Only a dragon would think breathing fire on someone was a viable source of healing.
RE: Deathwing's state though, I'm fairly certain that it was said that's a result of his raw hatred and power bursting through his body and threatening to overwhelm him if it's not kept in check by metal plates. Or something.
Only a dragon would think breathing fire on someone was a viable source of healing.
RE: Deathwing's state though, I'm fairly certain that it was said that's a result of his raw hatred and power bursting through his body and threatening to overwhelm him if it's not kept in check by metal plates. Or something.
Hey, so what happens after the encounter with the Lich King? (which I know nothing about in itself)
You can see the cinematic in game if somebody on your server has beaten the Lich King, the fountain in the middle of Dalaran is replaced with a massive monument with a plaque you can click on to view it.
If not, it should be up on youtube
cliff notes version:
Arthas is dying, his father's ghost comforts him. Tirion starts thinking about all of the warnings about there always needing to be a Lich King and goes to pick up the helmet. Bolvar stops him and says it's his burden, and to leave and never come back
That whole scene reminds me of...
...a twisted version of Return of the Jedi where Vader lies dying in Luke's arms. And now along comes Darth Bolvar...
Methinks Chancellor Ner'zuhl has played them all to insure his own survival. :P
I was hoping Mal'ganis would show up at some point to take a stab at Arthas and Sylvannas too and really hoping the Lich King would go down spitting nails and fighting to the very last. Instead he dies like a silly little goose cryin' for momma and whimpering on the floor.
I have just purchased and assembled a badass new computer. Woo!
This brings me to the following question: If I download TBC over Blizzard, can I then use my WotlK disc to upgrade to WotlK? Moreover, does downloading WotlK also install 3.3.x, or do I have to download those separately?
I have just purchased and assembled a badass new computer. Woo!
This brings me to the following question: If I download TBC over Blizzard, can I then use my WotlK disc to upgrade to WotlK? Moreover, does downloading WotlK also install 3.3.x, or do I have to download those separately?
Start by installing the WotLK disc, and then spend some time installing the patches. It doesn't take all that long.
Wait, the WotlK disc has everything on it? As in, I can put it in and hit install, and the entire game will plop down on my hard drive, without having to install Vanilla or TBC first?
I have just purchased and assembled a badass new computer. Woo!
This brings me to the following question: If I download TBC over Blizzard, can I then use my WotlK disc to upgrade to WotlK? Moreover, does downloading WotlK also install 3.3.x, or do I have to download those separately?
If you have the WotlK disc, you shouldn't need anything else. the Lich King DVD has both vanilla and TBC on it and installs in about 1/4th of the time as it would if you actually had the vanilla and TBC discs, not counting how long it would actually take to download the client
I have just purchased and assembled a badass new computer. Woo!
This brings me to the following question: If I download TBC over Blizzard, can I then use my WotlK disc to upgrade to WotlK? Moreover, does downloading WotlK also install 3.3.x, or do I have to download those separately?
If you have the WotlK disc, you shouldn't need anything else. the Lich King DVD has both vanilla and TBC on it and installs in about 1/4th of the time as it would if you actually had the vanilla and TBC discs, not counting how long it would actually take to download the client
I have just purchased and assembled a badass new computer. Woo!
This brings me to the following question: If I download TBC over Blizzard, can I then use my WotlK disc to upgrade to WotlK? Moreover, does downloading WotlK also install 3.3.x, or do I have to download those separately?
If you have the WotlK disc, you shouldn't need anything else. the Lich King DVD has both vanilla and TBC on it and installs in about 1/4th of the time as it would if you actually had the vanilla and TBC discs, not counting how long it would actually take to download the client
OH HOLY FUCK YES THANK YOU
You can also just copy your wow folder to an external hard drive and copy it over. It takes as long as it takes to copy the files!
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edited March 2010
Holy shit, WotLK has Vanilla and TBC on it? Why didn't they make this more obvious?!
If you have the WotlK disc, you shouldn't need anything else. the Lich King DVD has both vanilla and TBC on it and installs in about 1/4th of the time as it would if you actually had the vanilla and TBC discs, not counting how long it would actually take to download the client
damnit....I had to reinstall WoW a couple weeks ago and I used all 10 discs.
Sigh. My first time fighting Blood Queen and we wiped because I couldn't find the second person I was supposed to bite despite the fact that he was standing somewhere behind me...I had problems finding the first person to bite too. Not happy.
