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AskACapper Quadriplegic Gamer - Custom Button reMapping Petition - 65,500+ C U @ PE?

AskACapperAskACapper Registered User regular
edited June 2011 in Games and Technology
My PLEA TO DEVELOPERS VIDEO! With some Penny Arcade love!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK5kCaGk1CY

Hope the Arcaders are doing great!


Update #1 - an dev sent me this
My name is Bostjan Troha, and I am the CEO of a game developer that's currently working on a full-retail PS3/Xbox360/PC action-adventure game. I've noticed your effort to include custom button remapping in games. We'll put that in our game.
But more importantly, please let me know how would you like us to make games even more enjoyable for you. I am sure you have many ideas and solutions, and we'll be happy to implement them in our games, if at all possible.

hello Penny arcade I hope you guys are doing awesome long time no update. My petition and rocking and rolling I'm over 29,000 signatures and going to PAX East to talk to every developer about but in remapping. You guys got any tips for a PAX newbie. Is the Q&A with the boys always on Friday? Thanks the awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o4Cx6EBFa4

Petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/cu5t0m/petition.html

Be awesome

Chuck the Capper
Petition FAQ: http://www.AskACapper.com/petition

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My Can't Stand Up Routine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqVMhq2-5fA

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited March 2010
    Oops, this got stuck in the moderation queue.

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  • AskACapperAskACapper Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    It cool thanks!

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  • DrswordsDrswords Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I support this fully. I myself suffer from a host of disabilities that makes gaming a little difficult for me. I had a damaged tendon in my left wrist that made my left thumb nigh unusable. And i have nerve damage in my right arm, that makes my response time with keys and buttons ( and the mouse ) slow.

    If it werent for custom keymapping in games on PC, and using my new 360 controller for PC along with Xpadder...i would never get a game played.

    I recently had surgery in january to fix my Tendon in my left wrist. It was a success and im once again learning to use a gamepad. Something that irks me however is that i can not remap sensitive controls like jumping to a trigger or bumper in my 360 games. My right hand is just not responsive enough for jumping like that.

    So im in full support of this petition. I believe controls should be more versatile for the sake of playabllity for everyone.

    Also, Chuck, you are quite good at Modern Warfare... i suck at that game! Lol.

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  • BurnsBurns Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    FYI, the Digg TinyURL is dead?

    edit: forgot to specify which TinyURL.

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    I only posted here for the blue dot.
  • T-boltT-bolt Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Burns wrote: »
    FYI, the TinyURL is dead?
    Worked for me, just clicked it too.

    Signed.

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  • Duck'n'CoverDuck'n'Cover Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I do hope this petition works, vidja games should be accessable to anyone, disability or not. Totally signed.

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  • VeganVegan Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I don't have any disabilities preventing me from playing games, but I do think there's no reason not to have the ability to change button configs. I know I've certainly yearned for it in the past; you don't need to be disabled to be frustrated with poor button layouts.

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  • FightTestFightTest Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Signed~

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Seems like a worthwhile thing to petition for, unlike many internet petitions. I'll sign it.

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  • VeganVegan Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Seems like a worthwhile thing to petition for, unlike many internet petitions. I'll sign it.

    Unlike most internet petitions, it's a reasonable request.

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  • AskACapperAskACapper Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    DucknCover wrote: »
    I do hope this petition works, vidja games should be accessable to anyone, disability or not. Totally signed.

    This is so true it will benefit every gamer at some point in their gaming experience!

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  • AskACapperAskACapper Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Signed also.

    I can't believe you are able to play like this. I salute you man,don't ever lose your strong will,it's inspiring!

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  • AskACapperAskACapper Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Drswords wrote: »
    I support this fully. I myself suffer from a host of disabilities that makes gaming a little difficult for me. I had a damaged tendon in my left wrist that made my left thumb nigh unusable. And i have nerve damage in my right arm, that makes my response time with keys and buttons ( and the mouse ) slow.

    If it werent for custom keymapping in games on PC, and using my new 360 controller for PC along with Xpadder...i would never get a game played.

    I recently had surgery in january to fix my Tendon in my left wrist. It was a success and im once again learning to use a gamepad. Something that irks me however is that i can not remap sensitive controls like jumping to a trigger or bumper in my 360 games. My right hand is just not responsive enough for jumping like that.

    So im in full support of this petition. I believe controls should be more versatile for the sake of playabllity for everyone.

    Also, Chuck, you are quite good at Modern Warfare... i suck at that game! Lol.

    DrSwords thanks for sharing it is comments like yours that fuel the fire!

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  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Wow - you sir are awesome. Not just at games, but your outlook on life is also equally impressive. You're the type of guy that's going to develop some sort of gamepad, or new way to play, and its going to rock.

    Signed.

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  • RemingtonRemington Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I signed.

    So, hopefully this question isn't too stupid, but doesn't quadriplegic mean you can't use any of your limbs? Or have I been mislead this whole time?

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  • AskACapperAskACapper Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Remington wrote: »
    I signed.

    So, hopefully this question isn't too stupid, but doesn't quadriplegic mean you can't use any of your limbs? Or have I been mislead this whole time?

