The old Final Fantasy XIII thread is over, but here is another.

Balefuego

Hey you guys can't really be totally done talking about this game can you? We need a thread at least until Bogey and I finish!

Here is the gayest ass trailer ever


But don't let that trailer fool you, despite the seemingly bad dialogue and the overpowering jpop that that video seems centered around, the game is pretty fuckin sweet!


It pretty much has the best FF battle system ever, and I would even venture to say that none of the characters are horrible! Although Snow is pretty boring.



And thats a lot to say for a jrpg.


Really though, the main draw here is the battle system, which is centered around a mechanic called Paradigm Shift



You use these shifts to essentially change your party's classes on the fly mid battle into a variety of customizable combos. This lends the battles not only a fast paced strategic element but it also for maybe the first time ever in an FF game gives them a sense of challenge far beyond the basic "grind until you are the right level and then roll over x fight."

In fact there is almost no grinding whatsoever! You won't even have the option to grind sidequests and shit until almost the end of the game, and then if you want to blow an extra 30 hours doing all that shit well then I guess some people like that.

But it's totally optional!

Anyway lets final some fantasies.

unintentional

put this in every page thank you in advance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZSoM5RjBWM

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PiptheFair wrote:

shamelessly stolen from the g&t thread

Weapon lvl ups and stats for all characters

Lightning

Blazefire Saber (max lvl 26) + Pervoskite -> Flamberge (max lvl 61) -> Omega Weapon 620/620

Axis Blade (max lvl 21) +Adamantite -> Enkindler (max lvl 41) -> Omega Weapon 315/315 + ATB Charge (like haste)

Edged Carbine (max lvl 26) + Pervoskite -> Razor Carbine (max lvl 61) -> Omega Weapon 210/723

Lifesaber (max lvl 21) + Scarleitte -> Peacemaker (max lvl 41) -> Omega Weapon 520/520 + Improved Raise

Gladius (max lvl 26) + Uraninite -> Helter Skelter (max lvl 61) -> Omega Weapon 723/210

Organyx (max lvl 26) + Cobaltite -> Apocalypse (max lvl 61) -> Omega Weapon 750/750 + Leadenstrike(slow atk speed)

Hauteclaire (max lvl 26) + Uraninite -> Durandal (max lvl 61) -> Omega Weapon 711/711 + Stagger Lock(that character can't cause a stagger, others still can)

Lionheart (max lvl 21) + Scarletite -> Ultima Weapon (max lvl 41) -> Omega Weapon 508/508 + Quick Stagger(fills stagger gauge quicker conflicts with gamefaqs that says instant stagger which is a synthesis from multiple item types)

Sazh

Vega 42's (max lvl 21) + Pervoskite -> Altairs (max lvl 41) -> Total Eclipses 812/822

Spica Defender's (max lvl 21) + Scarleitite -> Sirius Sidearms (max lvl 41) -> Total Eclipses 713/911 + Augment Maintenance (Buffs last longer)

Deneb Duellers (max lvl 26) + Pervoskite -> Canopus AMPs (max lvl 61) -> Total Eclipses 608/1125

Rigels (max lvl 26) + Uranitite - > Polaris Specials (max lvl 61) -> Total Eclipses 1006/1014 + Stagger Lock (this character can't cause stagger)

Aldebarans (max lvl 26) + Cobaltite -> Sedalmeliks (max lvl 61) -> Total Eclipses 0/1150 + leadenstrike (slow attack speed)

Pleiades Hi-Powers (max lvl 26) + Pervoskite -> Hyades Magnums (max lvl 61) -> Total Eclipses 1150/0 Paper Tiger (I think low hp?)

Antares Deluxes (max lvl 21) + Urantite -> Fomalhaut Elites (max lvl 41) -> Total Eclipses 610/616 + Chain Boost (quicker chains)

Procyons (max lvl 21) + Dark Matter -> Betelgeuse Customs (max lvl 41) -> Total Eclipses 620/414 + stagger maintenance (longer staggers)

Snow

Wild Boar (max lvl 26) + Pervoskite -> Fatal Pride (max lvl 61) -> Save the Queen 717/717

Paladin (max lvl 21) + Scarletite -> Winged Saint (max lvl 41) -> Save the Queen 510/510 + Improved Guard (not sure what it does)

Rebel Heart (max lvl 21) + Urantite -> Warrior's Emblem (max lvl 41) -> Save the Queen 602/611 + Critical Power Surge (when critical he gets stronger)

Power Circle (max lvl 26) + Scarletite -> Battle Standard (max lvl 61) -> Save the Queen - 925/202

Feymark (max lvl 21) + Urantite -> Soul Blazer (max lvl 41) -> Save the Queen 0/1050 + Enfeeblement (negative effect not sure what)

Sacrificial Circle (max lvl 26) + Scarletite -> Indomitus (max lvl 61) -> Save the Queen 1020/1020 + Paper Tiger (I think low hp?)

