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[Stargate Universe] CANCELLED. Last 10 eps still to be aired.
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The latest incarnation of the Stargate Universe has now been cancelled. They'll be airing the last 10 episodes, but then that will be it. Reactions mixed.
It was a show where a cast of these people:
Are trapped on this ship:
ITT we discuss this show. I am also accepting suggestions for the thread title and OP.
UPDATE! Richy's list of things about this show
After weeks of speculation, Syfy just announced that it won't renew Stargate Universe for a third season, putting an end (for now) to the long-running Stargate franchise on the network. The upcoming 10 episodes of Stargate Universe's second season, which will air in the spring, will be the series' last. The news follows the recent cancellation of another franchise Syfy series, the Battlestar Galactica prequel Caprica. The Stargate franchise -- consisting of Stargate SG-1, Stargate Atlantis and Stargate Universe -- has aired on Syfy since 2002. Syfy's slate of returning series includes Warehouse 13, Eureka and Haven, which will be joined next year by new series Being Human, which launches on January 17, the recently greenlit series Alphas as well the Battlestar Galactica prequel movie/backdoor pilot Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome. Stargate Universe has recently averaged a 0.5 in 18-49, below the averages for the Syfy series that have been renewed.
It was a show where a cast of these people:
Are trapped on this ship:
ITT we discuss this show. I am also accepting suggestions for the thread title and OP.
UPDATE! Richy's list of things about this show
Richy from the last thread wrote:
- Robert Carlyle as Nicholas Rush, the show's insane scientist whose jobs include keeping everything from falling apart and babysitting the bunch of incompetent bastards he's stranded himself with while suffering from withdrawal of apparently every addictive substance known to man.
- David Blue as Eli Wallace, a college drop-out who played videogames in his mother's basement until the day he somehow became the second-smartest and most important person on the SG team.
- Louis Ferreira as Everett Young, the SG commander whose only role is being Rush's bitch and reporting to Earth every five minutes.
- Brian J. Smith as Matthew Scott, catholic emo supersoldier.
- Jamil Walker Smith as Ronald Greer, angry black guy.
- Alaina Huffman as Tamara Johansen aka Hospital Barbie. Did she mention she was retired and overdue to be shipped back home and shouldn't be here?
- Elyse Levesque as Chloe Armstrong aka Summer Glau Jr., a shower sex toy.
- Lou Diamond Philips as David Telford, a bitchy bitch who's trying to take command of the mission from Earth using the stones.
- A pair of talking breasts as 2LT Boobsy McTits, who can be relied on for closeups of her ginormous rack in a tight shirt on command.
- Tons of people as a large group of useless whiny cannon-fodder.
- No one as Destiny, the ship, so far the most interesting and lest annoying character on the show.
And because Knuckle Dragger asked nicely, here's my list of things that annoy me about the show so far:
- I can get that the crazy scientist guy is going crazy from working day and night on fixing the ship. But that premise breaks down when you realize they have five stones that give instant real-time communication to Earth, where they have a hoard of experts that could help. How about getting Jackson there to translate everything in five minutes flat, and Carter and McKay to fix it up?
- To make things worse, everyone else is a babbling idiot. It's sad when the most qualified person on the ship is a Mozart, the second-most-qualified is a college dropout gamer, and it goes downhill from there.
- Shower scene. For starters, it is idiotic to have a shower scene when the previous scene established that they were running out of water. And the shower is set up with a glass door and a giant spotlight in the back pretty much for the sole purpose of projecting a silhouette, which the girl conveniently enhanced by standing sideways. And goddammit, why? Did they actually cast a role of "clueless useless sexy girl to use as sex-appeal candy"? Because I don't see what other function she serves on the show. Fuck, Carter only did one shower scene in 10 years of SG1, and it was in the joke episode 200, and it used realistic opaque shower curtains, and it was 5 seconds long, and it served a purpose for a joke that couldn't be done otherwise. That was a good shower scene. This is just showing off boobs.
- Speaking of showing off boobs, there's the two nerds spying on 2LT Boobsy McTits in her underwear and tight top with her tits sticking out like nightclubs. Is every single woman on this show cast to be sex toys?
- Egotistical Asian guy on Earth trying to boss people around through the stones. WTF? What part of "we're out of power" didn't he understand? And have the other guy removed from duty... to put who in charge, exactly? Angry black guy? 2LT McTits? The pushover toy soldier he tried to bully into making a false report? The crazy scientist with no people skills who's already going crazy trying to keep the ship from falling apart? The college drop out peeping tom?
- Speaking of stupid back on Earth, what's with O'Neil's comment last episode that "none of us are qualified for this"? Well, fuck, I guess all those years in the Air Force academy and that special SG training program they introduced in SG1 were a waste, if they're no more qualified than a college drop-out whose only qualification is playing videogames in his mom's basement.
