Insert something witty here, or not. Either way, this is the 2010 Canadian Supertrip eh?
If you've been a part of the Canadian Supertrip in the past, you know what this is all about. We're a crazy group of tundra-hardened Canucks, who gather our dogsleds together annually on an epic journey to Seattle.
The eastern branch of the trip starts in Edmonton and heads south to Calgary, where it turns westward through the Rocky Mountains into British Columbia. This group continues down through Kamloops toward Abbotsford, where it then crosses into the United States via Sumas, enroute to Seattle. The western branch starts in Vancouver, heading directly south through Richmond and Delta on the way to the Pacific Crossing @ 176th St. These two groups meet just south of Bellingham, where they traverse the I-5 in a mighty caravan southward.
As with previous years, drop some information here if you're interested in joining!
How It Works
The Canadian SuperTrip, or CST, is divided by stops known as Waypoints. A waypoint is our official stop to meet up with other Supertrippers along the route. Most waypoints are located where gas, snacks and washrooms are nearby. Each waypoint is allotted some time for members to get out and stretch their legs, giving everyone a short break. Supertrippers fall into two groups, Drivers and Passengers. Passengers, you are responsible for finding a ride and making your way to the waypoints. Payment comes in the form of your share of gas. Specifics can be arranged with the driver of your vehicle. We drive together in a caravan, keeping the group together between waypoints. The longer the line of cars, the more impressive this whole effort becomes.
If you want to be added to our list of participants, post here or contact b0wser to be added to the list. Use the following format for sending information.Group Leader: This is the group's go-to guy, usually the most active person on the forums/internet. This person's main responsibility lies in relaying status updates between their group and the CST. This person is also responsible for getting their group together to depart from their location.
Location: City, State/Province where you live
Starting Waypoint: Our pre-selected stopping points on the route, pick the one closest to your location. This is where you will be joining Supertrip caravan.
Vehicle: Year, Make, Model
Riders: This includes your confirmed passengers
Unconfirmed Riders: Number of unconfirmed riders not listed here.
Space Available: Seats still available in your vehicle.
Contact: Your e-mail address, in addition you can add your MSN. One cell phone contact is required for each group.
What You'll Need
A Working Vehicle - This is a fairly long trip, and we don't want to scrape your steaming wreckage off the side of the road, so do basic maintenance before you go, meaning: change engine oil, check air filter, top off engine coolant and washer fluid.
Check active and spare tire pressures and tread wear and bring extra oil, coolant, fluids (brake, power steering, anything that ends in "fluid") to top off on the road with.
A spare set of car keys- you never know when you'll lock yourself out, so try to have an extra key if possible!
A Cell Phone - You or one of your riders will need to be carrying a phone. Cell coverage should be adequate along our routes, so a radio should not be required. If you're going you use your phone in the USA, you might want to be mindful about expensive international call charges.
The CST Phone Directory - This is a full contact list of people on the Supertrip. It will be e-mailed to you shortly before departure, this may happen a couple of times.
LEGAL IDENTIFICATION & CANADIAN PASSPORT - A Canadian Passport or an Enhanced ID/DL will be required to cross the border into the United States. If you don't have one, you can't join us. There's no debating it, because you won't be allowed to enter the country without it.
A Gallon Jug of Water - Good for you or your car. Other drinkables are good, but can't go in your car.
Non-perishable snackables - Food for the road, beef jerky is a good mainstay along with trail mixes and anything else you might like. Stay away from ideas like a cooler filled with sandwich fixins. It may sound like a cool idea, but takes up way too much space and is very impractical. Our waypoints are also located near useful amenities.
Frequently Asked Questions
Q: Why bother? If I'm in the Lower Mainland, why not just drive myself?
A: Because it's just not cool to act like an ogre. We had a good turnout last year, and despite some slight miscalculations in timing, I think everyone had a decent time. Besides, it's a whole bunch of Canadians-- and we'll all probably be around for the partying at some point.
Q: How much for a seat if I have no car but want to come along?
A: That depends on the vehicle and how gas is being divided up, contact drivers who have space available to work out an arrangement.
Q: When must I join by?
A: Groups need to be properly identified and confirmed their place in the trip by August 1st. The CCST went with July 1, but our shorter distance lets us work with that extra month. It would be nice to sort out all of the people who need rides, and leaving that until the week before PAX is a terrible idea. If a group decides they want to join after August 1st, they must make sure they're at the appropriate waypoint to make the linkup. Posting here will also still be a great idea, because we'll have an idea that someone is trying to make it.
