There seems to be a lot of complaining about how some classes only use two buttons to play. All I can really say about that is
I don't think it's invalid for people to complain about the rather large variance between difficulty/skill required and payoff across the spectrum of classes/specs.
More buttons does not equal harder though. Survival has 6 regular abilities but I find it very easy to play.
Equal, no, but the correlation is strong. The 2-3 button specs are also typically the easiest, since Blizzard is not going to get a complicated rotation/priority mechanic out of so few abilities.
How did WotLK change the way they distinguish minor and major patches, no?
Because minor patches sometimes including content doesn't sound like a change in distinguishing patches to me.
It sure seems like a change in how they number their patches to me.
Pre-WotLK we had major patches being "content/features/major class changes" and minor revision being "bugfix".
With WotLK we're seeing new raid bosses get only a minor revision bump. We're seeing minor revision bumps stay on the PTR for a month or longer, when we rarely saw it on at all for a minor revision before that (and only for one or two weeks at most??). We're seeing multiple patches not even getting their own patch number.
And of course, (what brought this up) is that we've never seen a x.9 release specifically designed to precede a (x+1).0 release before now, and with the way patch numbers were used in Classic, I'm not sure how that would have made sense (unless we end up getting a 3.4, 3.5, ..., 3.8, which I highly doubt).
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Thanks for the replies guys. I had a 39 lock from vanilla days. Hated him. deleted him last week because i had 10 toons on the server and no room for a dullknight or a cataclysm character. I deleted my 14 pally cause i want to roll a cowadin come cata. I have a 14 priest but she kills SLOW. I was thinking shammy but there's only 2 starter areas and i dislike both. Undead stink too. Thoughts?
Shamans are amazing. And yes, the starting Tauren and Troll/Orc areas kind of suck, though as soon as I get past the intro stuff I run my Horde characters over to Eversong/Ghostlands anyway, so...
Only thing that sucks is how you have to jump back to TB/Org for training. That eventually becomes not much of an issue once you get Astral Recall and the minor glyph that reduces the cooldown to 7.5 minutes.
God I wish I had that back when I was leveling my Shaman. But even unglyphed, 15 minutes wasn't bad. 5 hearths an hour!
Bah, wish I had thought of that when I was leveling my Shaman. I haven't seen the Blood Elf starting areas and it would have been cool to experience them.
And I will agree Shamans are amazing. They kind of suck up until you get a fair amount of points into Enhancement, but fuck when you get dual-wield you are a meat grinder with legs.
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Thanks for the replies guys. I had a 39 lock from vanilla days. Hated him. deleted him last week because i had 10 toons on the server and no room for a dullknight or a cataclysm character. I deleted my 14 pally cause i want to roll a cowadin come cata. I have a 14 priest but she kills SLOW. I was thinking shammy but there's only 2 starter areas and i dislike both. Undead stink too. Thoughts?
Shamans are amazing. And yes, the starting Tauren and Troll/Orc areas kind of suck, though as soon as I get past the intro stuff I run my Horde characters over to Eversong/Ghostlands anyway, so...
Only thing that sucks is how you have to jump back to TB/Org for training. That eventually becomes not much of an issue once you get Astral Recall and the minor glyph that reduces the cooldown to 7.5 minutes.
God I wish I had that back when I was leveling my Shaman. But even unglyphed, 15 minutes wasn't bad. 5 hearths an hour!
Bah, wish I had thought of that when I was leveling my Shaman. I haven't seen the Blood Elf starting areas and it would have been cool to experience them.
And I will agree Shamans are amazing. They kind of suck up until you get a fair amount of points into Enhancement, but fuck when you get dual-wield you are a meat grinder with legs.
You should at the very least hit up BE areas for the 10-20 grind. Ghostlands is a fabulously designed zone.
Indeed. I reckon that puts Cataclysm nearer Christmas than summer. I really am going to have to quit for a few months if that's the case.
I was thinking that too. In fact, already canceled for the second time in five years (the first being a period of about 3-5 weeks where I had to concentrate on a thesis). Hit a gear plateau that PUGs can't surpass and ran out of interesting things to get with emblems.
Worgen mage's full set of heirlooms is ready, though.
Indeed. I reckon that puts Cataclysm nearer Christmas than summer. I really am going to have to quit for a few months if that's the case.
