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Medical symptom research, freakish stuff (Africa)

ueanuean Registered User regular
edited March 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
Most probably know by now but if not, I'm in Uganda.

We just had one of our staff die from a really rapid onset of.... something. Official diagnosis is pneumonia but not exactly from a reputable source, and I've never seen anyone die in 8 hours from pneumonia. I want to know more about it. I'd like to do my due diligence with this just in case it was something serious that might be putting others at risk.

For some background, the staff person who died was our second in command working at a rather large clinic (~1700 patients per day) clinic that we run on site. We're located about 4 hours from the big city of Kampala, and about 120kms from the nearest "city", so we're in the bush. Bigtime.

He complained that he was feeling a bit feverish in the morning on a saturday, but went off to school where he was going to teach a class. He felt a bit worse as the day wore on, and came home with a cough that had some blood in it. He was diagnosed at our clinic on site and then referred to a hospital a half hour away. The fever had set in by this time, severely, the cough was terrible and he was coughing up a lot of blood. He was rushed to hospital. By the time he arrived in hospital he could no longer see or speak and the blood was... bad. He died within a few hours of reaching the place.

Very strange to see someone going from "I'm feeling a bit under the weather" to dead in a day, and given he has exposure to everything under the sun around here in a congested clinic I'd like to satisfy the inner disaster-demon's curiosity and rule out Ebola and stuff. It's nighttime so the soonest I can do this effectively will be in about 15 hours, so any resources until then online would be nice if someone could provide them. Or heck, just input. I have time.

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  • underdonkunderdonk __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2010
    Here in the U.S., H1N1 was killing people in under 24 hours from the time they started showing symptoms.

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    IANAD, but the coughing up of blood and fever sounds like maybe tuberculosis

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    8 hours is a fantastically fast death from any sort of hemorrhagic fever that I've ever heard of (IANAD, I just did a huge report on Ebola in high school).

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  • tinwhiskerstinwhiskers Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    IANAD :
    Since its Uganda, did he have an underlying condition like HIV/AIDS? 8 hours is crazy fast for Ebola, and iirc its more of a multi-organ failure deal destroying the intestines/liver/kidneys etc, not just burning down the lungs. That said its Africa and they have all kinds of nasty shit there that doesn't get made into block-buster movies.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Really, I think your best bet is to trust the hospital he went to.

    There's a good chance he had some other underlying condition, and it really was pneumonia (like tinwhiskers says, that seems like something that would happen if your immune system were compromised already).

    At the same time, you probably want to watch yourself for signs of sickness, and see someone if you start showing a fever/cough.

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  • StruenseeStruensee Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I think you'd need to provide more information. If he wasn't getting the blood clear of his lungs, he may have drowned in his own fluids - that only takes a few minutes.

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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Chronic strep infection leading to rheumatic fever and congestive heart failure? Infectious diseases are beyond my tiny slice of expertise.

    His pulmonary bleeding was only a symptom, I'd certainly push for more info when you get a chance. Who transported him? Was any attempt at ventilation made along the way? How long did it take to get to the hospital? What was his condition when they arrived? Anyone perform an echo or ECG? Blood pressure? Are they even equipped to do so?

    Like everyone else mentioned, it really doesn't fit the profile of a hemorrhagic fever, so don't get yourself worked up thinking that you're incubating Marburg or something.

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  • FantasmaFantasma Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    The only way to find out it is by an autopsy, here you are a couple of things that you could check:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dengue

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemoptysis

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  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    https://health.google.com/health/ref/Aspiration+pneumonia

    AKA Necrotizing Pneumonia.

    So it's not unheard of.

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  • ueanuean Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Thanks guys. No reports of anyone from our clinic suddenly dying or anything so I think everything's in the clear. I've talked to a few doctors here who say that it is not uncommon, and yes, drowning in your own blood is a brutal way to die but most likely the reason for death due to pneumonia.


    Still crappy. He was a great guy. Close the thread!

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