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Sometimes I find myself mirroring personalities. For instance, when I'm on the phone with someone I'll use their vernacular and tone of voice when I recognize who they are, almost automatically. I think it disturbs people, but I'm not sure how not to do it. I find myself cringing afterward, thinking; goddamn, did I just use the phrase 'okie-dokie'? Is this a psychological problem, or is it relatively normal?
yeah, it's normal. i think it's actually a sign of a good social development in that you can easily switch between 'languages' and engage with someone on their own terms; don't worry about being 'fake' or worrying that that's 'not you', the reality is that even when we're being our true selves we're acting it out to a degree, so there's nothing wrong with subconsciously acting slightly different to better communicate with someone
Actually, mirroring is a sign of good communication skills. It's a way to set people at ease and show you are actually listening.
Just make sure you aren't crossing the line into mockery. Unless it's really funny.
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Convergence, eh? Cool to learn this sort of thing has a name.
I also feel that I do this quite often--but sometimes it can be important to keep in mind how more acute these changes seem to you than to the people you are interacting with.
Also works with body language in general, not just speech. If you like someone you will start mimicking their body language - which in turn makes them like you.
I have a friend who doesn't have his own singing voice, he can just perfectly mimic others. I have no idea if this is a condition or if it is related to your problem, but know that there are stranger vocal identity issues out there.
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admanbunionize your workplaceSeattle, WARegistered Userregular
edited April 2010
Yeah. This is normal.
I actually do this with IM conversations, which is what made me aware of it. My usual grammar is pretty strict, but I have one friend who rarely capitalizes and avoids punctuation at all costs. Sometimes I think part of the reason I like talking to him is entirely because I can relax and not give a shit.
Also works with body language in general, not just speech. If you like someone you will start mimicking their body language - which in turn makes them like you.
That's human interaction 101 right there. Speech + body language mimicry between strangers is a huge indicator of attraction, willingness to cooperate, or just a sign of non-aggression.
OP: I know it's been said by many others already but everyone mimics to some degree. It's a good thing, part of typical social phenomena.
Convergence is such a core element of human interaction that I've seen PUAs discussing how to take advantage of it -- make an effort to mimic a girl's body language until you overtake her and she starts mimicing you, thereby tricking her into thinking she likes you. Or something.
Edit: shit I just remembered that we're not allowed to mention pick-up artistry in here. I DO NOT RECOMMEND ACTUALLY USING THIS, I WAS SIMPLY ILLUSTRATING HOW POWERFUL CONVERGENCE IS.
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i do this too - if someone has an accent, i have to concentrate REALLY hard to make sure i don't start copying it
this is a really good practice for job interviews though (convergence, not mimicking accents)
i do this too - if someone has an accent, i have to concentrate REALLY hard to make sure i don't start copying it
this is a really good practice for job interviews though (convergence, not mimicking accents)
This is also pretty normal. My mother has a weird variation, though -- she doesn't copy the other person's accent, she just thickens her own.
When she's speaking to me or another close family member/friend, she barely has any accent at all; she has this very neutral, generically British accent with the mildest, slightest, whisper of Ulster in it. You wouldn't notice it unless it was pointed out to you.
When she's speaking with a stranger, however, her accent goes hilariously thick. She starts using expressions she'd never normally use. "Auk jizzus, hau ar ya luv? Aye I'm nat too bad mi'self."
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L Ron HowardThe duckMinnesotaRegistered Userregular
edited April 2010
Man, all that I was going to add has already been said.
All I can add is that it can be used for good, and obviously evil. I find myself doing it sort of consciously to have the person I'm speaking to let down their guard. Not as a PUA, but mostly as basic human interaction with people that I like or want to talk with.
I also am seeing when people do it to me, and it bothers me. So I start doing things and watch them mimic me, in ridiculous ways - and often times they don't know it....
Hahaha, oh man. When I was traveling in Ireland, I ended up unknowingly doing a slight Irish accent. My friends had to tell me to shut the fuck up.
I don't think it enters my speech, but after I watch or listen to stand-up comedy my mental voice uses the speech patterns and timing of the comedian. It is awesome.
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I do the toe tap, but with my finger nail, let's people know I'm thinking.
A friend and I have been doing basically what the OP is talking about for years. Thank god its natural because people just assume we're twins half the time because of how much we act like each other. It scares us too actually.
