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Streaming Media To Your Device Thing!
templewulf
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Hello Forumers,
Look at your consoles, now back to your PC, now back at your consoles, now back at your PC. Sadly, your consoles aren't your PC, but if they stopped being isolated and could play media from your network, they could be like your PC. Look at TVersity, back at CCCP, where are you? You're at your PC with media your console could play. What's in your console? Back to the PC, your console has it. It's a video stream of that show you love. Look again, the show is now Firefly. Anything is possible when your console streams media from your PC.
I'm on a 360.
This is the video streaming thread.
If you have a device that can stream media (judging by demographics here, probably a PS3 or 360), then you should be watching your media from your couch.
Video streaming applications for Windows
I'm working with Vista and XP here, though I'm sure other forumers would appreciate suggestions on other platforms.
Video streaming applications for Mac
Codec and Filter Solutions for Windows
Thanks to these people and/or threads:
Lingering Questions
Q: Why?
A: My wife loves the fuck out of her Inuyasha DVDs, and we have the PS3 in the living room, 360 in the bedroom. With ripped DVDs, she can watch any episode from any room in the house without disc swapping.
Q: Why does my PS3 Media Server have such a low framerate on my MKV files?
A: ???
Q: Why won't embedded subtitles work?
A: Have you tried setting TVersity to Always transcode? Have you set it to use FFDshow instead of DirectShow?
Q: Why does TVersity crash on some videos but not others?
A: For me, it was ffdshow audio crashing on AAC audio streams.
Q: Why doesn't TVersity appear to invoke ffdshow?
A: For reasons I'm unclear on, ffdshow never appears in the task tray when used by TVersity. As near as I can tell, TVersity invokes a copy of ffdshow with default settings, which may explain why lots of people can't get subtitles. Going into services.msc and setting the account to "This Account" and entering your account name / password can help with this. I've also heard that this isn't necessary with the newest version, so...I dunno?
Q: When trying to register MatroskaSplitter.ax manually, it gives me a "failed to load" message. What do I do about that?
A: Two things, probably. First, you need to start cmd with administrator privileges (search for it, then right-click on it and Run As Administrator). Secondly, you might be running on x64 architecture, in which case you should download the x64 version.
Hello Forumers,
Look at your consoles, now back to your PC, now back at your consoles, now back at your PC. Sadly, your consoles aren't your PC, but if they stopped being isolated and could play media from your network, they could be like your PC. Look at TVersity, back at CCCP, where are you? You're at your PC with media your console could play. What's in your console? Back to the PC, your console has it. It's a video stream of that show you love. Look again, the show is now Firefly. Anything is possible when your console streams media from your PC.
I'm on a 360.
This is the video streaming thread.
If you have a device that can stream media (judging by demographics here, probably a PS3 or 360), then you should be watching your media from your couch.
Video streaming applications for Windows
I'm working with Vista and XP here, though I'm sure other forumers would appreciate suggestions on other platforms.
- TVersity - the most popular
- ORB - requires web interface, so it might not gain as much traction here
- PS3 Media Server - the easiest to set up
- PlayOn - This one was streaming PlayOn and Netflix before it was cool. I paid for it before XBox had Netflix built in, and I still don't regret it.
Video streaming applications for Mac
- http://www.plexapp.com/
- MediaLink
- Connect360
Codec and Filter Solutions for Windows
- CCCP seems to be most reliable
- K-Lite Codec pack is chock full of options, but I haven't had as much luck with it
- Shark007 - at first glance, this seems to be the best organized package, but it was extra crashy for me.
- individually downloading FFDShow-tryout and Matroska splitter is the most work, but it works best for me.
- WMP12 - only available on Win7; has more codecs according to Ars Technica
Thanks to these people and/or threads:
- http://forum.tversity.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=46461&p=99078&hilit=mkv+subtitles&sid=3a0d03239baa871b277d6aa2cf1735ec#p99078
- http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2650743&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1
- http://forums.tversity.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=27398
- http://forums.tversity.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=13292
- http://www.davieslim.com/ps3/tversity-to-ps3/
- http://forum.tversity.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=10517
- http://forum.tversity.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=23483
- http://forums.tversity.com/viewtopic.php?p=42793
Lingering Questions
Q: Why?
A: My wife loves the fuck out of her Inuyasha DVDs, and we have the PS3 in the living room, 360 in the bedroom. With ripped DVDs, she can watch any episode from any room in the house without disc swapping.
Q: Why does my PS3 Media Server have such a low framerate on my MKV files?
A: ???
Q: Why won't embedded subtitles work?
A: Have you tried setting TVersity to Always transcode? Have you set it to use FFDshow instead of DirectShow?
Q: Why does TVersity crash on some videos but not others?
A: For me, it was ffdshow audio crashing on AAC audio streams.
Q: Why doesn't TVersity appear to invoke ffdshow?
A: For reasons I'm unclear on, ffdshow never appears in the task tray when used by TVersity. As near as I can tell, TVersity invokes a copy of ffdshow with default settings, which may explain why lots of people can't get subtitles. Going into services.msc and setting the account to "This Account" and entering your account name / password can help with this. I've also heard that this isn't necessary with the newest version, so...I dunno?