I was thinking that too. In fact, already canceled for the second time in five years (the first being a period of about 3-5 weeks where I had to concentrate on a thesis). Hit a gear plateau that PUGs can't surpass and ran out of interesting things to get with emblems.
Worgen mage's full set of heirlooms is ready, though.
I've almost got enough seals/emblems for a full set of heirlooms for whatever new class I decide to roll in Cataclysm, but I'm holding off on actually buying them until I find out what they're going to do about heirlooms for the new races and class combos.
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Indeed. I reckon that puts Cataclysm nearer Christmas than summer. I really am going to have to quit for a few months if that's the case.
I was thinking that too. In fact, already canceled for the second time in five years (the first being a period of about 3-5 weeks where I had to concentrate on a thesis). Hit a gear plateau that PUGs can't surpass and ran out of interesting things to get with emblems.
Worgen mage's full set of heirlooms is ready, though.
I've almost got enough seals/emblems for a full set of heirlooms for whatever new class I decide to roll in Cataclysm, but I'm holding off on actually buying them until I find out what they're going to do about heirlooms for the new races and class combos.
Didn't they just say something about heirlooms making you ineligible for first-to-85 achievements? Or are they removing their leveling effects altogether? I got little problem if it's the former, as I wasn't planning to put in 20-hour days working on that with a guild assist anyway.
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Thanks for the replies guys. I had a 39 lock from vanilla days. Hated him. deleted him last week because i had 10 toons on the server and no room for a dullknight or a cataclysm character. I deleted my 14 pally cause i want to roll a cowadin come cata. I have a 14 priest but she kills SLOW. I was thinking shammy but there's only 2 starter areas and i dislike both. Undead stink too. Thoughts?
Shamans are amazing. And yes, the starting Tauren and Troll/Orc areas kind of suck, though as soon as I get past the intro stuff I run my Horde characters over to Eversong/Ghostlands anyway, so...
Only thing that sucks is how you have to jump back to TB/Org for training. That eventually becomes not much of an issue once you get Astral Recall and the minor glyph that reduces the cooldown to 7.5 minutes.
God I wish I had that back when I was leveling my Shaman. But even unglyphed, 15 minutes wasn't bad. 5 hearths an hour!
Bah, wish I had thought of that when I was leveling my Shaman. I haven't seen the Blood Elf starting areas and it would have been cool to experience them.
And I will agree Shamans are amazing. They kind of suck up until you get a fair amount of points into Enhancement, but fuck when you get dual-wield you are a meat grinder with legs.
You should at the very least hit up BE areas for the 10-20 grind. Ghostlands is a fabulously designed zone.
There's also a Shaman trainer in Silvermoon, IIRC.
Thanks for the replies guys. I had a 39 lock from vanilla days. Hated him. deleted him last week because i had 10 toons on the server and no room for a dullknight or a cataclysm character. I deleted my 14 pally cause i want to roll a cowadin come cata. I have a 14 priest but she kills SLOW. I was thinking shammy but there's only 2 starter areas and i dislike both. Undead stink too. Thoughts?
Shamans are amazing. And yes, the starting Tauren and Troll/Orc areas kind of suck, though as soon as I get past the intro stuff I run my Horde characters over to Eversong/Ghostlands anyway, so...
Only thing that sucks is how you have to jump back to TB/Org for training. That eventually becomes not much of an issue once you get Astral Recall and the minor glyph that reduces the cooldown to 7.5 minutes.
God I wish I had that back when I was leveling my Shaman. But even unglyphed, 15 minutes wasn't bad. 5 hearths an hour!
Bah, wish I had thought of that when I was leveling my Shaman. I haven't seen the Blood Elf starting areas and it would have been cool to experience them.
And I will agree Shamans are amazing. They kind of suck up until you get a fair amount of points into Enhancement, but fuck when you get dual-wield you are a meat grinder with legs.
You should at the very least hit up BE areas for the 10-20 grind. Ghostlands is a fabulously designed zone.
There's also a Shaman trainer in Silvermoon, IIRC.
Indeed. I reckon that puts Cataclysm nearer Christmas than summer. I really am going to have to quit for a few months if that's the case.
