Problems with WoW on Wireless

ApolloTreatingYou

I just moved into my new place and im bumping off the owners wireless router; as he instructed me to do so. My signal is always somewhere between Low and Very Good. I have had some problems with getting disconnected and such but for the most part the internet works fine, things download very fast, etc.

Now here's the problem. When I log into WoW, if it will lets me log in at all, I have a ping of about 4000 and then it kicks me. I really don't understand this because I have played WoW many, many times when I was farther from the routher than I am now.

I'm wondering if I didn't set something up right, or I need to forward a port or something like that.

I have a Linksys Wireless G card (brand new), and I'm pretty sure he also has a Linksys router.

Thanks in advance.

Edit: I thought I should add that when I installed the wireless card, I tried to use the Linksys software that came with it and I kept getting a message like "Network found, but internet not found". I don't know if this has anything to do with it or not. I just use the default Windows connection now.

ApolloTreatingYou

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I found this which leads me to believe it's an issue with WoW itself of with windows. http://www.stevenwood.org/index.php?p=7

Steev

It could be an issue with the router itself. I had problems with the game totally screwing up my first router when I turned in quests. The second router I used had no problem with quest turn-ins, but after an hour of play or so my ping would go through the roof.

Eventually, I got a nice new Linksys router and all is well. The other routers were from Netgear.

fforde

What type of internet connection does he have? Some types of connections (such as satellite) give you great bandwidth but horrible latency.

ApolloTreatingYou

I've been researching it all day and aparrently it's a WoW bug of some kind. And I think it's also new this patch. Noone has any idea how to fix it.

It's a cable modem.

ApolloTreatingYou

Bumping

KungFu

Try forwarding the ports like 3724 and 6112 to your comp (TCP). Try updating your router's firmware from the manufacturer's website. Update your wireless card's drivers.

ApolloTreatingYou

KungFu wrote:

Try forwarding the ports like 3724 and 6112 to your comp (TCP). Try updating your router's firmware from the manufacturer's website. Update your wireless card's drivers.

Edit: Ok, I learned how to foward the ports from this page: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01204p

But are these ports specific to WoW or are these ports that all games use? I ask because I have now tried other games such as Counter Strike and FEAR and had the same lagged out results.

I'm going to try this tonight, really hopeing this is the problem.

Jimmy King

ApolloTreatingYou wrote:

KungFu wrote:

Try forwarding the ports like 3724 and 6112 to your comp (TCP). Try updating your router's firmware from the manufacturer's website. Update your wireless card's drivers.

Edit: Ok, I learned how to foward the ports from this page: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01204p

But are these ports specific to WoW or are these ports that all games use? I ask because I have now tried other games such as Counter Strike and FEAR and had the same lagged out results.

I'm going to try this tonight, really hopeing this is the problem.

The person with access to the router would have to forward them.

Also, I doubt that's the problem. Those are used for the WoW downloader not the game itself. You're getting connected to the game servers and logged in, which suggests to me everything you need there is open.

If it's something broken by the last patch, as you thought a few posts ago, then you'll just have to watch the tech support forums closely to see if anyone posts a fix... it may end up just in one of the normal, non-sticky threads which are only on screen for like 10 seconds and/or hope that it gets fixed quickly with another patch.

If it's all games doing it, though, as it seems to be now then I'd do some more testing. See if you can be in the same room as the router and see how it works, try downloading a large file via http or ftp, etc.

The more I think about it the more I lean towards the possibility that the router may be performing some sort of QoS which is allowing the game connections to go through but seriously limiting their bandwidth in favor of other things it deems more important.

ApolloTreatingYou

Jimmy King wrote:

ApolloTreatingYou wrote:

KungFu wrote:

Try forwarding the ports like 3724 and 6112 to your comp (TCP). Try updating your router's firmware from the manufacturer's website. Update your wireless card's drivers.

Edit: Ok, I learned how to foward the ports from this page: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01204p

But are these ports specific to WoW or are these ports that all games use? I ask because I have now tried other games such as Counter Strike and FEAR and had the same lagged out results.

I'm going to try this tonight, really hopeing this is the problem.

The person with access to the router would have to forward them.

Also, I doubt that's the problem. Those are used for the WoW downloader not the game itself. You're getting connected to the game servers and logged in, which suggests to me everything you need there is open.

If it's something broken by the last patch, as you thought a few posts ago, then you'll just have to watch the tech support forums closely to see if anyone posts a fix... it may end up just in one of the normal, non-sticky threads which are only on screen for like 10 seconds and/or hope that it gets fixed quickly with another patch.

If it's all games doing it, though, as it seems to be now then I'd do some more testing. See if you can be in the same room as the router and see how it works, try downloading a large file via http or ftp, etc.

The more I think about it the more I lean towards the possibility that the router may be performing some sort of QoS which is allowing the game connections to go through but seriously limiting their bandwidth in favor of other things it deems more important.

Ok that sucks.. It's definately not a bug. It happens with all games. The best I can describe it is that the router is just getting clogged up from all the info. Meaning that in WoW if I stand still, sometimes the ping will be ok. As soon as I run into an open area or somewhere with others players it just chokes up.

What is a QoS?

Jimmy King

ApolloTreatingYou wrote:

Ok that sucks.. It's definately not a bug. It happens with all games. The best I can describe it is that the router is just getting clogged up from all the info. Meaning that in WoW if I stand still, sometimes the ping will be ok. As soon as I run into an open area or somewhere with others players it just chokes up.

What is a QoS?

QoS stands for Quality of Service. Basically, most networking hardware and software has the capability to look at network traffic based on port, protocol, etc. and give it priority over other traffic. Usually HTTP and HTTPS traffic are given highest priority whereas stuff on ports not officially assigned to any common service, like what games are going to use, will be given lower priority. This is to help ensure that the more commonly used services will be available to those who want to use them.

I should note that it's also possible for the QoS stuff to be going on at the ISP level rather than at the local wireless router.

I would talk to the owner of the router, see if you can test from within the room to make sure it's not just the actual connection being crappy, ask if they know of any QoS being implemented (just because they don't doesn't mean it's not), test from a friends house if you can to see if it still works fine there, etc.