    Thats a fine question - It denotes impairment in 4 limbs some CAPpers can't move any limbs others can move their fingers and arms to some degree and they still are classified as quads. Impairment in 4 limbs to some degree = quadriplegic!

    Thanks for the sigs! please pass them on to friends

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  • FluffyBunniFluffyBunni Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    While I myself am not a capper I fully support this not only for you but for gaming in general. It seems like it would be very easy to code the ability to remap all of the buttons to whatever layout you wanted rather than be forced to choose from predefined configurations.

    /signed

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  • RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Yeah, this is like an actual Important Thing

    Like, might want to mail Gabe and/or Tycho about it Important Thing

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  • AskACapperAskACapper Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Rent wrote: »
    Yeah, this is like an actual Important Thing

    Like, might want to mail Gabe and/or Tycho about it Important Thing
    Doing it now! good call could be very funny stuff. "Why is this still not an option? what year is this?"

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  • DrswordsDrswords Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Yea i believe there should be more support for disabled gamers out there.

    For instance... the Ben Heck one handed controller. This was an amazing advancement to me for people with disabilities. People who have limited use of one arm or hand... can play games with the other!

    Stuff like this needs more awareness, and more support.

    I learned to play games on the computer when i couldnt handle a gamepad anymore. Mouse and keyboard worked for me, cause my slow response time on the mouse wasnt such a chore in MMo's and shooters where i played co op with friends. And even though i barely have use of my left thumb, my four left fingers are in great shape.

    I wish there was more support for things like Mouse and Keyboard on consoles. Some people argue that there is an accuracy advantage and crap like that, and never think about the people who have a hard time working analog sticks.

    I play a game with friends called Grand Chase. Its a 2d beatem up MMO. I could not play this 4 months ago on a gamepad if i tried to. Thanks to surgery im learning how to now ( as part of regaining the use of my thumb back ), but if this game required me to use one or the other i wouldnt be able to play it. The fact that a lot of pc games allow both... both gamepad and keyboard... is a major boost to me. And the boon of remapping that pc games have always enjoyed is also something that console makers are flagging behind in.

    I always remap my keys in any pc game i play.

    Heck... Speaking of remapping keys. I was playing Megaman ZX this morning on my DS ( on easy... ) and i learned you can remap the controls in it. A DS GAME!! with remappable controls!

    If Capcom can do this on a megaman game why cant big titles like Halo allow for this? Presets are a start, but key for key remapping should be standard by now.



    Also. There are a host of diabilities out there. A lot of games dont take into account people who are color blind. Or people who are hard of hearing. I spent my years as a kid mostly deaf before a surgery restored my hearing when i was young. I remember TV being hard to watch cause Closed Captions werent commonplace. And ive always had poor hearing.

    Some games, like the Valve made Left 4 Dead series, have subtitles for everything. Including stuff like a hunter sneaking up on you. Stuff like this needs to be commonplace.

    I wish there was a more realistic way for developers to include the disabled and impaired. I know that it costs extra money to subtitle a game, or research to make menus and keymapping accessible to all.

    If only there were some sort of standardization. Sorta like what Chuck here was getting at. There needs to be a standard set of guidelines and tools for game developers to include the disabled in their plans.

    Im rambling, but my point is, Chuck brought up something very important with his petition. There are millions of disabled people out there who like games as much as anyone else. And they have to deal with things that shouldnt be that hard to correct.

    Awareness is the first step. The second step is to hold the companies that make these games up to the standard.

    Hopefully we can get some awareness out with this.

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  • RemingtonRemington Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    AskACapper wrote: »
    Remington wrote: »
    I signed.

    So, hopefully this question isn't too stupid, but doesn't quadriplegic mean you can't use any of your limbs? Or have I been mislead this whole time?

    Thats a fine question - It denotes impairment in 4 limbs some CAPpers can't move any limbs others can move their fingers and arms to some degree and they still are classified as quads. Impairment in 4 limbs to some degree = quadriplegic!

    Thanks for the sigs! please pass them on to friends

    Aha. Never knew that. Thank you, sir, I've learned something new today.

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  • alternatingAberrationalternatingAberration I am the milk man My milk is deliciousRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Signed fo sho.

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  • AskACapperAskACapper Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Dr S Words busting out the huge post ;)

    I feel if the console manufactures eventually build it into the system the devz wont need to code it at all.

    Check out the Fronza 2 (non button reMapping) video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF9dYQDqzg4

    vs Gran Turismo (full remapping) video...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeejHDjtZEk

    Huge difference in experience!

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  • AskACapperAskACapper Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Remington wrote: »
    AskACapper wrote: »
    Remington wrote: »
    I signed.

    So, hopefully this question isn't too stupid, but doesn't quadriplegic mean you can't use any of your limbs? Or have I been mislead this whole time?

    Thats a fine question - It denotes impairment in 4 limbs some CAPpers can't move any limbs others can move their fingers and arms to some degree and they still are classified as quads. Impairment in 4 limbs to some degree = quadriplegic!