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edited March 2010
Went to WoWhead for the first time in a while, saw that they have a place where they're compiling Cataclysm infos - most readable and brief way I've seen it done too.
I'm confused about the talk regarding Armor. It said something about how plate isn't going to be so high in terms of how much more armor it provides over the other types, something to that effect. It didn't make any sense.
Went to WoWhead for the first time in a while, saw that they have a place where they're compiling Cataclysm infos - most readable and brief way I've seen it done too.
I'm confused about the talk regarding Armor. It said something about how plate isn't going to be so high in terms of how much more armor it provides over the other types, something to that effect. It didn't make any sense.
Basically, they're making the armor value of cloth, leather, mail, and plate much less. This is most likely because to threaten plate tanks, they have to frontload so much damage on them it's ridiculous and will one shot anyone with even a fraction less armor. Once they balance out armor amounts on the different types of armor, it'll make content more interesting since they'll be able to spread attacks around more often and one tank taking all the hits won't be as common.
At least, that's what I think they're attempting to do.
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Went to WoWhead for the first time in a while, saw that they have a place where they're compiling Cataclysm infos - most readable and brief way I've seen it done too.
I'm confused about the talk regarding Armor. It said something about how plate isn't going to be so high in terms of how much more armor it provides over the other types, something to that effect. It didn't make any sense.
It means in relation to the other brands of armor, plate won't be so ridiculously high anymore.
Right now your average plate item has something like 1000% the armor of cloth. They want to average that out a bit. Same with stamina.
We give classes a lot of tools and when half of those tools (to exaggerate) aren't ever used, then classes feel shallow. Not every pull will require CC, but more of them will than today.
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edited March 2010
I hope heroics in Cataclysm are properly difficult. Maybe not like in TBC where many of them were harder than Karazhan, but hard enough that it's not just this boring 10 minute jog through the place.
The post nerf heroics in TBC felt of appropriate difficulty, the only stupid bit then was that some classes couldn't get invites to DPS because of the CC requirement but that isn't a problem anymore.
It does say something that, in the case of an accidental double/triple pull in a heroic, you can actually CC one of the adds and nobody gives a shit; they'll break the CC without even thinking because you might as well just AoE everything at once.
Edit: I'd put H HoR as an exception to this because it's the only heroic that I haven't consistently facerolled with LFD.
I almost feel that they should simply hold off on introducing heroics for Cata and future expansions. Both so that the normal level cap dungeons don't become immediately marginalised and so that when they do introduce them heroics can be made more challenging.
You're always going to reach a point where heroics are just 10-20 minutes of AoE. Otherwise people will just bitch about having to actually work for their two Greater Emblems of Victory in an instance they've done 200 times already.
And Arthas reaching out to his father makes perfect sense as his soul was also inside Frostmourne. He too was freed. Don't worry, the Wrath ending is still shitty and should be ignored.
I believe Deathwing got his armor simply for the sake of protection. But the lore is about as solid as my stool, so I'm sure it's been retconned a good five times in three different mediums.
I think I'm the only person only prefered the CC-every-other-mob-or-the-tank-dies approach. As a tank the game was actually a challenge. Ever notice that there are maybe 10% of special abilities than there were in TBC? The one thing I liked was the stealthed mobs in Blood Furnace that could pretty much one shot clothies forcing you to be vigilent throughout the instance. And the fact that a well timed CC/Silence/Stun by a dps was hugely useful if not nececcary, allowing great dps to shine.
And I like the idea of not having heroic modes in on release. Make normals around the same level as current heroics and make Cat heroics hard.
And I like the idea of not having heroic modes in on release. Make normals around the same level as current heroics and make Cat heroics hard.
The trouble is that new level 81 dungeons will be marginalized by the time everyone is 85...but at least there are less levels now, so that all of them should at leat require some vigilance, unlike now.
Huzzah, just what I wanted to do, teach everyone how to CC again.
That was sure as fuck fun to do in TBC when you got a hunter that couldn't trap, or pulled with serpent sting, or a mage that didn't train polymorph. Then you'd have to go back to the city to look for more people. Only this time we get to wait in queue for someone. But, I guess this means faster queues for people that know what they're doing.
Hopefully I get a kick option that says "Cannot CC Properly."