Unsetting Sun (max lvl 26) + Pervoskite -> Midnight Sun (max lvl 61) -> Save the Queen 815/205 + Stagger Lock (this character can't cause staggers)

Umbra (max lvl 21) + Adamantite -> Solaris (max lvl 41) -> Save the Queen 410/620 + Improved Ward (Assists his Sentinel skills, not sure how)

Hope

Airwing (max lvl 21) + Urantite -> Skycutter (max lvl 41) -> Nue 526/441 + Critical Shield (I'm assuming Protect at low HP or other status buffs)

Hawkeye (lvl 26) + Pervoskite -> Eagletalon (lvl 61) -> Nue 202/917

Otshirvani (lvl 21) + Scaretite -> Urubtusin (lvl 41) -> Nue 513/713 + Siphon Boost (helps as a Ravager)

Ninurta (lvl 26) + Pervoskite -> Jatayu (lvl 61) -> Nue 612/612

Vidofnir (lvl 21) + Scarletite -> Hresvelgr (lvl 41) -> Nue 305/712 + Defense Maintenance (increases defensive buff lengths)

Simurgh (lvl 21) + Urantite -> Tezcatlipoca (lvl 41) -> Nue 926/0 + Stifled Magic (Unsure)

Malphas (lvl 26) + Pervoskite -> Naberius (lvl 61) -> Nue 832/832 + Paper Tiger (Less hp?)

Aircanto (lvl 26) + Urantite -> Caladrius (lvl 61) -> Nue 608/608 + Stagger Lock (this character can't stagger)

Vanille

Binding Rod (lvl 26) + Pervoskite -> Hunter's Rod (lvl 61) -> Nirvana 715/216

Tigerclaw (lvl 26) + Cobaltite -> Wyrmfang (lvl 61) -> Nirvana 828/828 + Leadenstrike (slowa ttack speed)

Healer's Staff (lvl 21) + Adamantite -> Physician's Staff (lvl 41) -> Nirvana 424/424 + Improved Cure

Pearlwing Staff (lvl 26) + Pervoskite -> Brightwing Staff (lvl 61) -> Nirvana 201/912

Rod of Thorns (lvl 26) + Pervoskite -> Orochi Rod (lvl 61) -> Nirvana 709/709

Mistilteinn (lvl 21) + Scarletite -> Einye's Cane (lvl 41) -> Nirvana 403/802 + Ally KO: Power Surge (gets stronger if any ally dies)

Belladona's Wand (lvl 21) + Urantite -> Malboro Wand (lvl 41) -> Nirvana 403/807 + Improved Debuffing (makes Sab debuff last longer and easier to apply)

Heavenly Axis (lvl 26) + Urantite -> Abraxas (lvl 61) -> Nirvana 403/807 + Stagger Lock (this character can't cause stagger)

Fang

Bladed Lance (lvl 26) + Pervoskite -> Glaive (lvl 61) -> Kain's Lance 753/314

Dragoon's Lance (lvl 21) + Urantite -> Dragonhorn (lvl 41) -> Kain's Lance 962/0 + Stifled Magic

Partisan (lvl 26) + Pervoskite -> Rhomphaia (lvl 61) -> Kain's Lance 307/839

Shamanic Spear (lvl 21) + Urantite -> Heretic's Halberd (lvl 41) -> Kain's Lance 0/941 + Enfeeblement (no idea, debuff of some kind)

Punisher (lvl 21) + Scarletite -> Banescissor Spear (lvl41) -> Kain's Lance 517/731 + Stagger Charge TP (TP gain when you stagger an opponent)

Pandora's Spear (lvl21) + Scarletite -> Calamity Spear (lvl41) -> Kain's Lance 616/830 +Improved Debilitation (increases success rate of SAB spells)

Taming Pole (lvl 26) + Urantite -> Venus Gospel (lvl 61) -> Kain's Lance 921/921 + Stagger Lock (this character can't cause stagger)

Gae Bolg (lvl 21) + Scarletite -> Gungnir (lvl 41) -> Kain's Lance 642/642 + Improved Counter (Plus damage to counter)

enjoy silly geese

Balefuego

I am at the end of chapter 9 by the way, which is probably my favorite chapter so far.

unintentional

Yeah chapter 9 is solid. THREE PERSON TEAM WOO

(everyone watch lightning punch snow in the face)

Cold Salmon and Hatred

i really want to buy this

but i kind of havent started on dead space or bayonetta or any of the approximately 40 games i need to beat in my steam library

plus itd come between this and just cause 2 and ive already spent about 3 hours playing the demo

Balefuego

unintentional wrote: »

Yeah chapter 9 is solid. THREE PERSON TEAM WOO

(everyone watch lightning punch snow in the face)

why did you post it in moonspeak

unintentional

it was the first result for "lightning punches snow"

unintentional

is this better?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q96fopzNSiE

Balefuego

no

no thats not better

unintentional

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWiaT1gOqak

Mr. G

i like snow and hope is the worst

Who has the worst name in the game; I think it is Lightning

unintentional

despite her being the best character, nothing out-stupids "Vanille" as a name

Efesell

Lightning is a code name so that is far more acceptable than someone who is actually named Hope.

