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[SOLVED] Built a computer, doesnt want to turn on

LardalishLardalish Registered User regular
edited March 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
Ok so I ordered all the parts by askin in the PC build thread over in G&T, they arrived today, and my roommate helped me put it together for the most part. He left me a couple cables and I followed the motherboard book to hook em up. So I get the monitor out, hook up hte power cables for the CPU and monitor, hook em both up, hit the power button and it wont start.

It starts to start, like the fans start to spin, but only for about a second then it stops. It keeps doin that every 5-10 sec or so, fans run for a sec, then cut off. Nothin seems to be doin anything. The PHASE LED lights on the motherboard light up also, all four of them.

So what do I likely have hooked up wrong? I could probably wait till tomorrow night and have my roommate look at it, but Id like to kinda puzzle it out with you guys. Kind of a teach a man to fish kinda deal

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  • Captain VashCaptain Vash Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Is there any amount of beeping from your motherboard?
    Is the cpu heat sink one of the fans that spins up as you try to start the computer?

    Likely first culprits are bad ram, or a cpu heat sink not recognized, or a power supply issue.

    Try your ram sticks 1 at a time, and verify that all your power connections are connected and secure.

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  • LardalishLardalish Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Is there any amount of beeping from your motherboard?
    Is the cpu heat sink one of the fans that spins up as you try to start the computer?

    Likely first culprits are bad ram, or a cpu heat sink not recognized, or a power supply issue.

    Try your ram sticks 1 at a time, and verify that all your power connections are connected and secure.

    There's no beeping and all of my fans spin. The one at the top of the case, one on the back, one on top of the CPU chip (is that the heat sink one?), and the one in the power supply. Ill try removing the RAM, I hope its not bad, it was brand new from Newegg.

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  • dooBersdooBers Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Sounds like a short. When I built my first computer, I put my motherboard in without using the spacers that came with the case. Make sure there is no metal touching the motherboard. To rule out a short, just take it out of the case and power it on while its sitting on your motherboard box.

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  • ScosglenScosglen Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Try the RAM, check for shorts. Beyond that I would suggest to take the whole thing apart and reseat all the components.

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  • LardalishLardalish Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    It does the same thing with each stick of RAM.

    I also dont see any metal touching anywhere, other than the screws that hold the motherboard in place. What should I be looking for?

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  • Foolish ChaosFoolish Chaos Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    dooBers wrote: »
    Sounds like a short. When I built my first computer, I put my motherboard in without using the spacers that came with the case. Make sure there is no metal touching the motherboard.

    I was just about to say that. I did the same thing with my first (and current) build.

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  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Unhook any SATA or IDE drives, also pull any expansion cards out and see if the fans will stay on.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Is the power supply any good? Does it have enough watts to run the damned thing?

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  • Foolish ChaosFoolish Chaos Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Lardalish wrote: »
    I also dont see any metal touching anywhere, other than the screws that hold the motherboard in place. What should I be looking for?

    If I am remembering correctly, there should spacers (plastic washers?) between the screws and the board, and then spacers under those.

    edit: basically if you find any extra bits you were wondering why you didn't use, they are probably them.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Lardalish wrote: »
    I also dont see any metal touching anywhere, other than the screws that hold the motherboard in place. What should I be looking for?

    If I am remembering correctly, there should spacers between the screws and the board.

    The spacers are for the board and the case. There is no need to use any kind of washer for the screws to the motherboard unless you're particularly paranoid.

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  • LardalishLardalish Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Is the power supply any good? Does it have enough watts to run the damned thing?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341017
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128420

    Thats the motherboard and the power supply Ive got.


    Lardalish wrote: »
    I also dont see any metal touching anywhere, other than the screws that hold the motherboard in place. What should I be looking for?

    If I am remembering correctly, there should spacers (plastic washers?) between the screws and the board, and then spacers under those.

    edit: basically if you find any extra bits you were wondering why you didn't use, they are probably them.

    So should I take everything out and put all the spacers in? Even if they dont line up with screw holes?

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Is your case an ATX case? I had the same problem building my computer. It was that the atx had prescrewed in spacers I was unable to remove causing a short. When I changed from a micro-atx motherboard to a full atx motherboard it stopped instantly. Might be the board, but I tried two of those same exact boards and had the same problem.

    Did you grab the Antec case off the Building thread? Because that is the one I have it caused the problem till I got a full sized non-micro board.

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  • LardalishLardalish Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Is your case an ATX case? I had the same problem building my computer. It was that the atx had prescrewed in spacers I was unable to remove causing a short. When I changed from a micro-atx motherboard to a full atx motherboard it stopped instantly. Might be the board, but I tried two of those same exact boards and had the same problem.

    Did you grab the Antec case off the Building thread? Because that is the one I have it caused the problem till I got a full sized non-micro board.

    Yeah I got the Antec 300 ATX (Here).

    So... this just wont work for me? Ill have to get a whole new motherboard?

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  • PrimePrime UKRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I know it sounds daft but you havent linked up the power button to the reset pin and the reset button to the power pin? I did once and got the exact same issue.

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  • RynaRyna Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Pull out the CPU, RAM, graphics, and all power cables. Now, put everything in again.