Just don't do the accents. People think you're making fun of them then. Especially anyone with heavy accents that are made fun of a lot, such as Asians (whole damn continent). They'll go ballistic.
It's really hard though at least for me. I'm not trying to mock anyone but sometimes it just catches on. But it does feel kinda rude. Pausing to control how you talk is a hassle though.
One of my best chums has a bit of a british accent. Even though I've lost mine since moving to Australia as a kid, around him I get an accent and my pronunciation shifts every now and then. Proof from my subconcious that I have an awesome pal!
We also laugh at almost everything one another says, which disturbs and irritates my housemate to no end.
Hahaha, oh man. When I was traveling in Ireland, I ended up unknowingly doing a slight Irish accent. My friends had to tell me to shut the fuck up.
I don't think it enters my speech, but after I watch or listen to stand-up comedy my mental voice uses the speech patterns and timing of the comedian. It is awesome.
This happens to me with books I read. Fuck my thinking patterns after reading some "Pride and Prejudice." Luckily it doesn't slip into my speech too much.
edit: By the way, I'm the same as the OP. Let me tell you, it can be frustrating when you move to Texas and within a week, to your horror, you find yourself saying "y'all" like you mean it.
I do this a bit...but my step-dad does it way too much to an extreme. It's almost embarrassing to watch. He's an HR guy, so that might be part of the reason.
I do this all the time, too...and like Mully, I have to actively force myself not to mimic accents of the people I'm talking with. It's incredibly difficult - it just seems like it's my natural reaction to hearing an accent.
The first time I ever met my British friend's British step-mother, I realized that I was losing the "stop imitating" battle, and doing a kind of half-British accent. Later, my friend told me that her stepmother asked her where I was from, after I left... I always thought that was really funny.
I also did that once to somebody at my old college who had a thick Jamaican accent. I accidently said "thank you" with his accent and, horrified, I tried to walk away really quickly, hoping he hadn't noticed...but he crossed his arms slowly and asked with a slight smile, "where are you from?"...he was a really nice guy though, and I apologized and admitted that I imitate accents when I hear them, without meaning to...and he had absolutely no problem with that. He said, "you confused me!!". :P
This happens to me with books I read. Fuck my thinking patterns after reading some "Pride and Prejudice." Luckily it doesn't slip into my speech too much.
Ah man, and this too. Especially after watching a movie or reading a book like Pride and Prejudice. :P I totally mimic the speech pattern in period dramas.
To the OP - I really, really wouldn't worry about it. If you feel bad if you start doing it, and the person notices, sometimes I've found it de-stressing to just flat-out tell the person: "btw, I do this thing with mimicking accents when I hear them, without meaning to" and people have seemed perfectly understanding about it.
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Apothe0sisHave you ever questioned the nature of your reality?Registered Userregular
edited April 2010
Interesting addition to the already mentioned phenomenon of convergence. Groups of men will tend to converge on the "lowest class" of their group. On the other hand, women tend to try to emulate the manners of speech that indicate the highest status of the member sof their group.
TL;DR - Men like to talk like berks, Women like toffs.
Actually I loose my normal tone of voice after spending lengthy amounts of time reading books.
For example after reading some Proust, I tend to dwell on particular things in conversations, sometimes being more inquisitive than usual. Surprisingly it has in the past spiced things up if I start to get deep into conversations that sends people into thinking about things they tend to overlook.
Edit: didn't see your post up there Spacemilk, glad I'm not the only one. And yes I found my thought patterns really irksome after I read Naked Lunch for the first time.
Actually I loose my normal tone of voice after spending lengthy amounts of time reading books.
For example after reading some Proust, I tend to dwell on particular things in conversations, sometimes being more inquisitive than usual. Surprisingly it has in the past spiced things up if I start to get deep into conversations that sends people into thinking about things they tend to overlook.
Edit: didn't see your post up there Spacemilk, glad I'm not the only one. And yes I found my thought patterns really irksome after I read Naked Lunch for the first time.
Heh. I once went poasting on teh forumz after reading Macbeth for class way back in High School. I got some weird reactions.
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I was working a month-long run with a tech from Cork and realised that by the end of the first day, I was mimicking his accent and speech patterns
He never mentioned it though, so I'm hoping he didn't notice/wasn't offended.
Just make sure you aren't crossing the line into mockery. Unless it's really funny.
