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Correctly Citing Sources

Nite-ManNite-Man Registered User regular
edited March 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
I'm writing a paper in MLA style.

Example 1: According to the Silly Goose Foundation, "geese are silly."

Example 2: According to the Silly Goose Foundation, "geese are silly" (Silly Goose Foundation).

Which of these is correct? I'm thinking that number 1 is correct because of the according to the foundation part. Am I wrong? Example 2 just seems redundant to me.

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  • LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    If it's clear from the context in which you use the quote who it is attributed to, you will only need to provide the page number as an in-text citation.

    For example: As Keats once said to Coleridge, "this is amazing opium you have acquired" (45).

    This is perfectly fine as long as you're only citing one work by Keats, which makes it unambiguous which text you're citing.

    What, exactly, are you citing? Different forms of media require different types of in-text citations, but if you're citing something with a page/line/paragraph number you will still need to provide that even if it's clear what piece of writing the quotation refers to.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    IIRC the MLA format demands that you always use a parenthetical citation, for purpose of referring the reader to the bibliography. It doesn't (technically) matter if the authoring entity is mentioned in the sentence.

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  • 28682868 Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    MLA rules:

    If you identify the author in the phrase cite the page number in the parenthetical. If the author is not identified then cite the author and the page number in the parenthetical.

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  • Nite-ManNite-Man Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Thanks, dudes. But what if it's from a web page? There would be no page number.

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  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    then as far as i know you'd provide the full link in the first citation and in the bibliography, but just cite the author in subsequent references

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  • 28682868 Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    That purdue link i gave you has all of the citation rules you could ever want.

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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    2868 wrote: »
    That purdue link i gave you has all of the citation rules you could ever want.


    As a rule, the MLA guidelines are never something you should be searching for via a forum or second hand. That link works great, but your best bet would be to tromp on down to your local campus bookstore and buy the handbook. It costs $5 and every class you have in English, and quite a few others, will require it.

    Just spend the money and be happy and blissful. Not spending the money is toeing unnecessary point deductions on your papers.

    Trust Enc on this one. It would be a good thing.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    eh, the stuff that's in the handbook is all available online. Five bucks for a hand reference isn't a bad deal, but it's not like it's necessary (especially when all you're expecting to be doing is writing bibliographies for term papers.)

    god, MLA style is such a piece of junk, I have a hard time telling anyone they should spend money on it.

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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Dyscord wrote: »
    eh, the stuff that's in the handbook is all available online. Five bucks for a hand reference isn't a bad deal, but it's not like it's necessary (especially when all you're expecting to be doing is writing bibliographies for term papers.)

    god, MLA style is such a piece of junk, I have a hard time telling anyone they should spend money on it.


    This is absolutely the worst idea. If you have the handbook, you can show where you got your citation form from directly to the professor. Websites can, and often do, go down and then what will you have?

    Trust me on this. I work at an English Department, we get these complaint all the time. Actually owning the book saves students a lot of trouble, especially if they are challenging grades.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    If for some reason you need a hard copy, the library has them (or you can go buy one when push comes to shove.)

    At the end of the day it's five bucks, so whatever; I just don't see the ironclad reason to spend it when you can get the same information from most uni's (for that matter, most department's) websites for free.

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  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Dyscord wrote: »
    If for some reason you need a hard copy, the library has them (or you can go buy one when push comes to shove.)

    At the end of the day it's five bucks, so whatever; I just don't see the ironclad reason to spend it when you can get the same information from most uni's (for that matter, most department's) websites for free.

    The majority of websites do not actually contain all of the reference material in the handbook, just the usual stuff most students use in day to day classes. Which is fine, except for when your professor gives you that odd assignment that requires use of the text to test if you have the handbook (as I've known professors to do).

    The library is a good call, but not exactly useful in your dorm room the night before your paper is due, as is the habit if the majority of students.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I have a pretty hard time believing there's any "test" of MLA style that I can't solve with five minutes and access to google (if not by just asking the professor what they are looking for.)

    But if we're going with the "it's 3 AM on sunday and the internet is down and your paper is due tomorrow and you've managed to expend your entire two week deadline and you're still clueless" standard (admittedly more common than you would think), sure, buy the style book.

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  • finnithfinnith ... TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I'm only in my first year of uni, so I guess I haven't ran into this problem yet, but why is there so much fuss about this? I just use Son of Citation Machine or BibME for all my citing. Does it become more difficult later on or something?

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  • corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Doesn't everyone just use Endnote?

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  • finnithfinnith ... TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    corcorigan wrote: »
    Doesn't everyone just use Endnote?

    Didn't know it existed before this, might give the trial a try.

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  • LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    My students use those programs all the time and they spit out terrible citations. It may be that they're using them improperly, but MLA format is not hard to wrap one's brain around.

    Also, it's worth noting that the 7th Edition of the MLA Handbook just came out, so you should probably clarify with instructors which format they want, since there are, oddly enough, some English teachers who aren't MLA members.

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  • travathiantravathian Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Doesn't your school have a writing department for help with these kinds of things?

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