Q: How can I help make this baby happen?
A: Number One thing anybody can do to help make this happen is word of mouth, point them here, to the official Penny Arcade Expo website and to the forum thread. Participate in the thread, or come loiter in the #paforums_pax channel on irc.slashnet.org
Q: What hotel should I stay at?
A: This is up to you. There are many official hotel partners, and it is strongly encouraged that you book at one of these hotels. You can get more information at the
official PAX hotels page. Don't take too long to book though, because our hotel blocks do fill up quickly.
Q: When is the Canadian Supertrip going to arrive in Seattle?
A: The afternoon of the 2nd. We're not sure exactly when, but early to mid-afternoon should be an adequate span. We like to arrive in the afternoon so that everyone can settle into their hotels and relax for a while, or do whatever else they're going to do.
The Routes
These are arranged in by length, from longest to shortest.
Times are currently only in Pacific Time.
Click on the link to see the GoogleMap routing.
Only 2010 Edmonton to Seattle Update CompleteEdmonton, AB to Seattle, WA (needs Edmonton & Red Deer waypoints)
View Map Here
Edmonton to Calgary
Departure Point: Ikea
Departure Time: 16:00, September 1st (4PM ALBERTA TIME, 3PM PST)
Travel Distance/Time: ~280km/approx 3h
Arrival Point: Tim Hortons @ 1341 32 Ave NE Calgary AB
Arrival Time: 19:00, September 2nd (7PM ALBERTA TIME, 6PM PST)
Downtime: 30m for coffee break
Calgary to Skyline Esso Truck Stop
Departure Point: Tim Hortons @ 1341 32 Ave NE Calgary
Departure Time: 19:30, September 1st (7:30PM ALBERTA TIME, 6:30PM PST)
Travel Distance/Time: ~480km/approx 6h
Arrival Point: Skyline Esso Truck Stop, Highway 1
Arrival Time: 00:30, September 2nd (01:30 ALBERTA TIME, 00:30 PST)
Downtime: 1h30m for gas-up, hearty truck-stop eats, catch up the hour from leaving earlier.
ALL TIMES LISTED IN PST FOR REMAINDER OF JOURNEY, PLEASE ADJUST TIMEPIECE ACCORDINGLY
Skyline Esso Truck Stop to Kamloops
Departure Point: Skyline Truck Stop
Departure Time: 02:00, September 2nd
Travel Distance/Time: ~190km/approx 1h45m
Arrival Point: The Verse, 1885 Trans Canada Highway West, Kamloops BC
Arrival Time: 03:45, September 2nd
Downtime: 20 minutes for meetup
Kamloops to Merritt
Departure Point: The Verse, 1885 Trans Canada Highway West, Kamloops BC
Departure Time: 04:05, September 2nd
Travel Distance/Time: 80km/approx. 1h
Arrival Point: Tourist Info Booth, Junction of Hwy. 5 & Coquihalla
Arrival Time: 05:05, September 2nd
Downtime: 30 minutes maximum for meetup from Kelowna, this one is important because people actually join here even though Info Booth is closed.
Merritt to Abbotsford
Departure Point: Tourist Info Booth, Junction of Hwy. 5 & Coquihalla
Departure Time: 05:35, September 2nd
Travel Distance/Time: 192km/approx. 2h30
Arrival Point: Castle Fun Park, 36165 North Parallel Road, Abbotsford
Arrival Time: 08:05, September 2nd
Downtime: 25 minutes for coffee, donuts, peeing & loitering cause Castle Fun Park isn't open yet
Abbotsford to Sumas Border Crossing
Departure Point: Castle Fun Park, 36165 North Parallel Road, Abbotsford
Departure Time: 08:30, September 2nd
Travel Distance/Time: 31km/1h allotted for variable border crossing time & snacks/gas acquisition
Arrival Point: Bromley's IGA, 315 Cherry St, Sumas, WA
Arrival Time: 9:30, September 2nd
Downtime: wait until everyone makes it through
Sumas to Bow Hill Rest Area
Departure Point: Bromley's IGA, 315 Cherry St, Sumas, WA
Departure Time: 9:30, September 2nd
Travel Distance/Time: 70km/1h
Arrival Point: Bow Hill Rest Area, I5
Arrival Time: 10:30, September 2nd
Downtime: wait until Vancouver group arrives
Bow Hill to Burlington GameStop
Departure Point: Bow Hill Rest Area, I5
Departure Time: ~10:45, September 2nd
Travel Distance/Time: 16km/15m
Arrival Point: GameStop on Marketplace Drive, Burlington
Arrival Time: 11:00, September 2nd
Downtime: 30 minutes
Burlington GameStop to Seattle
Departure Point: GameStop on Marketplace Drive, Burlington
Departure Time: approx. 11:30, September 2nd
Travel Distance/Time: ~145km/approx 2h
Arrival Point: Washington State C&T Center, 800 Convention Pl. Seattle, WA 98101
Arrival Time: 13:30, September 2nd
Vancouver, BC to Seattle, WA (complete)
View Map HereVancouver to Delta
Departure Point: Safeway @ Granville St. & W. 70th Ave
Departure Time: approx. 07:50, September 2nd
Travel Distance/Time: ~21.9km/approx 30m
Arrival Point: Chevron Station, junction of Hwy. 99 & Hwy 10
Arrival Time: 08:20, September 2nd
Delta to Pacific Truck Crossing (Blaine WA)
Departure Point: Chevron Station, junction of Hwy. 99 & Hwy 10
Departure Time: approx. 08:30, September 2nd
Travel Distance/Time: ~21.9km/approx 30m
Arrival Point: Pacific Truck Crossing, 176th Ave
Arrival Time: 09:00, September 2nd
Blaine regroup:
-Drive south until you arrive at H St.