I was thinking that too. In fact, already canceled for the second time in five years (the first being a period of about 3-5 weeks where I had to concentrate on a thesis). Hit a gear plateau that PUGs can't surpass and ran out of interesting things to get with emblems.
Worgen mage's full set of heirlooms is ready, though.
I've almost got enough seals/emblems for a full set of heirlooms for whatever new class I decide to roll in Cataclysm, but I'm holding off on actually buying them until I find out what they're going to do about heirlooms for the new races and class combos.
Didn't they just say something about heirlooms making you ineligible for first-to-85 achievements? Or are they removing their leveling effects altogether? I got little problem if it's the former, as I wasn't planning to put in 20-hour days working on that with a guild assist anyway.
I don't know. I haven't seen any Blizzard confirmations on anything at all, which is why I've been curious. If you've got any blue links, I'd love to see them.
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Only thing I've heard Blizzard confirm is that they aren't letting people race transfer to Worgen or Goblin until at least after the server has it's first-to-85 achievements covered.
I wonder about heirloom gear though. But I bet it's going to be very scary to see how quickly the first 85 worgen and goblin level. I imagine a raid of 80-85s following around helping somebody powergame through everything. And then that guy is gonna be so empty inside because of missing all the good stuff about the content.
I'm expecting to take about 4-5 months to level my Worgen to 85. I'm totally taking a long ass time and seeing everything I can.
Right now I'm just waiting on what Worgen Druid forms will look like before I buy heirlooms and such. I'm hoping for some great things.
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Thanks for the replies guys. I had a 39 lock from vanilla days. Hated him. deleted him last week because i had 10 toons on the server and no room for a dullknight or a cataclysm character. I deleted my 14 pally cause i want to roll a cowadin come cata. I have a 14 priest but she kills SLOW. I was thinking shammy but there's only 2 starter areas and i dislike both. Undead stink too. Thoughts?
Shamans are amazing. And yes, the starting Tauren and Troll/Orc areas kind of suck, though as soon as I get past the intro stuff I run my Horde characters over to Eversong/Ghostlands anyway, so...
Only thing that sucks is how you have to jump back to TB/Org for training. That eventually becomes not much of an issue once you get Astral Recall and the minor glyph that reduces the cooldown to 7.5 minutes.
God I wish I had that back when I was leveling my Shaman. But even unglyphed, 15 minutes wasn't bad. 5 hearths an hour!
Bah, wish I had thought of that when I was leveling my Shaman. I haven't seen the Blood Elf starting areas and it would have been cool to experience them.
And I will agree Shamans are amazing. They kind of suck up until you get a fair amount of points into Enhancement, but fuck when you get dual-wield you are a meat grinder with legs.
You should at the very least hit up BE areas for the 10-20 grind. Ghostlands is a fabulously designed zone.
There's also a Shaman trainer in Silvermoon, IIRC.
I just get a portal to Dalaran and set my hearthstone there for all my characters regardless of level. Hearth to Dalaran and then take a portal to whichever city is closest to where you want to go.
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That zeppelin got added in after Silvermoon, so kinda moot.
The trek for a shaman isn't too bad, hearth to Org and then a zep to UC, port to Silvermoon, and fly down to the Ghostlands.
Alliance shamans only have Exodar and Stormwind. It really sucks when you're leveling pretty much anywhere except the starter zone & westfall/redridge/duskwood/stv. So pretty much all of Kalimdor and any zone north of Ironforge.
The Silvermoon druid trainer is the only Horde druid trainer on the EK continent. There's 4 of 'em on Kalimdor (Bloodhoof, TB, Moonglade, and the Horde town in Feralas). I remember back in the day when the Kalim continent server would crash and I needed to buy skills or respec but was stuck on EK.
That zeppelin got added in after Silvermoon, so kinda moot.
The trek for a shaman isn't too bad, hearth to Org and then a zep to UC, port to Silvermoon, and fly down to the Ghostlands.
Alliance shamans only have Exodar and Stormwind. It really sucks when you're leveling pretty much anywhere except the starter zone & westfall/redridge/duskwood/stv. So pretty much all of Kalimdor and any zone north of Ironforge.
Why would you set your Hearth in Org?
Set it in whatever town you are currently questing in, fly to Org, Hearth Back.
That way you can jump back to town to turn in quests every 30 minutes too.
