think they should have kept it (if only because I could have used it to cut down on the number of boxes in my apartment :)

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  • ashridahashridah Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Btw, it begs the question: Are you sure you don't qualify for upgrade media? Did you build this system yourself? What were you using for an operating system before you tried the Win7 beta/RC version?

    If you can, get upgrade media, it should be cheaper than OEM and/or retail full install. If you've got an XP or vista product key on the side of the box, then you qualify.

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  • Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2010
    I am in the military and I think I do have an edu address but I never used it so I have to look it up. My old OS was from 6 years ago from my old computer and I used the product key too many times and it would not let me use it again, I was on the phone with tech support for many hours.

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  • NerdtendoNerdtendo Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Do employees of universities qualify for the discount?

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  • ashridahashridah Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Nerdtendo wrote: »
    Do employees of universities qualify for the discount?

    The educational discount? Yes, afaik. Note that if you're using it for work purposes, you should probably get it from your IT department instead, I'm pretty sure the license suggests you shouldn't be making money using it. (not like it's easy to police that, either)

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  • ashridahashridah Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Fizban140 wrote: »
    I am in the military and I think I do have an edu address but I never used it so I have to look it up. My old OS was from 6 years ago from my old computer and I used the product key too many times and it would not let me use it again, I was on the phone with tech support for many hours.

    Okay, so your old OS was in a different motherboard? If it wasn't just a replacement motherboard, then yeah, the oem license from that doesn't apply to your current system. I assume that means you built it yourself, and tried to transfer the license from your old system. That's not really the intent of an OEM license, unfortunately :).

    If you can't sort out the educational version, you're probably out of luck. Buying an OEM edition is certainly doable, but it's not 100% within the terms of the license if its for yourself. (I doubt anyone here is going to dob you in :) ).

    Just a side-note. If you decide to take an alternate, non-monetary route to getting Win7 RTM, be aware that a recent investigation found that around 30% of the different releases of win7 on the shadier networks that bypass activation also sadly come with a gift of malware. Unfortunately, these tend to be impossible to clean out, or even find.

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  • illigillig Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Win 7 Upgrade is actually very easy to use as a "clean install"... takes about 5 min of playing with the registry and rebooting

    that or, go with the student version.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2010
    Fizban140 wrote: »
    Dang, $100 is a bit more than I was expecting, is there any military deals or anything? I might just have to go ahead and get this.

    If you know two other people that need a copy, you could chip in on the Family Pack. $150 for three licenses.

    Edit: Nevermind. I see that AshRidah is correct, and they're not selling it anymore. Glad I got in on that at release now.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2010
    illig wrote: »
    Win 7 Upgrade is actually very easy to use as a "clean install"... takes about 5 min of playing with the registry and rebooting

    that or, go with the student version.

    and if you're not comfortable messing with the registry, you can just install it twice, and it works fine.

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  • ashridahashridah Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    illig wrote: »
    Win 7 Upgrade is actually very easy to use as a "clean install"... takes about 5 min of playing with the registry and rebooting

    that or, go with the student version.

    and if you're not comfortable messing with the registry, you can just install it twice, and it works fine.

    That only works if you've got an eligible release of vista or xp around, it does the check before formatting the disk.

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  • illigillig Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    ashridah wrote: »
    illig wrote: »
    Win 7 Upgrade is actually very easy to use as a "clean install"... takes about 5 min of playing with the registry and rebooting

    that or, go with the student version.

    and if you're not comfortable messing with the registry, you can just install it twice, and it works fine.

    That only works if you've got an eligible release of vista or xp around, it does the check before formatting the disk.

    no, you can easily install on a blank hard drive... i just upgraded my laptop with an SSD and installed Win 7 upgrade on it from scratch using directions similar to these:
    http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp

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  • ashridahashridah Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    illig wrote: »
    ashridah wrote: »
    illig wrote: »
    Win 7 Upgrade is actually very easy to use as a "clean install"... takes about 5 min of playing with the registry and rebooting

    that or, go with the student version.

    and if you're not comfortable messing with the registry, you can just install it twice, and it works fine.

    That only works if you've got an eligible release of vista or xp around, it does the check before formatting the disk.

    no, you can easily install on a blank hard drive... i just upgraded my laptop with an SSD and installed Win 7 upgrade on it from scratch using directions similar to these:
    http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp

    Bah. I knew someone would bring thurrott's article up. Note that it says "may" work :). but yeah, it's a possibility, just not a sure thing, and it's worth pointing out that the OP would *still* be in violation of the license agreement even if it did work.

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  • Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2010
    Well I can't get my edu email to work since I am not currently taking any classes there. I am thinking about signing up for a class and then dropping out just for the discount, or maybe actually taking the class. Is there any way to get an edu email easier? I don't want to cheat the system really, I just don't think I can afford $100-$200 for an OS.

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