-Left on H St.
-Left on 14th St.
-Group together at the gas station, along the far edge if possible
Blaine to Bow Hill Rest Area
Departure Point: Pacific Truck Crossing, 176th Ave
Departure Time: approx. 9:50, September 2nd
Travel Distance/Time: ~60km/approx 40m
Arrival Point: Bow Hill Rest Area, I5
Arrival Time: 10:30, September 2nd
Downtime: 30 minutes for group merging
Bow Hill to Burlington GameStop
Departure Point: Bow Hill Rest Area, I5
Departure Time: ~10:45, September 2nd
Travel Distance/Time: 16km/15m
Arrival Point: GameStop on Marketplace Drive, Burlington
Arrival Time: 11:00, September 2nd
Downtime: 30 minutes
Burlington GameStop to Seattle
Departure Point: GameStop on Marketplace Drive, Burlington
Departure Time: approx. 11:30, September 2nd
Travel Distance/Time: ~145km/approx 2h
Arrival Point: Washington State C&T Center, 800 Convention Pl. Seattle, WA 98101
Arrival Time: 13:30, September 2nd
Vancouver Island, BC to Seattle, WA (not very functional, suggestions welcome)
Victoria, BC to Tsawassen, BC
Departure Point: Swartz Bay Ferry Terminal
Departure Time: approx. 06:00, September 2nd
Travel Time: approx. 1h35m
Arrival Point: Tsawassen Ferry Terminal
Tsawassen, BC to Delta, BC
Departure Point: Tsawassen Ferry Terminal
Departure Time: approx. 07:40, September 2nd
Travel Distance/Time: approx. 20m
Arrival Point: Pacific Truck Crossing, 176th Ave
Delta to Pacific Truck Crossing (Blaine WA)
Departure Point: Chevron Station, junction of Hwy. 99 & Hwy 10
Departure Time: approx. 08:15, September 2nd
Travel Distance/Time: ~21.9km/approx 30m
Arrival Point: Pacific Truck Crossing, 176th Ave
Arrival Time: 08:45, September 2nd
Blaine regroup:
-Drive south until you arrive at H St.
-Left on H St.
-Left on 14th St.
-Group together at the gas station, along the far edge if possible
Blaine to Bow Hill Rest Area
Departure Point: Gas Station, junction of Hwy. 99 & Hwy 10
Departure Time: approx. 11:00, September 2nd
Travel Distance/Time: ~60km/approx 40m
Arrival Point: Bow Hill Rest Area, I5
Arrival Time: 12:00, September 2nd
Bow Hill to Burlington GameStop
Departure Point: Bow Hill Rest Area, I5
Departure Time: ~10:45, September 2nd
Travel Distance/Time: 16km/15m
Arrival Point: GameStop on Marketplace Drive, Burlington
Arrival Time: 11:00, September 2nd
Downtime: 30 minutes
Burlington GameStop to Seattle
Departure Point: GameStop on Marketplace Drive, Burlington
Departure Time: approx. 11:30, September 2nd
Travel Distance/Time: ~145km/approx 2h
Arrival Point: Washington State C&T Center, 800 Convention Pl. Seattle, WA 98101
Arrival Time: 13:30, September 2nd
Bus Trip from Vancouver to Seattle
There will be a bus group again this year, as an option for those who don't want to drive. If there are any people in the Greater Vancouver area interested in taking the bus, post here.