Raijin Quickfoot

I was waiting for someone to make this thread.

Finished the game 2 nights ago so now I'm working on achievements.

I planned on taking Neochu down last night but my wife watched a marathon of Teen Mom until 3am.

Balefuego

Efesell wrote: »

Lightning is a code name so that is far more acceptable than someone who is actually named Hope.

but

Hope is a name people have!

Although I guess it's usually a girl's name.

unintentional

Fang is an awesome name

Mr. G

Efesell wrote: »

Lightning is a code name so that is far more acceptable than someone who is actually named Hope.

Lightning isn't her real name?

ok i guess vanille is the worst then

Balefuego

how the fuck is Hope not a real name what planet do you people live on

Efesell

Then again I think Hopes name only bothers me because that one chapter was full of puns.

Mr. G

I do love the 'future-ing up' some of the real names

Oh hey what's up "Serah"

Balefuego

Efesell wrote: »

Then again I think Hopes name only bothers me because that one chapter was full of puns.

pun is not the right word, but yes that was a little on the nose.

unintentional

Efesell wrote: »

Then again I think Hopes name only bothers me because that one chapter was full of puns.

those puns were hilarious in a bad way

BYToady

My niece's name is Hope.

Balefuego

also I think I like Hope just because of all the duos, he and Lightning were the most capable.

I wrecked those sections.

unintentional

Balefuego wrote: »

also I think I like Hope just because of all the duos, he and Lightning were the most capable.

I wrecked those sections.

sazh and vanille were awesome once sazh got haste

Balefuego

by contrast the part where

chapter 7:

Lightning gives Hope to Snow and then you have to control a Hope/Snow combo that does NO DAMAGE EVER AT ALL

was fucking torture

unintentional

Balefuego wrote: »

by contrast the part where

chapter 7:

Lightning gives Hope to Snow and then you have to control a Hope/Snow combo that does NO DAMAGE EVER AT ALL

was fucking torture

That was the first part of the game where I skipped as many fights as I could

Raijin Quickfoot

I think I might trade this in once I get all of the achievements. I just can't see playing through it again.

Balefuego

also I admit I did a little grinding in chapter 9 at that one hallway that has a save point at one end and the other exits into a hanger with another save point and going into the hanger respawns all the enemies in the hallway and all those dudes have the chance to drop incentive chips and give great CP.

I cleared that hallway like 4-5 times before moving on.

Mr. G

Balefuego wrote: »

by contrast the part where

chapter 7:

Lightning gives Hope to Snow and then you have to control a Hope/Snow combo that does NO DAMAGE EVER AT ALL

was fucking torture

Snow just kicked everyone's ass the whole time while Hope sat back and healed him

That is the only part in the game so far where I have done any 'grinding'

Balefuego

but Snow does awful damage compared to Lightning

Efesell

If you have enough spare components to upgrade his weapons a bit that section is not so bad.
Except for those goddamn hoverbikes.

DeShadowC

I like how after you kill the last boss

post end game spoiler

Snow has to ask permission of Lightning to marry her sister. Damn right she'd kick your ass if she chose.

captaink

Balefuego wrote: »

also I admit I did a little grinding in chapter 9 at that one hallway that has a save point at one end and the other exits into a hanger with another save point and going into the hanger respawns all the enemies in the hallway and all those dudes have the chance to drop incentive chips and give great CP.

I cleared that hallway like 4-5 times before moving on.

I didn't do that because OH GOD SIRENS

Balefuego

Wooo onto chapter 10!

Balefuego

So once you are given a choice there is pretty much zero reason to ever use Snow over Fang huh.

Cause she is so much better.

Efesell

I think Snow can potentially be a better Sentinel but that's about it.

But then Fang can debuff and kick ass with nostalgically named spears, so sorry Snow.

unintentional

I taught fang to be a synergist, so now she knows Haste too!

unintentional

I have it on Sazh, Hope, and Fang.
I usually use Snow/Vanille/Fang now

Balefuego

I can't imagine rocking a party without Lightning.

I'll never leave you Light.