    Thanks for the sigs! please pass them on to friends

    Aha. Never knew that. Thank you, sir, I've learned something new today.

    Glad to help... Always ask questions!

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  • METAzraeLMETAzraeL Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Hell yes, I'll support this.

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Videos are pretty interesting, but maybe you could lower the music volume while you are talking :)
    It's really impressive what you accomplish even when the devs didn't implement full remap, you're a real life inspiration. Keep it up!

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  • ironsizideironsizide You must whip it Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I say it's about time for something like this. Signed (although I misspelled my first name - how dreadfully embarrassing).

    I'm a paraplegic - T5/T6 break so I was very nearly a quad. I'm demolished my left arm over the years: arthritis in my left wrist which severely limit range of motion in that hand, demonstrated lag in reaction time in that arm, and a rotator cuff with three out of four tendons completely ripped in half. And I'm left-handed of course.

    For me the remapping is mostly for the benefit of my left-handedness but I do run into problems with racing sims and wheel setups that require gas and brake pedals. Finding a wheel with analog paddles is pretty tough. And my setup for Gran Turismo is unlike anybody else's and thank goodness I can remap it. I drive my actual car with right hand on wheel and left hand on gas/brake so I'm and thankful I can do that in GT.

    Control methods should never be a barrier to gaming!

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  • GyralGyral Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Signed joyfully. Hell, as a fully able gamer, I still want the option to make every game use the same button to jump. Plus, this is a smart and logical request to make and if game developers don't see the potential gain from an audience this addresses, then fie on them, I say.

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  • AskACapperAskACapper Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    ironsizide wrote: »
    I say it's about time for something like this. Signed (although I misspelled my first name - how dreadfully embarrassing).

    I'm a paraplegic - T5/T6 break so I was very nearly a quad. I'm demolished my left arm over the years: arthritis in my left wrist which severely limit range of motion in that hand, demonstrated lag in reaction time in that arm, and a rotator cuff with three out of four tendons completely ripped in half. And I'm left-handed of course.

    For me the remapping is mostly for the benefit of my left-handedness but I do run into problems with racing sims and wheel setups that require gas and brake pedals. Finding a wheel with analog paddles is pretty tough. And my setup for Gran Turismo is unlike anybody else's and thank goodness I can remap it. I drive my actual car with right hand on wheel and left hand on gas/brake so I'm and thankful I can do that in GT.

    Control methods should never be a barrier to gaming!

    Perfect example! thanks for sharing!

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  • KrunkMcGrunkKrunkMcGrunk Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Capper, you are the man!

    My girlfriend has limited use in her right arm from a brain injury. Make it nearly impossible for her to do anything that requires two hands. Now I'm gonna get her to play games using her chin too. :)

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  • AskACapperAskACapper Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Capper, you are the man!

    My girlfriend has limited use in her right arm from a brain injury. Make it nearly impossible for her to do anything that requires two hands. Now I'm gonna get her to play games using her chin too. :)

    Let me know how she does.. it takes a while to learn but she can be come proficient. My buddies try it and fail hard!

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  • AskACapperAskACapper Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Facebook group so I can keep people updated...
    http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=251905762950

    Looks like the GamePro interview may be a gogo!

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  • wavecutterwavecutter Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    /signed

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  • alset85alset85 Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Absolutely signed and slightly related is this bit of beta software. It strives to make games including Bioshock 2 playable for people who are colourblind.

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    At least on PC there is Xpadder.

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  • AskACapperAskACapper Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    color blind is such an easy fix to let the user pick a color... The odd thing is the 7% of males are red green colorblind (myself included) and male are much of the time the target audience for game makers.

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  • VeganVegan Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Drswords wrote: »
    Yea i believe there should be more support for disabled gamers out there.

    Absolutely, because it could happen to any one of us at any time. I would hate to suddenly lose the ability to enjoy my hobby. And I'm not just talking about crazy accidents; the idea of no longer being good enough for certain games/systems (games that I love to play now) as I get closer to becoming an old man scares the shit out of me. I'm still a spry 28 now, but it's hard not to think about it.

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  • AskACapperAskACapper Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Rent wrote: »
    Yeah, this is like an actual Important Thing

    Like, might want to mail Gabe and/or Tycho about it Important Thing

    If anyone wants to hit Gabe or Tyco go for it... they would rip it up ;)

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  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    alset85 wrote: »
    Absolutely signed and slightly related is this bit of beta software. It strives to make games including Bioshock 2 playable for people who are colourblind.

    EVERY SINGLE MALE in my family is colorblind but me (thanks, genetics!), and my girlfriend is that freak 1 in 1 bazillion of women who are color blind.

    They absolutely LOVE PopCap. PopCap games ALWAYS get around the color blind issues with icons. Peggle, for instance, in color blind mode, has a slight shift in the hue of green, purple and orange (I barely notice it), but puts a very subtile "+" on the green pegs and an upside down triangle on the oranges. My girlfriend says it makes an astounding difference.

    Its little things like that, that just elevate companies to god status. Such a simple thing that makes her so, so happy. They made her loyal to them for life.

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