Q: When trying to register MatroskaSplitter.ax manually, it gives me a "failed to load" message. What do I do about that?
A: Two things, probably. First, you need to start cmd with administrator privileges (search for it, then right-click on it and Run As Administrator). Secondly, you might be running on x64 architecture, in which case you should download the x64 version.
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Any ideas for PS3MS, or should I go back to TVersity?
K-Lite is something you should stay away from, it will cause conflicts & crashes with codecs & video software because it's so damn bloated.
CCCP will work just fine for most people more. It's also more efficient than most codecs for playback of video files.
That's more or less my experience. I had some success with K-Lite a few versions ago, but I just can't get it to stream MKVs containing AVC/AAC through ffdshow without crashing TVersity.
I believe this should be it.
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2008/10/hands-on-windows-media-player-12s-surprising-new-features.ars
As far as I know it's the most mature and one of the few actual free uPNP servers for OSX.
If anyone needs help ripping dvds on a mac here is a walk thru I did:
http://www.americanflannel.com/wp/?p=161#more-161
Next will be the three line walk thru on how to rip blurays on the Mac and quick changes to the Handbrake settings to encode those.
I'm about to hit the sack, so I can't do a huge write-up, but you need a server and codecs. Assuming you're on Windows, I'd do the following:
I don't know for sure if you need to restart between each step anymore, but it made a huge difference to me last time I did an installation of TVersity. If you have trouble registering the matroska splitter, take a look at my Lingering Questions section.
Linux'ers can either google "MediaTomb", or if they're on Ubuntu, just type "sudo apt-get install mediatomb" at a command line. It might also be in other distributions' repos, I'm not sure.
Also, for Mac users, I recommend Connect360 for 360 owners and Medialink for PS3 owners. Both are from the same company, Nullriver, and cost $20 each. I have the full version of Connect 360 and have tried the demo of Medialink and both work very well. If I had the PS3 and 360 in different rooms I wouldn't hesitate to buy both of them.
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It's relatively painless to setup, aside from a quirk here or there, and is fantastic if you've got Libraries set up on your computer.
Can you elaborate any on how well it handles MKVs, embedded subs, etc? I'm on Vista, so I don't have any first-hand experience with it.
As far as I can tell, MKV containers, with AAC audio and embedded subs are the holy grail of streaming. If anybody gets it running properly on an x64 machine, let me know.
I've got Win 7 x64, and all I had to do to get mkv's playing and streaming to my 360 were to just install CCCP first. Then install Tversity, and during the installation, tick off the box for installing the codecs. CCCP already takes care of that, installing the codecs Tversity comes with will just cause conflicts.
And that's it. It is weird hearing everyone complain about not being able to stream mkv's. It is pretty easy. I used the same technique when I had Vista x64.
Got a question though, I've been trying to actually convert my mkv's to wmv's. It seems that when I stream mkv's, they load every couple of minutes. If I leave it paused for awhile, it will play longer. But with HD-WMV, it plays it perfectly. I am running wireless so that's probably why it is pausing every so often.
I've tried using Super, but it is always giving me errors on the mkv's. The files play fine though. Can anyone recommend any programs to convert to HD-WMV?
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I wrote up something up on my own hassles with mkvs and subtitles that might explain better what people are striving for, with pictures and everything, here:
http://baudattitude.com/2010/02/19/man-vs-mkv-the-story-so-far/
If you have subtitles working like that over streaming, I will revere you as my own personal (minor) diety. Like, no human sacrifice or anything. Maybe just not eating bacon on Thursdays or something, you pick the edict.
I also have steps for converting mkv -> m4v that might be extendable to your HD-wmv needs with a little tweaking.
It works with PS3MediaServer + CCCP, but my MKVs using H.264 have a weird framerate issue.
About six months ago, I had it working with TVersity + K-Lite, but I can't imagine what happened to get that going. I'm sure I was using Gabest instead of Haali, though.
No worries man. Yeah subtitles work for me. All I did was what I described in my last post. I didn't change any settings or anything. Now, I am talking about hardcoded subs though. I've never tried the other way (I've had no need too).
Does the 360 play m4v natively? I'm at work so I can't really check.
Also, would having a wireless n connection make that much of a difference in having no pauses every so often with mkv's? If so, I'll just get the new n wireless adapter, which is fucking rape, but HD is awesome
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When I tried to set it up for my friend, however, it fucked up royally. All his music imported, but his videos did not. Adding folders manually does nothing, as WMC already thinks that these folders are under the Videos section of the program. All file formats are .avi, so I don't see why they're not displaying.
We're both using Windows 7, and both have 360s from around the same time period, if it matters. If reinstalling is the issue, how do I go about "reinstalling" it for either PC or 360, as the problem exists on both ends?
I honestly don't know what you mean by that. Are you saying you have videos that compensate for overscan with empty areas around the content? Or are you saying you own a TV with overscan issues?
I'd be tempted to blame that on the TV and see if there's a setting to compensate for it there.
On the other hand, I've never had to deal with it on my TV, so I haven't looked into application settings to stream it pre-adjusted. Maybe check out ffdshow's options?