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Yeah that is. I expect them to implement it and then in 5 weeks after people bitch and moan and the only raids/instances that will have it after the first few introduced.
I guess, I just don't see the issue. If you want people to stop using AoEs stop adding 5 adds a pull. Put like 2 really big guys with more life and let people have time to use abilities I guess.
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Huzzah, just what I wanted to do, teach everyone how to CC again.
Hopefully I get a kick option that says "Cannot CC Properly."
As healer the only time I will quit a LFD group is when the tank gets offended that I shackle the one of the undead in the 5 mob pulls after the 2nd boss in H PoS, or in H HoR.
Whats worse is when the tank at 1/3 health and me spamming shields and penance, and he walks over and auto attacks the shackled mob then complains he dies.
Mind you I tank heal ICC10, so I doubt my healing output was insufficient.
Also tanks that pull more mobs when someone is dead or the healer is nearly out of mana or totally out of mana.
Frequently I will say go ahead and pop my shadow fiend but heroics are a bitch for well geared disc, I run out of mana! I really need to start dropping off/swapping out to lower my spell power. Have gone through BOSS fights and not had shield pop, especially with a pally or warrior tank.
I make it a point to not pre-shield DK or bear tanks, many of them assume that because they are not taking damage they can just pull more. Then the shield pops and I can't heal them against 10 mobs because they are not even defense capped or understand the concept of cool downs.
Huzzah, just what I wanted to do, teach everyone how to CC again.
Hopefully I get a kick option that says "Cannot CC Properly."
As healer the only time I will quit a LFD group is when the tank gets offended that I shackle the one of the undead in the 5 mob pulls after the 2nd boss in H PoS, or in H HoR.
Whats worse is when the tank at 1/3 health and me spamming shields and penance, and he walks over and auto attacks the shackled mob then complains he dies.
Mind you I tank heal ICC10, so I doubt my healing output was insufficient.
Also tanks that pull more mobs when someone is dead or the healer is nearly out of mana or totally out of mana.
Frequently I will say go ahead and pop my shadow fiend but heroics are a bitch for well geared disc, I run out of mana! I really need to start dropping off/swapping out to lower my spell power. Have gone through BOSS fights and not had shield pop, especially with a pally or warrior tank.
I make it a point to not pre-shield DK or bear tanks, many of them assume that because they are not taking damage they can just pull more. Then the shield pops and I can't heal them against 10 mobs because they are not even defense capped or understand the concept of cool downs.
I hate to be that guy but I can't say I've run into your problems doing heroic content as Disc. The only time I have mana issues is if I'm holy novaing every aoe pack.
If you're struggling to keep them up against multiple trash packs, are you using pain suppresion? Or power infusion to help crank out some fast heals?
I don't understand why you wouldn't use your shield on the tank every time it falls off or weakened soul drops, you get mana back when it breaks and it gives you the casting haste buff (Borrowed Time) which you can cheat to get penance off faster without consuming the buff. Are you using PoM on the tank every time its off cooldown as well?
I CC in heroic HoR when I'm on my priest. When the mobs on the first bit come out, I fade then shackle. It's not really needed and we could do it without it but god damnit, it makes me happy. Also, in totc5 I MC the lightbearer guys in the 2nd boss trash, they have a neat heal and hit pretty hard.
I would like at least a few pulls where you have to CC, even if it does make people complain. Just a few here and there would keep me happy.
As an ICC tank, I hate it when some goose CCs something outside the room. Especially if it's a ranged target I'm trying to LoS so it doesn't twig the healer or results in me having to run out and smash it up for a few seconds.
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RE: Deathwing's state though, I'm fairly certain that it was said that's a result of his raw hatred and power bursting through his body and threatening to overwhelm him if it's not kept in check by metal plates. Or something.
A fel wizard did it.
That whole scene reminds me of...
Methinks Chancellor Ner'zuhl has played them all to insure his own survival. :P
I was hoping Mal'ganis would show up at some point to take a stab at Arthas and Sylvannas too and really hoping the Lich King would go down spitting nails and fighting to the very last. Instead he dies like a silly little goose cryin' for momma and whimpering on the floor.
This brings me to the following question: If I download TBC over Blizzard, can I then use my WotlK disc to upgrade to WotlK? Moreover, does downloading WotlK also install 3.3.x, or do I have to download those separately?
Start by installing the WotLK disc, and then spend some time installing the patches. It doesn't take all that long.