So to summarize, so far it's a much better show than Atlantis ever was.
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Sorry for the play on the title. haven't seen it yet, but judging from the first 9 I am not holding my breath for it to be any good.
Edit:
"Stargate SG-Atlantiverse"
I watched all the episodes so far, because I love the potential the show has. But well, I don't know if I wanna waste any more of my time on this if they're not going to fix any of the terrible acting.
Though I am happy
They bonded quickly.
Literally.
But the the producer was all like
"I hope you like sex! Cause Chloe gets aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrouuuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnnnnnnnnd!~"
and the show became 'Secret life of an American teenager in space'.
Also, the whole 'OH hey! We can use these telepathic stones to go back to Earth and have sex with our wives.....in somebody else body!' is kinda off putting.
Also liked that Young realised that saving one useless girl wasn't worth risking the ship, or was it his desire to get rid of Rush? Who knows.
Didn't like Chloe, the non-combatant, wandering right into the aliens fucking clutches. They're an invading force and you stand in their fucking spotlight? JFC girl. And then Scott going after her and blah, blah. Everything concerning those two undoes any good the show accomplishes.
Also kinda sad that Rush came back that wy, was totally expecting him to just rush out of a jungle one day and knock Young out after piloting the ship there.
It's so fucking easy to hate on Chloe, part of me keeps hoping that I just need to wait and the writers will have her do something that redeems her. But walking right under that breaching pod in the middle of an attack??? That's just being fucking brain dead. Shit, Daniel Jackson and Jonas got military training even though it wasn't their area of expertise. I know Chloe is just a civilian and she isn't supposed to be there But can't Lt Scott train her at least a little bit.....we know she's getting exercise from all the fucking she's doing. We can teach her to go the other way if you see the bad guys cutting a hole in your ship?
Nice to see something a bit more alien than just actors with ridges on their noses or metal eyebrows.
I think my only real beef other than Chloe was just that scene in the end with Rush and Wray. It's was just too....mustache twirling for my taste. I get it that Rush and Young don't like each other....but this....conspiracy shit is just fucking ridiculous in my opinion.
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And it doesn't take military expertise to know that walking up to your attackers and flashing your tits is a bad thing to do.
The first season was entirely written and filmed before it started airing. I doubt the writers were aware of where the mid-season break would occur.
So far, there's a parallel for every major character between the two shows. It may not be directly to a specific character, but certainly to traits of the characters.
And the fact that
Just shows that they can't even have any permanency to their plots.
Destiny is supposed to be an Ancient ship right? How come it doesn't look like any of the other ancient ships we've encountered through the different series? Where are the drones and other ancient technology that we're used to seeing?
And from what I understand this series was supposed to be more "character driven", hence being stuck on a ship in the middle of no where. Did anyone else think that SG1 and Atlantis had pretty good character development? This series seems way too serious for its own good. I enjoy Stargate because it never takes itself too seriously (looking at your BSG), the characters, and the mythology. I felt SG1 and Atlantis did those 3 things perfectly fine, why the change?
Regardless, I'll keep watching it because after 15 seasons of Stargate and a few movies, I'm not ready to let go yet.
Re: the ship
It's old. Like "Ridiculously old, even for the Ancients" old. Like "Civil War ironclad compared to [Insert recently constructed US Battleship here]" old.
My problem with Universe is that it's supposed to be "character driven", yet all the male characters are single-dimensional morons and all the female characters are T&A. So far the most (if not the only) engaging and intriguing character has been the ship AI itself.
They still rely on idiot plots and the idiot in question is Chloe.
I could almost stand to watch it if she wasn't there. Then again every female character is useless in this show. And of the Male characters only Rush,Eli and Black Sergant is worth anything,
OK so where did this IT guy that Tits McGee had the crush on come from? I take it that he was using the stones? Bring in guests any ole time they want and it's just explained away as "oh hes just using the stones"
sigh
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I am prepared to let that go, seeing as we are only half a season in. The little talk Tits McGee had about him to set him up
The reveal at the of that conversation:
Either that or it was just a shameless excuse to get a shot of her in bed?
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Rush himself was hardass--strangling the alien outright. Plus, his fighting the alien mind probe hard enough to see into their minds? Wow.
