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Win7 isn't showing ID3 tags right (Mostly cover art)

halkunhalkun Registered User regular
Ok, I'm not in the process of tagging my collection, but for some reason media payer (And by proxy my Music window) is not showing the cover art correctly. Either it's pulling my old picture for god-only-knows or not showing anything at all. It's really inconsistent.

== EDIT ==

I thought I figured it out, I add cover art and it's not showing up in my library folder at all! The picture in media player and the one in media center and the one in folder view are all different! (it's either the old one, missing, or the wrong one) I'm tagging are all different!

=== EDIT MORE ===
Wow even my library window is inconstant. It's missing under "album" shows up under "artiest" and has the wring one under "folder"

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    With a decade's worth of music, at 34.4GB, this is why I just play music by folder. There's no way I'm going through every album and single and editing the tags. Bugger that.

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  • halkunhalkun Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Rohan wrote: »
    With a decade's worth of music, at 34.4GB, this is why I just play music by folder. There's no way I'm going through every album and single and editing the tags. Bugger that.

    I'm doing this one and for all...
    But it's pretty crappy I can't even get my cover album art straight because windows can't even display it right

    === EDIT ===
    Holy fucking shit does media player blow. I find out how to update the cover art and the fucking thing overwrote my whole ID3 tag!

    Jesus Christ this should'nt be this hard!

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  • ImpersonatorImpersonator Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Use Picard.

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  • halkunhalkun Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Use Picard.

    I'm using picard. The problem is the windows 7 music folder in album/artiest view completely ignores the id3 tag and uses some other resource.

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  • ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I try Windows Media Player every time a new version comes out. Every time, I give up and switch back to iTunes (which I also despise for its resource hoggery - seriously, Apple, get better Windows platform developers - but it still beats WMP's library). As far as I can tell, iTunes sets the Windows music folder album/artist view correctly too.

    A tip, with whichever you go with: Wikipedia is great for picking up 'mainstream' album art. Amazon too. Also, make an Auto Playlist (WMP)/Smart Playlist (iTunes) to identify untagged media. Then you can go for the easy targets or frequently-listened-to targets first, then work through the remainder more slowly.

    Doing it 'once and for all' makes it tons easier to manage your music, yeah.

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  • IdolisideIdoliside Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I use Winamp's media library to sort my music. Auto-tagging, album art downloader, mass tagging too. SO when i get new music I just bung it in a folder and load it up in the media library.

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  • halkunhalkun Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    So I figured it out...
    The "Music" directory in windows 7 is not a directory but a "Library" that has it's own rules.
    When you put the Music in there, windows 7 will connect to some kind of online music database and attempt to create it's own cover art. For some reason known only to God and Microsoft, you have no ability to override this. Even when you have perfectly valid ID3 tags, window 7 will make up it's own shit in "Album" and "Artiest" view. This broken ass album art database is also used in Media Player 12 and in Media Center to fill in "unknown" album art on the "Album" and "Artiest" level. Surprisingly, and was must infuriating about it, is that when you actually enter the Album folder/access the music in the library or media center, the individual mp3 render with the correct album art.

    Use can use media player to set your own art, but it wipes out your tags and screws with the library.

    It turns out you can go to start and right click on music to turn the library off and turn it into a normal folder. I don't get the cool cover art display, but I'm not minding as it was broken anyway. I'll deal with my album art sticking out of folders.

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  • The DeliveratorThe Deliverator Slingin Pies The California BurbclavesRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Protip: If you want your folders to show a nifty picture in the file browser view, put a picture in them (like the album art) and name it folder.jpg. Back in the day, windows media player would use that image for the album art in it's interface a well, but they've moved to using the embedded album art in the tags now.

    If you want your Picard tags to work properly in WMP you need to go into the settings and tell it to use the older id3v2 version.

    (all this also applies to the Zune software, which for music is far superior anyway, and isn't reliant on Win7's annoying library folders.)

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  • MoudisMoudis Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    If you're using Picard, make sure to set it to output ID3v2.3 tags, Windows 7 doesn't support 2.4. I'm afraid I can't supply you with screenshots (being at work and all), but it's under Options -> Tagging, iirc.

    By the way, Picard has a cover art plugin that will make an attempt to download it, and you can set Picard to either add it to the ID3 tag, or put it in the folder with your files.

    Assuming your tags are the right version, it should show album art in the bottom left corner of the explorer window, and you can set what tags are shown by right clicking the column headers and checking/unchecking what you want.

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