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Alliance shamans only have Exodar and Stormwind. It really sucks when you're leveling pretty much anywhere except the starter zone & westfall/redridge/duskwood/stv. So pretty much all of Kalimdor and any zone north of Ironforge.
Alliance shamans only have Exodar and Stormwind. It really sucks when you're leveling pretty much anywhere except the starter zone & westfall/redridge/duskwood/stv. So pretty much all of Kalimdor and any zone north of Ironforge.
Alliance shamans only have Exodar and Stormwind. It really sucks when you're leveling pretty much anywhere except the starter zone & westfall/redridge/duskwood/stv. So pretty much all of Kalimdor and any zone north of Ironforge.
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Because minor patches sometimes including content doesn't sound like a change in distinguishing patches to me.
It sure seems like a change in how they number their patches to me.
Pre-WotLK we had major patches being "content/features/major class changes" and minor revision being "bugfix".
With WotLK we're seeing new raid bosses get only a minor revision bump. We're seeing minor revision bumps stay on the PTR for a month or longer, when we rarely saw it on at all for a minor revision before that (and only for one or two weeks at most??). We're seeing multiple patches not even getting their own patch number.
And of course, (what brought this up) is that we've never seen a x.9 release specifically designed to precede a (x+1).0 release before now, and with the way patch numbers were used in Classic, I'm not sure how that would have made sense (unless we end up getting a 3.4, 3.5, ..., 3.8, which I highly doubt).
Bah, wish I had thought of that when I was leveling my Shaman. I haven't seen the Blood Elf starting areas and it would have been cool to experience them.
And I will agree Shamans are amazing. They kind of suck up until you get a fair amount of points into Enhancement, but fuck when you get dual-wield you are a meat grinder with legs.
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You should at the very least hit up BE areas for the 10-20 grind. Ghostlands is a fabulously designed zone.
I think the point is that major patches didn't change; it's that minor patches have actual content in them now instead of just bug fixes.
Worgen mage's full set of heirlooms is ready, though.
I've almost got enough seals/emblems for a full set of heirlooms for whatever new class I decide to roll in Cataclysm, but I'm holding off on actually buying them until I find out what they're going to do about heirlooms for the new races and class combos.
- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (2017, colorized)
Didn't they just say something about heirlooms making you ineligible for first-to-85 achievements? Or are they removing their leveling effects altogether? I got little problem if it's the former, as I wasn't planning to put in 20-hour days working on that with a guild assist anyway.
There's also a Shaman trainer in Silvermoon, IIRC.
Nope, druid.
I don't know. I haven't seen any Blizzard confirmations on anything at all, which is why I've been curious. If you've got any blue links, I'd love to see them.
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I wonder about heirloom gear though. But I bet it's going to be very scary to see how quickly the first 85 worgen and goblin level. I imagine a raid of 80-85s following around helping somebody powergame through everything. And then that guy is gonna be so empty inside because of missing all the good stuff about the content.
I'm expecting to take about 4-5 months to level my Worgen to 85. I'm totally taking a long ass time and seeing everything I can.
Right now I'm just waiting on what Worgen Druid forms will look like before I buy heirlooms and such. I'm hoping for some great things.
That makes even less sense....
But really I'm guessing they added it more due to the lack of horde druid trainers than anything else.
Shaman trainer is in Org though, which isn't that bad a haul from Silvermoon.
There wasn't in TBC when the zone was made.
The trek for a shaman isn't too bad, hearth to Org and then a zep to UC, port to Silvermoon, and fly down to the Ghostlands.
Alliance shamans only have Exodar and Stormwind. It really sucks when you're leveling pretty much anywhere except the starter zone & westfall/redridge/duskwood/stv. So pretty much all of Kalimdor and any zone north of Ironforge.
Stormwind has every class trainer except Death Knights. More cities should be like that.
Why would you set your Hearth in Org?
Set it in whatever town you are currently questing in, fly to Org, Hearth Back.
That way you can jump back to town to turn in quests every 30 minutes too.
There's a Shaman Trainer in Ironforge.
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Where? I didn't think it had been added yet.
http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=23127
This dude apparently.
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I was using him when I started leveling my Shaman again.
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Also are the 'old' races starter zones going to be redone? Because man goblins do not appeal to me at all.
Insert 'should have got Naga' rant.
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