    This has solved more PC build problems than I'd like to admit.

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  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Lardalish wrote: »
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    Is your case an ATX case? I had the same problem building my computer. It was that the atx had prescrewed in spacers I was unable to remove causing a short. When I changed from a micro-atx motherboard to a full atx motherboard it stopped instantly. Might be the board, but I tried two of those same exact boards and had the same problem.

    Did you grab the Antec case off the Building thread? Because that is the one I have it caused the problem till I got a full sized non-micro board.

    Yeah I got the Antec 300 ATX (Here).

    So... this just wont work for me? Ill have to get a whole new motherboard?

    you see all those little gold bolts that have hexagonal shafts and a female bolt end on the other side?

    those are the spacers.

    they get screwed into the case, the mobo screws get screwed into them.

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Did you plug in the square 4 pin 12v plug for your cpu? It's separate from the ATX plug, usually somewhere near the cpu.

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  • LardalishLardalish Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Prime wrote: »
    I know it sounds daft but you havent linked up the power button to the reset pin and the reset button to the power pin? I did once and got the exact same issue.

    Checked those, they're in right.
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    you see all those little gold bolts that have hexagonal shafts and a female bolt end on the other side?

    those are the spacers.

    they get screwed into the case, the mobo screws get screwed into them.

    Yeah, I put those in, theres some extra ones left over though, like every time I put a screw through the mobo, its going into a spacer, but theres still more holes that I could put the spacers into. For different size mobos I guess?

    Did you plug in the square 4 pin 12v plug for your cpu? It's separate from the ATX plug, usually somewhere near the cpu.

    Ok, I found the ATX 12V plug on the mobo and theres nothing plugged into it. So which of these cords to I use? What ever will fit? It looks like theres only one cord that will fit there. Its four prongs, and the cables are yellow and black.

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  • rfaliasrfalias Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Lardalish wrote: »
    Did you plug in the square 4 pin 12v plug for your cpu? It's separate from the ATX plug, usually somewhere near the cpu.

    Ok, I found the ATX 12V plug on the mobo and theres nothing plugged into it. So which of these cords to I use? What ever will fit? It looks like theres only one cord that will fit there. Its four prongs, and the cables are yellow and black.

    That should be it, but it's hard to say without seeing it. It should say something on the plug like 12v or CPU or something. If you have the manual for your PSU, check it. But not having that plugged in will cause the behavior you're experiencing (I speak from experience).

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  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Lardalish wrote: »
    Did you plug in the square 4 pin 12v plug for your cpu? It's separate from the ATX plug, usually somewhere near the cpu.

    Ok, I found the ATX 12V plug on the mobo and theres nothing plugged into it. So which of these cords to I use? What ever will fit? It looks like theres only one cord that will fit there. Its four prongs, and the cables are yellow and black.

    that's your problem and that is the right cord. plug it in and you should be good to go (unless you have some other problem)

    incindentally, yellow and black wires means 12 volts, red and black wires means 5 volts.

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  • rfaliasrfalias Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Yes, that is for the CPU power.
    It's a 4 pin, P4.

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    incindentally, yellow and black wires means 12 volts, red and black wires means 5 volts.

    Ah, didn't know that. Cool.

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  • LardalishLardalish Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Ok, that worked! Everything seems to be running fine. Windows is installed, drivers are in.

    Just one small problem. The display on the monitor is too big for the screen, no matter what resolution its in. Since Ive never used windows 7 Im not sure how to fix it, I can right click the desktop and choose the resolution, but they're all just a little bigger than what the screen is actually displaying.

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  • GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    The monitor doesn't have H/V positioning settings? Have you tried resetting it to defaults?

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  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Yeah adjust the monitor itself instead of the computer.

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  • BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Lardalish wrote: »
    Ok, that worked!

    It's a rather common error. As soon as I read the thread title I was going to post about it if no one else had already done so :lol:

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  • LardalishLardalish Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Yeah adjust the monitor itself instead of the computer.

    Wow. I feel like an idiot now.

    ANYWAY!

    Thanks to Barrakketh for the solution! This can be locked now.

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Lardalish wrote: »
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Yeah adjust the monitor itself instead of the computer.

    Wow. I feel like an idiot now.

    ANYWAY!

    Thanks to Barrakketh for the solution! This can be locked now.

    :cry:

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  • rfaliasrfalias Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Lardalish wrote: »
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Yeah adjust the monitor itself instead of the computer.

    Wow. I feel like an idiot now.

    ANYWAY!

    Thanks to Barrakketh for the solution! This can be locked now.

    :cry:

    De-nied

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  • BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    rfalias wrote: »
    Lardalish wrote: »
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Yeah adjust the monitor itself instead of the computer.

    Wow. I feel like an idiot now.

    ANYWAY!

    Thanks to Barrakketh for the solution! This can be locked now.

    :cry:

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    I'm laughing so hard at this turn of events :lol:

    EDIT: Lardalish, you might want to check the thread again to see who suggested you check the 12V ATX connector in the first place. I was just trying to say that you shouldn't feel bad because it's a common mistake.

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  • LardalishLardalish Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Oh dang, whoops! I feel such the silly goose!

    Sorry, Thanks to Sir Carcass!

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Yay :D

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