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Ok so I ordered all the parts by askin in the PC build thread over in G&T, they arrived today, and my roommate helped me put it together for the most part. He left me a couple cables and I followed the motherboard book to hook em up. So I get the monitor out, hook up hte power cables for the CPU and monitor, hook em both up, hit the power button and it wont start.
It starts to start, like the fans start to spin, but only for about a second then it stops. It keeps doin that every 5-10 sec or so, fans run for a sec, then cut off. Nothin seems to be doin anything. The PHASE LED lights on the motherboard light up also, all four of them.
So what do I likely have hooked up wrong? I could probably wait till tomorrow night and have my roommate look at it, but Id like to kinda puzzle it out with you guys. Kind of a teach a man to fish kinda deal
Is there any amount of beeping from your motherboard?
Is the cpu heat sink one of the fans that spins up as you try to start the computer?
Likely first culprits are bad ram, or a cpu heat sink not recognized, or a power supply issue.
Try your ram sticks 1 at a time, and verify that all your power connections are connected and secure.
There's no beeping and all of my fans spin. The one at the top of the case, one on the back, one on top of the CPU chip (is that the heat sink one?), and the one in the power supply. Ill try removing the RAM, I hope its not bad, it was brand new from Newegg.
Sounds like a short. When I built my first computer, I put my motherboard in without using the spacers that came with the case. Make sure there is no metal touching the motherboard. To rule out a short, just take it out of the case and power it on while its sitting on your motherboard box.
Sounds like a short. When I built my first computer, I put my motherboard in without using the spacers that came with the case. Make sure there is no metal touching the motherboard.
I was just about to say that. I did the same thing with my first (and current) build.
I also dont see any metal touching anywhere, other than the screws that hold the motherboard in place. What should I be looking for?
If I am remembering correctly, there should spacers between the screws and the board.
The spacers are for the board and the case. There is no need to use any kind of washer for the screws to the motherboard unless you're particularly paranoid.
Is your case an ATX case? I had the same problem building my computer. It was that the atx had prescrewed in spacers I was unable to remove causing a short. When I changed from a micro-atx motherboard to a full atx motherboard it stopped instantly. Might be the board, but I tried two of those same exact boards and had the same problem.
Did you grab the Antec case off the Building thread? Because that is the one I have it caused the problem till I got a full sized non-micro board.
Is your case an ATX case? I had the same problem building my computer. It was that the atx had prescrewed in spacers I was unable to remove causing a short. When I changed from a micro-atx motherboard to a full atx motherboard it stopped instantly. Might be the board, but I tried two of those same exact boards and had the same problem.
Did you grab the Antec case off the Building thread? Because that is the one I have it caused the problem till I got a full sized non-micro board.
I know it sounds daft but you havent linked up the power button to the reset pin and the reset button to the power pin? I did once and got the exact same issue.
Is your case an ATX case? I had the same problem building my computer. It was that the atx had prescrewed in spacers I was unable to remove causing a short. When I changed from a micro-atx motherboard to a full atx motherboard it stopped instantly. Might be the board, but I tried two of those same exact boards and had the same problem.
Did you grab the Antec case off the Building thread? Because that is the one I have it caused the problem till I got a full sized non-micro board.
I know it sounds daft but you havent linked up the power button to the reset pin and the reset button to the power pin? I did once and got the exact same issue.
you see all those little gold bolts that have hexagonal shafts and a female bolt end on the other side?
those are the spacers.
they get screwed into the case, the mobo screws get screwed into them.
Yeah, I put those in, theres some extra ones left over though, like every time I put a screw through the mobo, its going into a spacer, but theres still more holes that I could put the spacers into. For different size mobos I guess?
Did you plug in the square 4 pin 12v plug for your cpu? It's separate from the ATX plug, usually somewhere near the cpu.
Ok, I found the ATX 12V plug on the mobo and theres nothing plugged into it. So which of these cords to I use? What ever will fit? It looks like theres only one cord that will fit there. Its four prongs, and the cables are yellow and black.
Did you plug in the square 4 pin 12v plug for your cpu? It's separate from the ATX plug, usually somewhere near the cpu.
Ok, I found the ATX 12V plug on the mobo and theres nothing plugged into it. So which of these cords to I use? What ever will fit? It looks like theres only one cord that will fit there. Its four prongs, and the cables are yellow and black.
That should be it, but it's hard to say without seeing it. It should say something on the plug like 12v or CPU or something. If you have the manual for your PSU, check it. But not having that plugged in will cause the behavior you're experiencing (I speak from experience).
Did you plug in the square 4 pin 12v plug for your cpu? It's separate from the ATX plug, usually somewhere near the cpu.
