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Actually it needs a 'game on' sometime, but I currently don't have access to my regular machine to play it on right now.
Chaser was pretty fun.
Also Project IGI 1&2 (not great graphics)
There's a high-def terrain graphics update for it, which makes it look almost modern.
I just looked up Battlezone and wasn't aware they still had a relatively active community going. DropTeam (another game this linked me to) looks interesting as well.
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Where's Operation Flashpoint, guys?
Also, listen to Lork and play Thief already. >:(
Also, Hidden and Dangerous 2 isn't bad as far as shooters go. I had a decent amount of fun with the stealth based single player and all the planning. Felt like a Rainbow 6 game set in the 1940s.
I picked up Black recently, and it's fun, just a little generic.
Operation Flashpoint will give you a full experience though. Two lengthy campaigns with the expansion pack in addition to dozens of single player missions and the prospect of user-made campaigns and missions. Not to mention an in-game mission editor. Shit's ace man. I go back and clear the campaign at least once a year. Nothing more satisfying than rolling out in a M60A3 tank after all.
Origin is the exact same as my Steam, in case you're needing a Support or Assault in BF3.
So I still love Doom & Duke3D. Should I try Rise of the Triad for the first time or has the "over-the-top gore" novelty worn thin in comparison to what we have today? I'm also still wondering about Project Snowblind (kinda-sorta Deus Ex series), all those nameless Dreamcatcher games, Lucas Arts non-Star Wars shooter stuff (like the biker FPS), Kiss Psycho Circus, Heavy Metal FAKK2 (it's from Raven), Interplay's Messiah, etc
I've got Tron 2.0, but should I watch Tron before playing it?
Which is kinda exactly what I was looking for.
This can't be emphasized enough, especially since you can do it over the internet.
project snowblind not really worth your time, not the stuff in the rest of that sentence (Heavy Metal was GoD too, not Raven)
except Messiah, though thats really not a shooter or anything
(LucasArts biker FPS? there's a biker ADVENTURE game - Full Throttle)
most of those companies should, but also try using IGN to look up the company and they have a list of all developed titles as well
though it wont distinguish which are shooters and which are not - though i tried to help a little there by just linking my IGN collection becauase i pride myself on trying to own every great and notable shooter (and their expansion) ever released on the PC
Seriously, co-op multiplayer tactical FPS. If you get in with a decent group of players who don't play it like they do Halo, then it's an awesome experience.
Shame that you can't really find that many people doing co-op on the public servers these days.
...also, I didn't like Wheel of Time at all.
Not sure if it'd be worth playing now as it looks rather dated. I did enjoy Jedi Knight 2 (Force Juuuuump) a lot but didn't play it for so long before leaving it at a friend's house and soon forgetting I ever owned it.
In Conclusion: Duke Nukem 3D.
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Pirates, Vikings, and Knights 2 for crazy melee on a very well made free HL2 mod. (HL2 not required)
And Dystopia, another HL2 mod, is shaping up VERY nicely. Cyberpunk shooter with weird anti-grav hyperspace hacker fights, and a cool class/upgrade system.
On the other hand, I've watched Tron (painful...) and you don't need to see it to enjoy 2.0. Another vote for 2.0 BTW.
As for ROTT, think Wolfenstein 3D more than Doom.
SWAT4 is a fun departure for that very reason, but OTOH, it encourages unrealistic play. People take too many chances with suspects, deploy enough CS to choke the whole damn building to death, and keep plugging away with non-lethal weapons while being shot at by automatic weapons fire. A lot of coop matches end with the whole entry team in a pile on the floor as a result.
And the AI teammates wait far too long before shooting armed, dangerous suspects. You can put CS and a flashbang in a room, order them in, and they'll wait for a suspect to get unstunned, quit coughing, and calmly blow one of them away before neutralizing him. I got so fed up with it I edited the AI files. Also, I applied someone's mod that allows zip cuffs to be used on non-compliant subjects. Which means being able to go up and restrain some bewildered old lady instead of repeatedly tasering her because complaince isn't working.
It's still fun, but I like to impose some self-restrictions. One flashbang and one CS canister each. No stingers, no pepperball. Mirror can be used during initial movement to contact, which is done in a silent manner, but not once the entry has gone "dynamic" and the suspects are aware of the team's presence, putting the pressure on to rescue the hostages as quickly as possible.
MMmmmmmmm...
Also, Team Fortress 2. Yippee!
The Kiss game is pretty well done. It's got some bizarre monsters and settings. Lots of bugs, lots of clowns. And thankfully, there's very little that screams "game based on a cheesy band". It's a fun shooter.
Heavy Metal FAKK2... I remember thinking it was decent, not great. But it's been a long time since I played it and I'm not coming up with any specific opinions, sorry.