If you have the WotlK disc, you shouldn't need anything else. the Lich King DVD has both vanilla and TBC on it and installs in about 1/4th of the time as it would if you actually had the vanilla and TBC discs, not counting how long it would actually take to download the client
OH HOLY FUCK YES THANK YOU
You can also just copy your wow folder to an external hard drive and copy it over. It takes as long as it takes to copy the files!
Probably to not confuse people who would think that means they never need a WoW/BC CD Key to make an account, and be angry when that's not the case.
damnit....I had to reinstall WoW a couple weeks ago and I used all 10 discs.
uhhh....Son of a....goose
I'm confused about the talk regarding Armor. It said something about how plate isn't going to be so high in terms of how much more armor it provides over the other types, something to that effect. It didn't make any sense.
Basically, they're making the armor value of cloth, leather, mail, and plate much less. This is most likely because to threaten plate tanks, they have to frontload so much damage on them it's ridiculous and will one shot anyone with even a fraction less armor. Once they balance out armor amounts on the different types of armor, it'll make content more interesting since they'll be able to spread attacks around more often and one tank taking all the hits won't be as common.
At least, that's what I think they're attempting to do.
It means in relation to the other brands of armor, plate won't be so ridiculously high anymore.
Right now your average plate item has something like 1000% the armor of cloth. They want to average that out a bit. Same with stamina.
Edit: I'd put H HoR as an exception to this because it's the only heroic that I haven't consistently facerolled with LFD.
And Arthas reaching out to his father makes perfect sense as his soul was also inside Frostmourne. He too was freed. Don't worry, the Wrath ending is still shitty and should be ignored.
I believe Deathwing got his armor simply for the sake of protection. But the lore is about as solid as my stool, so I'm sure it's been retconned a good five times in three different mediums.
And I like the idea of not having heroic modes in on release. Make normals around the same level as current heroics and make Cat heroics hard.
The trouble is that new level 81 dungeons will be marginalized by the time everyone is 85...but at least there are less levels now, so that all of them should at leat require some vigilance, unlike now.
Of course, they were harder 12 months ago when I wasn't in ICC gear, but I do remember them being easier than Heroics in TBC.
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A pre heroic mode? You're crazy!
That was sure as fuck fun to do in TBC when you got a hunter that couldn't trap, or pulled with serpent sting, or a mage that didn't train polymorph. Then you'd have to go back to the city to look for more people. Only this time we get to wait in queue for someone. But, I guess this means faster queues for people that know what they're doing.
Hopefully I get a kick option that says "Cannot CC Properly."
"LEMME GET M YMOMS CC"
Steam Me
I guess, I just don't see the issue. If you want people to stop using AoEs stop adding 5 adds a pull. Put like 2 really big guys with more life and let people have time to use abilities I guess.
As healer the only time I will quit a LFD group is when the tank gets offended that I shackle the one of the undead in the 5 mob pulls after the 2nd boss in H PoS, or in H HoR.
Whats worse is when the tank at 1/3 health and me spamming shields and penance, and he walks over and auto attacks the shackled mob then complains he dies.
Mind you I tank heal ICC10, so I doubt my healing output was insufficient.
Also tanks that pull more mobs when someone is dead or the healer is nearly out of mana or totally out of mana.
Frequently I will say go ahead and pop my shadow fiend but heroics are a bitch for well geared disc, I run out of mana! I really need to start dropping off/swapping out to lower my spell power. Have gone through BOSS fights and not had shield pop, especially with a pally or warrior tank.
I make it a point to not pre-shield DK or bear tanks, many of them assume that because they are not taking damage they can just pull more. Then the shield pops and I can't heal them against 10 mobs because they are not even defense capped or understand the concept of cool downs.
I hate to be that guy but I can't say I've run into your problems doing heroic content as Disc. The only time I have mana issues is if I'm holy novaing every aoe pack.
If you're struggling to keep them up against multiple trash packs, are you using pain suppresion? Or power infusion to help crank out some fast heals?
I don't understand why you wouldn't use your shield on the tank every time it falls off or weakened soul drops, you get mana back when it breaks and it gives you the casting haste buff (Borrowed Time) which you can cheat to get penance off faster without consuming the buff. Are you using PoM on the tank every time its off cooldown as well?
I would like at least a few pulls where you have to CC, even if it does make people complain. Just a few here and there would keep me happy.