Greyhound from Vancouver to Seattle
Departure Location: Pacific Central Station, Vancouver (Main Street Sky Train Station)
Bus Number: 6501
Departure Time: 7:45 AM, Thursday September 2nd
Arrival Location: Greyhound Terminal, Seattle (811 Stewart Street, between 8th and 9th, 3 blocks north of Pike Street)
Arrival Time: 12:05 PM
Ticket Cost: $31.75 each way
Discount Rate: Advanced purchase discount if booked 21+ days in advance: $17.70 each way
Riders: Wormdundee, ACC3SS, Infidel, simonwolf, DeVvo
Train Trip from Vancouver to Seattle
NEW! AMAZING! A TRAIN RIDE WITH FOOD, DRINKS, AND ELECTRICITY!
Amtrak Cascades from Vancouver to SeattleDeparture Location: Pacific Central Station, Vancouver (Main Street Sky Train Station)
Departure Time: 6:40 AM
Arrival Location: King Street Station, Seattle (International District Link Station)
Arrival Time: 11:05 AM
Ticket Cost: $35.00 each way
Riders: AbsintheMinded, tr0tsky +1, .Ko
Directions from King Street Station to PAX:
Walk across the street to the 'International District' LINK Station
Take the LINK (Seattle Light Rail) northbound to Westlake Station (Fare is $1.75)
Westlake Station is located on Pine Street between 5th and 6th, Pike is one block south
The WSTCC is located on Pike and 7th (2 blocks away), Sheraton is on Pike and 6th (1 block away), Westlake LINK Station is at most a couple of blocks from any PAX Hotel
Victoria Clipper ferry to Seattle
An alternative to driving is available for Vancouver Island PAXers, Victoria Clipper ferry trip led by SmallLady. We want to get all Clipper riders together on one boat, making each of our individual groups as large as they can be. If you're on the Island, you can save the hassle of driving with this awesome ride! Boarding in downtown Victoria, the Clipper drops you off right in downtown Seattle.
CCS Boat Crew 1
Departs Victoria: Wednesday, September 1st @ 11:30am
Riders: SmallLady, Skimblecat, Nuclearwizard, Yuritau, +1 non Forumer
CCS Boat Crew 2
Departs Victoria: Thursday, September 2nd @ 7pm
Riders: Indy, SpicyMeats, +11 Non forumers
The PeopleUnconfirmed or Debating Joining
robotbebop - Chilliwack, BC
makostrife - Richmond, BC
Bartholamue - Edmonton, AB
WangCore - Edmonton, AB
Sir_Lag +1 - Red Deer, AB
Zionad - Red Deer, AB
Looking For Group
cafeganesha - Vancouver, BC
Angel177 - Edmonton, AB
The Groups
Sorted by location.
Eastern Route
- Edmonton, AB (2 groups, 1 LFG)
LFG: Angel177
Group Leader: Civatrix
Location: Edmonton, AB
Starting Waypoint: Edmonton
Vehicle: 2006 Dodge Dakota
Riders: 3
Space Available: None
Contact: civatrix at gmail.com or skype @ dgjohns
Group Leader: Qwhacker
Location: Edmonton, AB
Starting Waypoint: Edmonton
Vehicle: 2010 Mazda 3
Riders: 3
Unconfirmed Riders: 1
Space Available: 0 seats available
Contact: mc_darrin at hotmail.com / Xbox live:Qwhacker
- Calgary, AB (1 groups, 0 LFG)
Group Leader: HelterSkeletor
Location: Calgary, AB
Starting Waypoint: Calgary
Vehicle: 2004 Chevrolet Impala
Riders: N/A
Unconfirmed Riders: N/A
Space Available: 2 seats available
Contact: ryan at aperturedesign.ca (email and msn) Skype is hgxiphias
- Kamloops, BC (0 groups, 0 LFG)
- Merritt, BC (1 groups, 0 LFG)
Group Leader: Daedaleus
Location: Kelowna, BC
Starting Waypoint: Merritt, BC
Vehicle: 1995 Chevrolet Suburban
Riders: cgstv, nclark66, 3 others and possibly cgkyle
Unconfirmed Riders: 1
Space Available: 0
Contact: japeart at gmail.com
- Abbotsford, BC (3 groups, 0 LFG)
Group Leader: b0wser
Location: Abbotsford, BC
Starting Waypoint: Abbotsford
Vehicle: 2009 Dodge Charger
Driver: deadmetal
Riders: Theros, b0wser
Unconfirmed Riders: ?