I was a little confused by Tits McGee's "character development" this episode. (Also, they hadn't had her in her Tits McGree capacity for a few eps...so of course this first one back she looks in almost every shot like she could put porn stars to shame. And while administering to triage had glass cutters. Maybe it was cold in the infirmary?) We've seen that she doesn't get upset when someone else ends up with someone she's attracted to. She's even willing to help said someone else with emotionally trying times...which for this show is like having the wisdom of the ages. This episode, a few lines being heard by the wrong person resulting in a bit of embarrassment and she ends up crying wearing nothing but underwear and her ridiculously tight shirt in bed? (Though at least, judging by fanservice in an earlier episode, she wears
I suppose that's not the same social situation, but if her thing is "inconsistent social behavior depending on a million shades of context"...they just wrote an "erratic" female character. God dammit. Hopefully, TJ will tell her it's nothing personal so they can avoid the "JUST SPIT IT OUT ALREADY" bullshit.
Also, yet another episode that only barely passed the Bechdel test on a technicality (female characters shouting orders or directions to other female characters, or groups of characters that include female characters, in an emergency counts if there's an acknowledgment, right?), even though six female characters appeared and at least four of them had lines. I have to wonder, too, about TJ and McGee both going to Eli at the same time to get the showers fixed. (Incidentally, this one just skirted passing the Bechdel test, but all their lines are toward Eli.) Another character couldn't have asked? Only women care about their hygiene that much in an emergency situation? Young's suggestion, banking on the notion of a sexually frustrated geek asked for a favor by not one but two striking women being unable to refuse, or maybe the same reasoning on their own initiative? McGee's manipulation of Eli in the episode where the lower-ranked people were paranoid about the guys in charge would indicate she knows he can be played that way. Or am I getting too nitpicky?
Fine, I'll leave it alone--but not without one last comment on the plight of female characters on this show, as well as a knock on the aliens. Mars Needs Women is not groundbreaking material on the alien front, even if the aliens are pure CGI. By this I mean, two characters are within line of sight when the aliens break into the ship. Only the female character is taken. I know plotwise why they didn't take the dude--he needed to inform Young that Chloe had been taken, and of course the dude needed his SAG card--and I can even wank it: they already have a male of the species, now they want a female, and she was closest. Here's a suggestion on how they could have made it better--have multiple characters in that section, at least two females and one male. They only take the closest one because she's closest and she's female (they need one), and they run because there's more people there, and the aliens themselves don't seem very inclined to close-quarters fighting.
At least Chloe ended up snuggled up with Lieutenant Lapsed Catholic, rather than Rush. He saved her, and she didn't make moon-eyes at him once! I'm impressed. (I'm also pleasantly surprised the aliens kept her in her clothes when they put her in the tank.)
On the subject of the aliens: yet another bipedal humanoid oxygen-breathing species that all dress and look and sound alike. To go full CGI and have such a failure of imagination, and then tout that as groundbreaking?
The action was decent, and I like that the ship has at least two types of weapon--point defense and big guns. The alien ship looked like it had a face, which was kind of cool, actually. The shuttle rolling through the scout/fighter pods was a little unbelievable, but then, it behaves a little like a gunship, and then the fighters are already having trouble from Destiny's point-defense weaponry. Also on the subject of pods: hurray, a solution of the question from the second (third?) episode of the series.
I also like that there's still nods towards the limited resources now they have food and water going, especially on such minor things as clothes, and such minor clothes as socks. I have a question about the tomatoes and other foods, though: did they have seeds with them, or are they just scarfing down alien food they're growing check out as edible with Destiny's scanners?. (The hydroponics bay indicates the Ancient ship have matter sequencers like the Asgard-enabled Daedalus in the finale of SG-1)?
Wray seems an interesting combination of wary of military power and desirous of power herself. Her seeing right through Young's bullshit is a nice touch, too, though her trusting in Rush...I wonder if she knows he tried to frame Young? When that comes out (because you know it will), will she break with him and maybe even start a third "faction"?
All in all, maybe a C+. Definitely not their worst ep, but not exactly a sparkling example of masterpiece television. I will say this: I want to watch more of the show.
I think
Also, I thought that was Chloe weeping at the end of the episode, over the trauma of getting kidnapped by the aliens.
I dunno. If I were to guess, it's because their names are all generic and short. It's not like these characters are completely devoid of development (cept for maybe Tits McGee).
Lt Scott, Lt. James, Greer. their names are just forgettable.
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Hey, the female characterization may be bad, but they're not that interchangeable. At least not physically.
...heh. Just realized something. Eli referred to the ice planet as Hoth. But the first planet they visited was a desert world. Then "Hoth", then a jungle world. Tatooine, Hoth, Dagobah. Then another Tatooine. They haven't been to Bespin yet, but I think between Hoth and Dagobah they skirted the atmosphere of that gas giant. All we need is for them to go to a more temperately forested world and we have Endor. And all in order, too.
EDIT: Shit, no Yavin IV. Forget it, then.
What about that civilized planet they blew up with the Death Star in Episode IV?