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Escrow.com - legit or not?

DarkCrawlerDarkCrawler Registered User regular
edited March 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
I'm conducting some personal business relating to real estate, where one of the people I am dealing with is living abroad. He wants to do deals through this service, but it seems sort of sketchy - can someone more knowledgeable on these things tell me if this is an actual company?

https://www.escrow.com/index.asp

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Escrow.com is, yes, just be on the lookout for fake links Dark.

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    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Real estate deals with someone abroad is a common method for 401 scammers, so just be sure you're really, really careful.

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  • DarkCrawlerDarkCrawler Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Yeah, I'm not actually signing anything until I see the apartment in person.

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  • DragonPupDragonPup Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I'm conducting some personal business relating to real estate, where one of the people I am dealing with is living abroad. He wants to do deals through this service, but it seems sort of sketchy - can someone more knowledgeable on these things tell me if this is an actual company?

    https://www.escrow.com/index.asp

    Red for very high chance of scam.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Yeah, I'm not actually signing anything until I see the apartment in person.

    I think the most common method is that they somehow transfer a key to you, often through an escrow service, under the claim that this lets you look at the property. They then somehow steal all of your money and disappear forever and ever.

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  • DragonPupDragonPup Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm not actually signing anything until I see the apartment in person.

    I think the most common method is that they somehow transfer a key to you, often through an escrow service, under the claim that this lets you look at the property. They then somehow steal all of your money and disappear forever and ever.

    Seriously, these things are all almost scams. Walk away.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    DragonPup wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm not actually signing anything until I see the apartment in person.

    I think the most common method is that they somehow transfer a key to you, often through an escrow service, under the claim that this lets you look at the property. They then somehow steal all of your money and disappear forever and ever.

    Seriously, these things are all almost scams. Walk away.

    Even if it's not an outright scam, you don't want to be buying something from someone who can't be held accountable in your local courts when it turns out your basement was built over a Deepcrow nest or something.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Or if he's subletting. And in that notion, is in cohoots with the owner and as soon as you pay and get your key you get evicted because it's not a valid lease, etc.

    You're better to ignore it and go on your way. As xenophobic as it is, dealing with foreigners almost never works out.

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  • DarkCrawlerDarkCrawler Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I'll take those points into consideration. The offer seems a bit wierd anyway.

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  • bwabwa Registered User new member
    edited March 2010
    Escrow.com does not do real estate escrow, just personal property. You can call me directly to discuss at 949-790-5880.

    Brandon Abbey
    President
    Escrow.com

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I... wha? Google says that's the phone number for escrow.com. I guess maybe the owner runs searches on the name of his company occasionally?

    Has anyone ever noticed how high Penny Arcade forums always rank on the google search index? It's crazy.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    They probably see lots of hits coming from Penny-arcade's referrals.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    A quick look suggests they usually deal with high-value domains changing hands, and that he has a fancy caricature done on him with some weird ass marble eyes for some reason.

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  • Iceman.USAFIceman.USAF Major East CoastRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    bwa wrote: »
    Escrow.com does not do real estate escrow, just personal property. You can call me directly to discuss at 949-790-5880.

    Brandon Abbey
    President
    Escrow.com

    Why is the Escrow.com president on our boards?

    I'm scared. Is this a hostile takeover? Will I still have a job Monday?

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Could also just be someone they pay to do google searches of the company and refer them to the escrow site.

    Edit:

    For instance if you google "escrow.com legit" pa forums is one of the first 5 results.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    If it were a link-builder they would have made a hotlink to the actual site for search rankings.

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    DragonPup wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm not actually signing anything until I see the apartment in person.

    I think the most common method is that they somehow transfer a key to you, often through an escrow service, under the claim that this lets you look at the property. They then somehow steal all of your money and disappear forever and ever.

    Seriously, these things are all almost scams. Walk away.

    Even if it's not an outright scam, you don't want to be buying something from someone who can't be held accountable in your local courts when it turns out your basement was built over a Deepcrow nest or something.

    Just as a personal account of a similar situation, when looking for apt's in San Diego, I came across an absolutely screaming deal on craigslist, and out of curiosity emailed the person to find out what the story was with the place. I got this huge story about living in England, but still keeping the apt in the states, blah blah, and after the dude was sure he hooked me, I finally got the escrow bit a few emails later. It was a scam. I am guessing this is similar to what has happened to you maybe? (And no I didn't buy into it)

    Always ask yourself if this seems to good to be true, chances are it is. Apt may be legit, but I would be extremely cautious regardless.

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  • flatlinegraphicsflatlinegraphics Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    its a scam. the service may be real, the apt may be real, but the person trying to sell you on it is scamming you.

    http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams
    see #5.

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  • bwabwa Registered User new member
    edited March 2010
    I try to get on the boards where people have questions about escrow.com There are a lot of fraud escrow sites out there. We reported ten earlier today to the various hosting companies and the IC3.

    Brandon

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  • darkgruedarkgrue Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Keep in mind, even if the "escrow" service is a legitmate site, all they are holding in escrow is a key.

    They're not necessarily contractually bound to make sure the key actually belongs to anything. That's what a proper title search and real estate escrow service would do. And since El Presidente of Escrow.com has shown up to verify that's not what Escrow.com is, if you went through with that sort of transaction - all you bought was a key.

    "house key, brass; stamped 'Schlage' in Nigerian, slightly used" $900

    Isn't really the escrow's place to ask why you've paying so much for a random house key. Maybe it has intense sentimental value?

    Since this is a scam, there is a near-certainty that it will not open the door of the property, since the person never had access to the place. Probably had never been there in his life. Just picked it out of some online listing and sen you some old key that was lying around (doesn't everyone have at least a few keys to nothing at all lying around the house?). You're out your money, and you have no recorse with the escrow service, since they can verify they sent you your (very expensive) key as promised.

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  • MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Well it might open a door.

    Much to the surprise and retaliation of the people living inside.

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