Space Available: 1?
Contact: send b0wser a PM
Group Leader: DeadlySherpa
Location: Edmonton, AB
Starting Waypoint: Abbotsford
Vehicle: TBA
Riders: 2
Unconfirmed Riders: n/a
Space Available: n/a
Group Leader: Serenity
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
Starting Waypoint: Abbotsford
Vehicle: Toyota Yaris Hatchback
Riders: 3
Unconfirmed Riders: 0
Space Available: 0
Contact: send me a PM
Western Route
- Vancouver, BC (2 groups, 1 LFG)
LFG: cafeganesha
Group Leader: GeeCee
Location: Tri-cities, BC
Starting Waypoint: Vancouver, BC
Vehicle: 2000 Chevy Blazer
Riders: N/A
Unconfirmed Riders: N/A
Space Available: 3 seats available, please mention if you are BYOCing
Contact: geecee at gmail.com (email, gchat, and msn)
Heading down on Thursday, returning home Sunday evening.
Group Leader: Kirota
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Starting Waypoint: Vancouver
Vehicle: 2009 Chevrolet Cobalt
Riders: 2
Space Available: Not really any Too much stuff to fill up my car with for the LONG trip!!
Contact: cadilae01 at hotmail.com (Email + MSN Messenger)
- Blaine, WA or Bow Hill, WA (0 groups, 0 LFG)
Post-Arrival Cheesecaek Festival
Another emerging Canadian Supertrip tradition! After you've checked in to your hotel, come down to Cheesecake Factory (7th & Pike, directly across from PAX) for some tasty glory. Time to be decided, either 2:00 or 2:30.
Attending
ACC3SS, SmallLady, Wormdundee, tr0tsky, Angel177, b0wser, Serenity, Decius, Theros (m), deadmetal (m)
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I'll be on the greyhound... As usual.
We could always try the train this year...
We did the train for PAX East.
The earlier departure sucked, but it was excessively more comfortable and the border crossing was pretty much non existant.
And if we all check in as a group we'd pretty much have our own (train) car.
On another note, thanks to Seattle's new light rail transit system, Amtrak (train or bus) is no longer a bad option as you can take the light rail from the Amtrak station to the WSTCC.
I like this option; I wonder if it'd end up being less travel time than just taking the Greyhound.
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I say we stick with the tried-and-true, but that's just me.
The greyhound site says the trip is 7 hours though! is there something I'm missing?
EDIT: I realize that might sound a bit rude; I'm honestly just asking if I read the site wrong, or if I got 7 hours mixed up as return trip time and not one way.
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it's 3.5 hours on greyhound, and 4 hours on train or something like that. I'm not opposed to the train.
I feel stupid! I forgot that I'm checking the times that leave from Chilliwack :oops:
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This will be my 4th year
Make sure you're checking roundtrip on the greyhound site, as it's almost the same cost as the train.
As in, you can get breakfast and hang out in it. On the train.
And, as mentioned earlier, the Link Light Rail goes to westlake, from which it is a short jaunt to the convention center. Very convenient!
(I will be taking the train this year. Comfy seats, 120v power outlets, and a restaurant car? It is luxurious.)
Anywho, just thought I'd point that out..
If there's a carpool going from Van on the 1st or early on the 2nd, I may be interested. I'd help out with gas money of course
The train is about four hours, the bus slightly less, and driving usually takes 2.5 hours. But, the train is the only one that does border preclearance.
4 hours qualifies as a long bus/train ride to me :[
I really only need a ride down, as I'm just going to take Greyhound back since I don't care when I get home.
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why are you only staying one day? (also which day?)
most people will be traveling down on Thursday.
Well I'm going for two days, so I only need to stay one night. I just can't afford to stay at a hotel at $150+ a night I was planning on going Fri-Sat.
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That's why you find people to share a room with. I'm staying 4 nights, and it costs me ~200 bucks total.
I don't really have any other friends that would go to PAX.
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Room Sharing = Less Money Spend = More PAX time = Being able to get a ride down to seattle way cheaper on the days other ppl travel
Check out the Room Share thread up above for people looking for spaces, or find your own in somebody elses room, you'll end up saving ALOT more money and making some really great friends. I've meet so many awesome people just by picking up ppl who needed a space.