Ok, I found the ATX 12V plug on the mobo and theres nothing plugged into it. So which of these cords to I use? What ever will fit? It looks like theres only one cord that will fit there. Its four prongs, and the cables are yellow and black.
that's your problem and that is the right cord. plug it in and you should be good to go (unless you have some other problem)
incindentally, yellow and black wires means 12 volts, red and black wires means 5 volts.
Ok, that worked! Everything seems to be running fine. Windows is installed, drivers are in.
Just one small problem. The display on the monitor is too big for the screen, no matter what resolution its in. Since Ive never used windows 7 Im not sure how to fix it, I can right click the desktop and choose the resolution, but they're all just a little bigger than what the screen is actually displaying.
Yeah adjust the monitor itself instead of the computer.
Wow. I feel like an idiot now.
ANYWAY!
Thanks to Barrakketh for the solution! This can be locked now.
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I'm laughing so hard at this turn of events
EDIT: Lardalish, you might want to check the thread again to see who suggested you check the 12V ATX connector in the first place. I was just trying to say that you shouldn't feel bad because it's a common mistake.
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Is the cpu heat sink one of the fans that spins up as you try to start the computer?
Likely first culprits are bad ram, or a cpu heat sink not recognized, or a power supply issue.
Try your ram sticks 1 at a time, and verify that all your power connections are connected and secure.
There's no beeping and all of my fans spin. The one at the top of the case, one on the back, one on top of the CPU chip (is that the heat sink one?), and the one in the power supply. Ill try removing the RAM, I hope its not bad, it was brand new from Newegg.
Jordan of Elienor, Human Shaman
I also dont see any metal touching anywhere, other than the screws that hold the motherboard in place. What should I be looking for?
Jordan of Elienor, Human Shaman
I was just about to say that. I did the same thing with my first (and current) build.
Do not engage the Watermelons.
If I am remembering correctly, there should spacers (plastic washers?) between the screws and the board, and then spacers under those.
edit: basically if you find any extra bits you were wondering why you didn't use, they are probably them.
The spacers are for the board and the case. There is no need to use any kind of washer for the screws to the motherboard unless you're particularly paranoid.
Do not engage the Watermelons.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341017
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128420
Thats the motherboard and the power supply Ive got.
So should I take everything out and put all the spacers in? Even if they dont line up with screw holes?
Jordan of Elienor, Human Shaman
Did you grab the Antec case off the Building thread? Because that is the one I have it caused the problem till I got a full sized non-micro board.
Yeah I got the Antec 300 ATX (Here).
So... this just wont work for me? Ill have to get a whole new motherboard?
Jordan of Elienor, Human Shaman
This has solved more PC build problems than I'd like to admit.
you see all those little gold bolts that have hexagonal shafts and a female bolt end on the other side?
those are the spacers.
they get screwed into the case, the mobo screws get screwed into them.
Checked those, they're in right.
Yeah, I put those in, theres some extra ones left over though, like every time I put a screw through the mobo, its going into a spacer, but theres still more holes that I could put the spacers into. For different size mobos I guess?
Ok, I found the ATX 12V plug on the mobo and theres nothing plugged into it. So which of these cords to I use? What ever will fit? It looks like theres only one cord that will fit there. Its four prongs, and the cables are yellow and black.
Jordan of Elienor, Human Shaman
That should be it, but it's hard to say without seeing it. It should say something on the plug like 12v or CPU or something. If you have the manual for your PSU, check it. But not having that plugged in will cause the behavior you're experiencing (I speak from experience).
that's your problem and that is the right cord. plug it in and you should be good to go (unless you have some other problem)
incindentally, yellow and black wires means 12 volts, red and black wires means 5 volts.
It's a 4 pin, P4.
Ah, didn't know that. Cool.
Just one small problem. The display on the monitor is too big for the screen, no matter what resolution its in. Since Ive never used windows 7 Im not sure how to fix it, I can right click the desktop and choose the resolution, but they're all just a little bigger than what the screen is actually displaying.
Jordan of Elienor, Human Shaman
It's a rather common error. As soon as I read the thread title I was going to post about it if no one else had already done so
Wow. I feel like an idiot now.
ANYWAY!
Thanks to Barrakketh for the solution! This can be locked now.
Jordan of Elienor, Human Shaman
De-nied
I'm laughing so hard at this turn of events
EDIT: Lardalish, you might want to check the thread again to see who suggested you check the 12V ATX connector in the first place. I was just trying to say that you shouldn't feel bad because it's a common mistake.
Sorry, Thanks to Sir Carcass!
Jordan of Elienor, Human Shaman