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PAX Prime better than East?
Zuka_Ninja
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Am I the only one who thinks PAX East SUCKS compared to Prime?
• Too many people!
• Tiny venue
• Expo hall is ugly
• etc...
• Too many people!
• Tiny venue
• Expo hall is ugly
• etc...
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Wow, really going all out explaining your problem aren't you?
This is what I think, you're not a great person but sometimes you MAY wear a nice shirt someplace. I'm not saying it's often but there's a chance I bet, maybe.
As for "etc..."? Yeah, I'm pretty sure all the "etc..." is coming from you
Hey guys, they may not be loud to you when your smaking them, but to the person directly in front of you that you're almost smacking with them? yea, they suck!
Let's avoid better or worse.. they have their own flavors. Since this is the inaugural EAST I am sure the first Prime wasn't perfect either.
- Management has been a wonder. I've never gone through a line so efficiently. It was long, but moved like a charm.
- Exhibitors are putting a hell of a show.
- Attended three panels. All of them were brilliant.
Also, whomever thought of having all those bean bags gets a hug from me. I'm probably going to buy one myself.
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So I guess those are the 2 things that I don't like about both Prime and East - the ridiculous wait times to get in and being turned away from every panel that I'm not willing to line up for 1-2 hours.
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Also, people have been using your complaints against PAX Prime since '05.
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Which is why pax is moving to it next year :P
Also, of course East is gonna "suck" it's the FIRST one out there. Give it time.
Would you rather be doing something else? Unlikely.
Simply put, they truly didn't expect to sell out this year
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Have you ever been out to the BCEC? While it's still in the city of Boston, it's in a terrible location. It's surrounded by parking lots, overpasses, and more parking lots. The Hynes, while older and smaller, is so convenient. Walk outside, and you have hundreds of shops and restaurants at your disposal. Walk a bit one way, and you're at the Hynes stop. Walk a bit the other way, and you're at the Copley stop. At the BCEC, you'd have to deal with the terribleness that is the Silver Line. And you thought the Green Line was bad?
This venue is horrid. I miss the convenient layout of the seattle convention center.
Almost every display here is just left overs from Pax prime. Nothing jumps out at you, like the dragon age display from the last pax.
Almost no new games are being showed. APB looks impressive and I can't remember seeing that last year, but Dante's inferno? really??
The people here are rude, though I can't say much because Seattle is almost as bad.
Panels are full before you know it, and some panels don't even bother to show up! (I'm looking at you dungeon master)
The acoustics was terrible during the concerts. You can't hear lyrics, only the trash they attempt to play; though prime has a slight edge over East for shitty concerts.
but there are some great things! Like great restaurants nearby with hotels surrounding the exhibit. The women are far more attractive for some reason.....and the exhibit hall where the key note was delivered is an incredible room.
Lastly, if you are still with me, no one wants to hear how Pax east is sooo much better then prime if you haven't been to both. Nor do we want to hear about the anime convention and how pax east manages it better, of course they do, the people running the show have been perfecting it at prime.
my 2 cents.
Also, where were the rude people? I never got to see any.
Say what? I've been talking to people all day long, at PAX and outside, and have yet to meet a single rude person. Except maybe for one guy, but I think he just needed a nap. Hopefully you have better luck the rest of the weekend!
All this said, PAX Prime '04 is still my favorite year. Some people knock it, but something about it was just magical. And all the fun about any PAX is the people you meet. Each "good year" was one where I bumped into new friends.
In general, it depends on where the people are coming from. If you came to Pax east from the midwest, oh yea, there is a huge difference. I'm from the CT though and the one area where I DO find people rude/crazy are the drivers in Boston/Boston outskirts. Rude is not the word necessarily but rather vicious and idiotic in terms of the driving.
Yeah, I have seen some reckless driving downtown as well. I'm from rural BC, Canada.
PAX04 was Godly epic. No joke. PAX has had different flavors since, but it was the perfect mix of a good venue with not too many people (no waiting in any lines to go see panels or anything like that), and T&G were still approachable at that PAX (not shuttled back and forth to various locations with a schedule tighter than the President's), and it was the con that still had the intimate feel of Necrowombicon (T&G's lan party before PAX existed). And it was open 24hrs (yup, slept on top of wires on the floor of the BYOC). There is no PAX like PAX04, and it can't be replicated again in its current capacity. So, waxing romantic nostalgia aside, the inaugural PAX Prime was damn near perfect.
