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A Friend in need
DirtyDirtyVagrant
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Okay, before I say anything, I will say this. This is not a joke thread.
So I have a friend. Or I had a friend. I don't know yet where that's going. That's...kinda what this thread is about.
We're chilling like normal, and he tells me he won't be around in the summer because he's gonna go stay with another friend (whom I know nothing about) in another state. The conversation continues. My first reaction is like "Oh? You renting a room? Or you just crashing for a little while?"
He starts telling me that he's going down there to be a sex slave, which is weird enough, but he goes on to talk about his duties. Servicing his friend, her boyfriend, and their dog.
Heh, at first I thought he was joking. I laughed. He didn't. So I mean, I had to ask. "Some people want you to fuck their dog. And...that doesn't strike you as odd."
Apparently the dog is supposed to be fucking him.
Here's the problem. What's my next move? Should I be contacting this guy's family? Or like...some variation of social services? Should he be examined? Is he just fucking stupid, talking out of his ass? Should I just walk away?
I honest to god, every time I think about this, I see those commercials in my head - the ones that started playing after the Virginia Tech shootings? About the friend with mental illness?
What do I do?
So I have a friend. Or I had a friend. I don't know yet where that's going. That's...kinda what this thread is about.
We're chilling like normal, and he tells me he won't be around in the summer because he's gonna go stay with another friend (whom I know nothing about) in another state. The conversation continues. My first reaction is like "Oh? You renting a room? Or you just crashing for a little while?"
He starts telling me that he's going down there to be a sex slave, which is weird enough, but he goes on to talk about his duties. Servicing his friend, her boyfriend, and their dog.
Heh, at first I thought he was joking. I laughed. He didn't. So I mean, I had to ask. "Some people want you to fuck their dog. And...that doesn't strike you as odd."
Apparently the dog is supposed to be fucking him.
Here's the problem. What's my next move? Should I be contacting this guy's family? Or like...some variation of social services? Should he be examined? Is he just fucking stupid, talking out of his ass? Should I just walk away?
I honest to god, every time I think about this, I see those commercials in my head - the ones that started playing after the Virginia Tech shootings? About the friend with mental illness?
What do I do?
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There's really not much you can do. Tell his family if you want. If you know where he's going report the people to the humane society.
But. Wow.
That dog needs help out of that shitty home.
The dog stuff is creepy (non-consenting and all that) but the rest of it is just kinkiness. Consenting adults and all that.
I'm assuming he's not just fucking with you.
The dog is more than likely fucked either way, since humane services are likely to just have him euthanized when they take him away from his disturbed people.
My guess is that his advice would be that you can't talk someone out of a kink, and that despite how disturbed you (and other reasonable people) might be over the dog part, it's really not your business.
Seriously though, he may just be playing a stretched out joke on you. Discuss it more with him before contacting his family or any authorities.
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People have their kinks, and wanting to be a sex slave is a common one. It's not a sign of mental illness. Just be flattered your friend is letting you in on his secret. Since it obviously makes you feel uncomfortable, ask him to keep details to a minimum when bringing it up in the future.
Doc's 100% correct as usual.
But this guy...he can't say shit like this with a straight face. I can. He can't. So I mean, it's possible that he's fucking with me, technically, assuming he learned how to lie, but I would think that he would pick something better to lie about.
So I guess the general consensus is that I should do my best to talk him out of it and break away if he decides to go through with it?
To the person who asked, I'm 23 and he's 21
Oh man, remind me to tell a story later...
No, no one said this.
What everyone said is that he is free to fuck whoever he wants.
There is a slight issue with someone fucking a dog as that is against the law and animal abuse (Although it raises an odd ethicial question if the dog chooses to do the fucking is it still animal abuse, but regardless a good rule of thumb I go by is don't fuck dogs).
Some people get off on the idea that they are a slave. It takes all types! Don't be so mean to judge some dude just because he gets off a different way than you.
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why does this make you so uncomfortable?
People don't do this shit because they "need to get laid" they do it because they want to.
You're right about the safety though. They might have a contract written up though. This is the kind of stuff you should ask him about, OP.
He had a girlfriend not too far back (his first, to my knowledge), but I don't think they ever did anything. She was kinda nuts, and I'm pretty sure she ended up dumping him for like her brother or some weird shit like that. He never wanted to talk about it.