Re: Tron 2.0 -- I remember the demo had one seriously annoying jumping puzzle amid all the cool parts. That kinda soured me on the game. Are there any/many other parts like that?
> turn on light
Good start to the day. Pity it's going to be the worst one of your life. The light is now on.
I'm surprised it took until page four until it came up, but I second Max Payne.
I'd like to recommend The Regiment, but I've only played the training missions (computer wasn't upto a decent frame rate, which makes clearing rooms really really hard...)
And whereTF is the Rainbow Six love in this thread?
I'M A TWITTER SHITTER
Yeah, a bit of those, as well as two mandatory Lightcycle areas (that I know of anyway), the LC arena after you're captured and then escaping from a city/server.
Protip: Never, EVER, play Killer App on Xbox (port of Tron 2.0). A lot of the sound just cut out and I died several times in areas I just breezed through on the PC. The only plus is the Over-RIDE mode (team deathmatch where you're on-foot as well as lightscycles) and all the additional character models and color schemes.
FAKK2 was cool in that it was a pseudo-sequel to HM2000 the movie. Interesting combat system. Holding down attack with a melee weapon did your attack chain which increased and modifed based on how much "armor" you had. This is Heavy Metal we're talking about. Julie lost clothing over the course of the game and got armor similar to the movie.
If you liked the second HM movie, find this game. Also, it was done by Relic (I believe).
Also, after hearing about SWAT4, it sounds like what Rainbow 6 should have become instead of just dropping T's left and right. I might have to pick it up now.
CZroe and I have both already completed parts 1 and 2. Part 1 came with the cereal and part 2 was downloadable.
There was also an interesting "bug"...
Despite the disclaimers about the game being "family friendly" with absolutely NO depictions of violence or gore, all you have to do is press the backspace key when selecting a difficulty to see a vestigal remnant from Doom. The text changes from the "soggy" letters to the blood-dripping font from Doom and it lists the episodes from Doom; with names like "Knee Deep in the Dead".
LAWL!
all 3 parts are on HotU
Such a great game. I really enjoyed the single-player and the arcade/multiplayer/challenges. The Timesplitters games have an undeniable personality, however wierd and quirky it may be.
Terra Nova: Strike Force Centauri is a great sci-fi squad-based shooter, with a pretty nice terrain renderer (for the time, anyway), jetpacks, upgrades, etc. And the storytelling's not bad, for a videogame.
I liked System Shock 1 better than the sequel, since I felt the RPG elements detracted from the immersion pretty badly. The first game is in my opinion the best exploration-style FPS ever made; people here would probably vote Metroid Prime, but eh. The controls are really bad by today's standards, though.
The 2 Ultima Underworld games are really good exploration games, too, with more swords and spells and less pew pew pew.
Bungie's Pathways Into Darkness was along the same lines, too, but I don't know if it ever came out on anything but the Mac.
Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth isn't bad. I thought it was going to be a lot worse, anyways, although there's still a lot more shooting than I was hoping for.
The OP asks about the Marathon games. I'd say play them if you can get a co-op group together. The story is great, no question, but I thought the level design was awful and the gameplay so-so. The levels are linear in the DOOM style, and I remember having to jump through hoops like running through a giant river of lava to reach a health station so that I could further into the lava just because there was nowhere else to go. Meh. I'd say just read the story online unless you can play it co-op, but others' mileage may vary.
I'd take Descent 1 & 2 off the "Yay" list if you're going to play singleplayer, for more or less the same reason. There's really no storyline, and it's red/blue/yellow key hunting all the way through. I have great memories of multiplayering these 2 games, though.
Space Hulk 1, which is a DOS game, is sort of a FPS, although it's a lot closer to the board game than to any given FPS. A very, very hard quasi turn-based squad game with great atmosphere (it got me into Warhammer 40K). The sequel is more of a FPS, but it's crap.
different NPC and then being able to switch is fun.
Edit: And the Hitman series. 1 is hard. 2 is better. Not played the others yet.
I dunno if it's been mentioned yet, but a good single player experience would have to the Vietcong games. The first one and the expansion were excellent despite a few snags on realism like the sights. Still worth a shot if you're looking for an alternative shooter that isn't World War II based.
Origin is the exact same as my Steam, in case you're needing a Support or Assault in BF3.
OK, so I saw a few copies of Project I.G.I. 2 (PC) for $5 each at an indie game shop today. Grabbit.
Now that's a PC game I wish I'd played. Looked awful sexy, but I was in college at the time and more than a little busy. If someone makes a console follow-up to it, I'm there.
Armed and Dangerous for the xbox?
Psycho Toxic
Project Eden
And, just asking for the hell of it,
Aquanox 2 Revelation (though not WASD/FPS)