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To me, the only thing that really has bugged me is simply the massive crowding...having to line up very early for things and then maybe still not get into it = not fun. That would be considerably mitigated by simply moving to the Bayside Expo Center next year (although that is far less centrally located and easy to get to)...that one thing would be very, very beneficial, IMHO. Aside from that, things are quite good...
It could also be mitigated if the enforcers would tally people in line. Start turning people away so you don't wait in line and get turned away at the last second.
And really, massive props to the enforcers for handling what is likely a terribly stressful event, but I just wish they were a tad more knowledgeable. My wife and I had to ask 4 people before we finally figured out where we were supposed to go this morning.
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Actually regardless of its inevitable lack of polish, the first PAX was probably the best ever because it was such a revolutionary event. Never before was there a 24hr/day LAN party (that's how it was in year one) + exhibition + freeplay + music + tabletop + Omegathon etc. It may have been relatively small, but everything was new and unpredictable (like free Bawls getting handed out at like 3 am).
PAX East has been somewhat disappointing for me (not that it wasn't worth coming, it has been and I'll keep coming) because it combines the worst of both worlds. On the one hand, nothing about it is particularly new, not that I blame them. The PAX 'formula' is good, why change it, but still, it's 'the same old same old' but with the added annoyance that there is vastly diminished continuity of community. As PAX grew in WA, every year we had first timers come in who had to be integrated, but veterans always made up such a significant contingent that they mitigated the effect of first timers who usually think that PAX is the expo hall and nothing else. Here though, the ratio is significantly different, and the show feels a lot more awkward because so many people don't know each other or how to get the most out of PAX and the veterans are spread too thin to grease the social wheels. I've talked to several veterans and everybody agrees. It gives a sort of surreal, hollow/empty feeling despite the crowds.
That and while the venue isn't 'too small' per se, the satellite panel theaters are too small. I've been unable to attend almost all the panels I've been interested in because they were full, and aside from the community, it's the panels I come to PAX for.
That said, this is my first time in Boston and I have to say I really love Boston. The architecture here is awesome and the restaurants around the convention center here are much better than the ones near the WSCTC (and I say this as a Seattle native and apologist, it's just that the all the good Seattle restaurants are a mile or more away from the WSCTC). I think next year my wife and I should come up for a full week so we can take in more Bostonacity.
I'm not sure new is the point. While there are folks who would go to a PAX every month ANYwhere, I do think this is meant primarily as a PAX for East Coasters. For most, going to Seattle for PAX Prime isn't feasible, but East Coasters certainly would want the same experience in a PAX, rather than an entirely different experience.
That said, I also felt like most of the exhibitors weren't really "popping". The displays weren't generally all that eye-catching, there was generally a lot of unused space above the booths that could have been more impressively used, there was at least one very notably missing exhibitor (Hello, BLIZZARD?!?!?!!!), and just in general the exhibitors seemed kinda blase and uninterested.
There just wasn't a lot of pizazz... not a lot of spark. I didn't feel like I was being caught up in the excitement of much. It was cool, it was great to see, I really enjoyed being there... but I did expect more.
Honorable mention for the Split Second booth, btw. I think that was very nicely setup. Still not THRILLING, but effective and fun and easy to get into and be a part of. Nice job, guys!
Heck at one booth I couldn't even find a rep from the company. (I'll refrain from mentioning who that is)
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Amen to that! I miss PAX04. It will never happen again and will forever remain only as a part of the lore.
Glad you're liking Boston! I miss it sometimes, but I don't think I'd ever move back. It's one of those places that feels wonderful to have grown up in and wonderful to visit, but I love my Portland too much to leave it now.
If you're happy there that's what matters, but, bleh...
Huh. I did not anticipate this reply from you, at all. Sorry you haven't enjoyed your visits here.
(Aside from the rude people, who bumped into me and told me to screw off)
Loved the people dressed up in video game costumes!
Im looking forward to next years Pax East. My legs are feeling it today. But, its all in good fun.
Cant wait for 2011! Pax East!