Fun fact, it works both ways. if you dislike someone you tend to unconciously display it by talking less like them.
Wow that's really interesting. Think I'll google up 'convergence'.
I also feel that I do this quite often--but sometimes it can be important to keep in mind how more acute these changes seem to you than to the people you are interacting with.
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I actually do this with IM conversations, which is what made me aware of it. My usual grammar is pretty strict, but I have one friend who rarely capitalizes and avoids punctuation at all costs. Sometimes I think part of the reason I like talking to him is entirely because I can relax and not give a shit.
That's human interaction 101 right there. Speech + body language mimicry between strangers is a huge indicator of attraction, willingness to cooperate, or just a sign of non-aggression.
OP: I know it's been said by many others already but everyone mimics to some degree. It's a good thing, part of typical social phenomena.
Edit: shit I just remembered that we're not allowed to mention pick-up artistry in here. I DO NOT RECOMMEND ACTUALLY USING THIS, I WAS SIMPLY ILLUSTRATING HOW POWERFUL CONVERGENCE IS.
this is a really good practice for job interviews though (convergence, not mimicking accents)
This is also pretty normal. My mother has a weird variation, though -- she doesn't copy the other person's accent, she just thickens her own.
When she's speaking to me or another close family member/friend, she barely has any accent at all; she has this very neutral, generically British accent with the mildest, slightest, whisper of Ulster in it. You wouldn't notice it unless it was pointed out to you.
When she's speaking with a stranger, however, her accent goes hilariously thick. She starts using expressions she'd never normally use. "Auk jizzus, hau ar ya luv? Aye I'm nat too bad mi'self."
All I can add is that it can be used for good, and obviously evil. I find myself doing it sort of consciously to have the person I'm speaking to let down their guard. Not as a PUA, but mostly as basic human interaction with people that I like or want to talk with.
I also am seeing when people do it to me, and it bothers me. So I start doing things and watch them mimic me, in ridiculous ways - and often times they don't know it....
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I don't think it enters my speech, but after I watch or listen to stand-up comedy my mental voice uses the speech patterns and timing of the comedian. It is awesome.
....anyone?
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I do the toe tap, but with my finger nail, let's people know I'm thinking.
A friend and I have been doing basically what the OP is talking about for years. Thank god its natural because people just assume we're twins half the time because of how much we act like each other. It scares us too actually.
We also laugh at almost everything one another says, which disturbs and irritates my housemate to no end.
edit: By the way, I'm the same as the OP. Let me tell you, it can be frustrating when you move to Texas and within a week, to your horror, you find yourself saying "y'all" like you mean it.
The first time I ever met my British friend's British step-mother, I realized that I was losing the "stop imitating" battle, and doing a kind of half-British accent. Later, my friend told me that her stepmother asked her where I was from, after I left... I always thought that was really funny.
I also did that once to somebody at my old college who had a thick Jamaican accent. I accidently said "thank you" with his accent and, horrified, I tried to walk away really quickly, hoping he hadn't noticed...but he crossed his arms slowly and asked with a slight smile, "where are you from?"...he was a really nice guy though, and I apologized and admitted that I imitate accents when I hear them, without meaning to...and he had absolutely no problem with that. He said, "you confused me!!". :P
Ah man, and this too. Especially after watching a movie or reading a book like Pride and Prejudice. :P I totally mimic the speech pattern in period dramas.
To the OP - I really, really wouldn't worry about it. If you feel bad if you start doing it, and the person notices, sometimes I've found it de-stressing to just flat-out tell the person: "btw, I do this thing with mimicking accents when I hear them, without meaning to" and people have seemed perfectly understanding about it.
TL;DR - Men like to talk like berks, Women like toffs.
For example after reading some Proust, I tend to dwell on particular things in conversations, sometimes being more inquisitive than usual. Surprisingly it has in the past spiced things up if I start to get deep into conversations that sends people into thinking about things they tend to overlook.
Edit: didn't see your post up there Spacemilk, glad I'm not the only one. And yes I found my thought patterns really irksome after I read Naked Lunch for the first time.
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Given this is a topic about speech and language, I cannot help myself.
THE WORD YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IS "LOSE"
Loose relates to TIGHTNESS
Lose relates to POSSESSION
I swear that mistake is a cancer infecting the internet.
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That's impressive. I never really thought of a laugh as something that could be controlled without sounding fake.