* Edit: just saw your latest post, so scratch that part.
i don't think you can HAVE a contract that makes you a slave
edit: it's a touchy subject but i don't know if letting a dog fuck you is really animal abuse
Even though it's this guy's business--people have brought up the issues with the dog involved--it's pretty damn bizzare.
I don't think roleplaying a slave and being a slave are the same thing.
Legally, no. I'm pretty sure that I read an article where a guy was prosecuted for Assault/Unlawful Imprisonment and he tried to claim that his Master/slave contract was legally binding and that she'd signed away all her rights to say no - I want to say it was thrown out the moment the judge read it.
But in the scene? Yes, there can be. For some people it's just a kink that they like to get out of their systems every now and again but for some this is a 24/7 lifestyle. I've had plenty of friends get into D/s or M/s relationships for years on end - hell, some of my married friends have been in that kind of relationship for 20+ years.
What I'm saying is that whilst it may not be legal to the letter of the law, people in the lifestyle will treat it and believe in it just as strongly.
As for the whole Dog thing -- people have strange kinks. I felt just as strongly as the OP did: I've grown up around Military Dogs my entire life and the first time I heard about it I was pretty close to breaking some noses. However, IANAL but unless the dog is being harmed and it's welfare is being put at risk, I'm not sure where you stand with calling Animal Services.
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but abuse?
Dodging the dog question, I think you should talk to him about whether or not he's doing this safely. There are safe ways to be in even extreme D/s relationships. I don't know the resources, but I'm sure someone here does... :P or you could search through some of Dan Savage's columns, I know he's posted something in the last few months.
Is it possible he's done something like this with them before? I mean, to me, "friend" implies someone... you didn't just meet and decide to go play sex slave with. Maybe find out his history with these people and go from there- if he's never met them maybe he needs to re-evaluate once more and make sure it's the right thing to do. But if they have a history... then I think it's even less of a deal.
As said, people enter into dom/sub relationships of varying degrees all the time, and you don't seem to be taking issue with the nature of that relationship. But if you're worried about these strangers you don't know just ask.
The best advice I could possibly give, as someone who has on and off been involved in relationships similar to this, is to talk to him. You have no idea where this came from and are pretty rightfully disturbed by the suddenness of it all. I can say from personal experience that these are not the kind of conversations that people find easy and at the same time they're conversations regarding such immense psychological scope that many people really need to have someone to talk to outside of the immediate relationship in question.
The fact that these people are out of state is troubling. Are they internet friends? has this guy ever actually met them? has your friend ever been in this sort of situation (arrangement) before? is he looking for someone to talk to?
In the least I'd agree that it is, to some extent, not your business to judge too harshly. It is your business to, perhaps, listen and give your buddy a 3rd party who will listen and rationally judge. Things like having an emergency contact, perhaps meeting these people, etc. may be what he's looking for, practically, along with an ear.
Regardless, a simple "do you need someone to talk to about this?" is probably the best step. One of the dangers of this kind of lifestyle is the ability to become socially isolated, in which the lifestyle takes on un-realistic aspects because there's no frame of reference.
Good luck.
And of course this is all assuming you aren't about to be rickrolled. Honestly, I've had friends say comparatively strange things to me and then carry them out, so it really wouldn't shock me, real or fake, either way.
1). He's messing with you and seeing how gullible you are.
2). He wants to move away and cut off ties with you, ending whatever friendship you guys have. Sounds like this guy is making up such a ridiculous story to get you to avoid him, or nullify the friendship. Which, it sounds like either way, made up story or not, this friendship is over. He wants to avoid you and came up with a story that would make you not want to stand 10 feet near this guy, or it's actually true and you don't want to be in the same city.
You don't have any responsibility to help this guy. He's not being forcibly taken, he's agreeing to it. Walk away and disinfect his room thoroughly when he leaves.
That's what my common sense tells me anyway. Maybe I'm naive.
Actually, dogs can fuck humans. There is even a whole industry based on this concept and there are tons of movies and videos that show just that. It is not so common in the United States.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoofilia
OP, your friend would become something called a Gimp, and from there he could be exposed to illnesses, including HIV.
Sex with animals carry the risk not only to infections, but also peritonitis, which can be fatal.
http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/5034/WA/US/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoophilia_and_health
I think he met them online. He plays come kind of MUD where people just sit there and cyber all the time. I saw it on his laptop screen once. Shangrila, I think it was called.
e: Google search confirms that.