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Game music thesis: player community

KireGoTIKireGoTI Registered User regular
edited April 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
Hey there,

A few months ago, I asked if anyone knew of some games with interesting music that I could use towards writing a thesis on the topic. Since then, I've followed up on those leads and done a lot of research, and the final product is pretty much put together, but my advisor has one more major task for me.

Basically, I say in my thesis that video game music forms an "imagined community," where people in different locations feel that they share experience with others because they are experiencing the same media at a distance. I'm trying to make the stronger point that this does come together as a multitude of small cultures and that players learn game music the same way that people might learn a folk song, so that it becomes shared cultural information. My advisor wants me to explain more concretely how this music forms a culture and brings together a community of players. I feel that specific examples would be really helpful.

To me, this forum feels like the place to turn. Penny Arcade links into this huge culture of gamers that somehow forms around this medium. If I'm going to find any leads, it's going to be here.

I already have some data to use, but I thought I would still field the question in this space: What do you think are some really significant examples of gamers reacting to and coming together around game music as a community?

Thanks in advance for any info!

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  • Seattle ThreadSeattle Thread Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
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    Also maybe some Castlevania soundtracks

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  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Halo had a pretty memorable soundtrack, everyone knows that theme

    Mario

    There's also a game music thread somewhere on the G+T forum, you might want to look that up

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  • CowSharkCowShark Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Significant examples of games wherein the music brought people together? (like video game names)

    Or examples of the community doing shit? (like http://ocremix.org/, or video game music cover bands?)

    Or anecdotal shit? (like how my friends in high school made a game out of humming Mega Man stage music, the "Guess The Stage Music" game?)

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  • ConnorConnor Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I'd say it's a great thesis. It is in fact very similar to the processes Jerry (Tycho) believes unites gamer culture.

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  • WassermeloneWassermelone Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    How could anyone not mention "Still Alive"?

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  • VenochVenoch Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    BRAID

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  • ConnorConnor Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I think this Zelda song is about the only thing that links me with these dudes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovXo6bZqjaA

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  • ReznikReznik Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    The Metal Gear Solid Alert music and almost any Final Fantasy boss music (my pick is VII) produce pretty universal 'oh shit!' responses, I think. You know it's on when you hear !

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I assume you have already written extensively about Video Games Live. :P

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  • GreasyKidsStuffGreasyKidsStuff MOMMM! ROAST BEEF WANTS TO KISS GIRLS ON THE TITTIES!Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    You gotta mention that just about everybody will recognize the Mario theme, gamer or not.

    Anecdotal story, a guy in my glass had the Legend of Zelda "puzzle solved" jingle has a ringer on his phone, and when it went off during a lecture, I literally almost jumped out of my seat with excitement and yelled "NO WAY".

    So uh, yeah. Shared culture and all that.

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    admanb wrote: »
    I assume you have already written extensively about Video Games Live. :P

    VGL is a good example.

    I'd also mention that there are quite a few bands that play some or a lot of video game music. My favorite is Contraband (they have a few Youtube videos). They have someone play Contra behind them while the band plays the music from the game.

    And a couple of anecdotal things... I have some friends who had a band at one point. During a practice session they all of a sudden burst into the Halo theme. Their guitarist does NOT play Halo, or really any video games. (They also played Dancing Mad from FFVI at a couple of gigs. I couldn't get them to play Devil's Lab, though...).

    Then there are things like this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSBIAGCulDw

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  • musanmanmusanman Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I think Ocarina of time probably is very relevant here.

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    The music of Mega Man is loved well enough to have inspired a concept album.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Similarly, the music from Earthbound eventually created a really good remix album.

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  • KireGoTIKireGoTI Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    CowShark wrote: »
    Significant examples of games wherein the music brought people together? (like video game names)

    Or examples of the community doing shit? (like http://ocremix.org/, or video game music cover bands?)

    Or anecdotal shit? (like how my friends in high school made a game out of humming Mega Man stage music, the "Guess The Stage Music" game?)

    Mostly community stuff, but anecdotal stuff is also good. Also, since the approach is ethnomusigraphical, opinions and personal anecdotes are also helpful.
    Connor wrote: »
    I'd say it's a great thesis. It is in fact very similar to the processes Jerry (Tycho) believes unites gamer culture.

    It's actually not the thesis of the paper as a whole, although I agree it makes a great topic on its own (in fact, when my advisor pointed it out in basically an "explore this" fashion, I completely balked; I've already read whole books on the subject). I actually quote Jerry's March 29 post and credit him for the concept, which I wouldn't have been able to express so cleanly without his words. It's one of my favorite things I've ever read on the site.
    admanb wrote: »
    I assume you have already written extensively about Video Games Live. :P

    Of course. That's the most obvious thing, by far. However, I'm trying to compare video game music culture to folk music culture, so I'm more interested in incidents where, for instance, you'd be at a con and someone would start singing a video game theme and everyone would join in (I've never made it out to PAX, but this is the sort of thing that happens there, in my dreams).
    musanman wrote: »
    I think Ocarina of time probably is very relevant here.

    Actually, it's Ocarina of Time that gets me on the topic to begin with. Koji Kondo loves his themes, and since gamers get to actually play the themes repeatedly on the ocarina, they're really strongly enforced in the mind. Not to mention that the songs in Zelda are some of the best out there. I feel like it's the best example of shared culture between gamers.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    How could anyone not mention "Still Alive"?

    This.

    Still Alive was ridiculous in how well it penetrated. We sang it in a pub basement for the Way of the Rodent Awards in early 2008, and few people needed lyric sheets. It was the first game song released for Rock Band, and for free.

    EDIT: Look at some concert video for a JoCo concert at PAX. The crowd lurches in time as zombies for Re: Your Brains.

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  • Seattle ThreadSeattle Thread Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    The prevalence of Nintendo music cover bands? Dudes like The Advantage and The Neskimos. Although, "prevalence" is a bit loose, since they're usually side- or pet-projects.

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  • November FifthNovember Fifth Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
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  • DusT_HounDDusT_HounD Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Hrm, how about a short paragraph or subsection, if you have the time, on 8-bit and chiptune musicians? As a subset of VGM, it's pretty fascinating to see (hear) people de-making game tunes, and in turn also making original compositions, using lo-fi instrumentation. When hearing remixes of well-known pieces, the themes may be instantly recognisable, but going from a full orchestral score to those chunky 8-bit sounds makes a huge difference in your listening experience.

    Also, how about chiptune remixes of pop songs, like the 8-bit Thriller? Using musical instrumentation from outdated videogaming hardware to recreate cultural artefacts like MJ's horror classic is almost like bridging the gap between gaming and mainstream, yet you need awareness of both to be able to appreciate a piece like this.

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  • PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    There are some games where the soundtrack always comes up when you discuss them.

    The foremost examples when it comes to SNES games would be Secret of Mana and the Donkey Kong Country games (especially part 2). Some other examples where the soundtrack continues to play an important role in their reception: Final Fantasy VI, Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, A Link to the Past, Castlevania IV, Terranigma (never released in the US, but has a following in Europe).

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  • FlayFlay Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    You might be interested in APB, which will allow players to create their own music to share (and sell?) in the game world:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPGBILvxAWU

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