[Roguelikes] Stone Soup, Spelunky, etc. Better than 'Gnome Castle' something.

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  • RizziRizzi Sydney, Australia.Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Can someone tell me where I can get a good tileset for Nethack?

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  • seabassseabass Doctor MassachusettsRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Rizzi wrote: »
    Can someone tell me where I can get a good tileset for Nethack?

    The SA tileset is ok, and falcon's eye isn't that bad either. To be honest with you, you should log into nethack.alt.org and play there while sitting in on the IRC channel. You'll be able to get advice, run into awesome bones files, and see other peoples epic deaths.

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  • FrosteeyFrosteey Elaise 1521-2945-8940Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    seabass wrote: »
    Rizzi wrote: »
    Can someone tell me where I can get a good tileset for Nethack?

    The SA tileset is ok, and falcon's eye isn't that bad either. To be honest with you, you should log into nethack.alt.org and play there while sitting in on the IRC channel. You'll be able to get advice, run into awesome bones files, and see other peoples epic deaths.

    This is basically what I always suggest with Crawl but it is always met with : (

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  • RizziRizzi Sydney, Australia.Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I downloaded IVAN.
    That.. is one mean game. I ate a zombie, and my limbs started to fall off. :( Then I died of a stomach parasite.

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  • elliotw2elliotw2 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Rizzi wrote: »
    I downloaded IVAN.
    That.. is one mean game. I ate a zombie, and my limbs started to fall off. :( Then I died of a stomach parasite.

    Why would you eat a diseased reanimated corpse? In any roguelike that's a bad idea

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  • RizziRizzi Sydney, Australia.Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I was curious. :P

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  • TeyarTeyar Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    There's curious. Then theres poking a spiky ball of death and being annoyed when it spikes you to death.

    Then theres eating a zombie in a rogue-like.

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I beat nethack once, then as I was traveling up with the amulet of yendor on my second winning game the following happened:

    I met a very classy succubus
    she seduced me, removing my armor
    this included my shield of reflection
    she stole my wand of death
    she zapped me with my wand of death
    would you like your possessions identified?

    It's not too much to consistently beat nethack, as long as you are patient and play safely. The guy that introduced me to it could beat the game every time with pretty much every class.

    The second roguelike I play sometimes is angband/zangband but the game has a few more frustrating things and I do not have the patience to wade through levels populated with hundreds of monsters/items until I am strong enough to beat the serpent of chaos/morgoth.

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    In Crawl are there any sneaky ways to find out if something is cursed? Like could I drop something suspicious in hopes that a monster will pick it up and use it?

    Or maybe throwing potions at bad guys and see what happens? I always miss.

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  • SavantSavant Simply Barbaric Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    harvest wrote: »
    In Crawl are there any sneaky ways to find out if something is cursed? Like could I drop something suspicious in hopes that a monster will pick it up and use it?

    Or maybe throwing potions at bad guys and see what happens? I always miss.

    Scrolls of detect curse are pretty common, so save up some stuff then blow one of those and it will detect on all of them. Remove curse is also pretty common, so often you can get away with just equipping blindly.

    Throwing potions won't do you much good. There's an evaporate spell in transmutations which can affect enemies with negative potion effects, but usually you are going to want to find which potions are good or bad before using it.

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  • redraptorredraptor Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Desktop dungeons, being a monk + having the assassain special glyph.

    So cruel when you can survive hits from enemies four levels above you so you just keep hit and running them to death for the massive experience bonus.

    Did I say cruel? I mean take that you flipping evil evil game.

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  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Whoo! Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup, I love it. Been trying for a while to get some good runs as a Kobold Assassin. I'm always unsure which god to take; I usually vacillate between Makhleb, Yredrelemenebmelenul, or Okawaru.

    What the hell is with Yrderenemenemelemeldul anyway? Guy needs a shorter name. Pronto. Stat.

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  • juice for jesusjuice for jesus Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    harvest wrote: »
    In Crawl are there any sneaky ways to find out if something is cursed? Like could I drop something suspicious in hopes that a monster will pick it up and use it?

    If a monster unequips something in your line of sight, it will be marked as uncursed. Probably be hard to make this happen consistently.

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  • Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    In Crawl you get so many scrolls of detect curse and remove curse that I don't find myself needing to worry about it. I just try out eveything I find and take the first weapon welding itself to my hand as my queue to start my first scroll testing spree.

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    In Crawl you get so many scrolls of detect curse and remove curse that I don't find myself needing to worry about it. I just try out eveything I find and take the first weapon welding itself to my hand as my queue to start my first scroll testing spree.
    Makes me giggle to think about finding something like 'Glowing dwarven short sword with goblin hand attached' as a drop from an enemy ;)

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  • TaminTamin Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    That was cool.
    [nethack]
    Accidentally turned off the confirm option and walked into a shopkeeper.

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  • juice for jesusjuice for jesus Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Bleh, I found an artefact mace of orc slaying after clearing the orc mines.

    What does the color of the Wp: field indicate?

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  • JouleJoule Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Just played a Troll in Stone Soup and wow it's like easy mode for the first while.

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  • FrosteeyFrosteey Elaise 1521-2945-8940Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Bleh, I found an artefact mace of orc slaying after clearing the orc mines.

    What does the color of the Wp: field indicate?

    Green is unidentified. After it's identified, gray is maces and clubs, axes are either gray or dark gray I think, polearms are red, I think blades are light blue. Artifacts can probably have whatever crazy colors they get. Cursed is probably that salmony color.

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  • mwoodymwoody Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I've been trying to figure out a good class/race for the new slowness god. Are there any species that are naturally slow? They'd need to be something that can wear all armor pieces, for the ponderous brands.

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  • TeyarTeyar Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Well, I know Naga's are slow, off the top of my head. They're stealthy, too, so it helps.

    And aparently Trolls are natural fits, due to the metabolism balance, and the regeneration going at the same speed regardless of how ponderous you are. Hm!

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  • JouleJoule Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Teyar wrote: »
    Well, I know Naga's are slow, off the top of my head. They're stealthy, too, so it helps.

    And aparently Trolls are natural fits, due to the metabolism balance, and the regeneration going at the same speed regardless of how ponderous you are. Hm!

    Well Trolls are poor fits for most armor so it might be awhile before you can lop on enough armor to get the better benefits.

    I've been playing with Ghouls for a bit and they're kind of fun.

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  • FrosteeyFrosteey Elaise 1521-2945-8940Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Naga would theoretically not be lacking any armor slots. But finding a naga barding without following Okawaru is probably not something to bank on.

    But they are awesome : D

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    So I've maanged to stay alive in Crawl for 24k turns on my Deep Elf Wizard. I decided to take on the Lair and it's much harder than the normal dungeon because it completely lacks choke points. Without having any AOE damage spells, packs of even wimpy monsters are getting scary. Should I just leave and go further down the main dungeon some more, hoping to find some more interesting spell books?

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  • FrosteeyFrosteey Elaise 1521-2945-8940Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    harvest wrote: »
    So I've maanged to stay alive in Crawl for 24k turns on my Deep Elf Wizard. I decided to take on the Lair and it's much harder than the normal dungeon because it completely lacks choke points. Without having any AOE damage spells, packs of even wimpy monsters are getting scary. Should I just leave and go further down the main dungeon some more, hoping to find some more interesting spell books?

    Pretty much any time you're having a hard time somewhere it's probably not a terrible idea to go somewhere else. If you were just ripping through the dungeon, by all means go back for a bit.

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  • juice for jesusjuice for jesus Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Learn Dig or find a wand of digging: custom choke points!

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Man, why do you guys have to keep talking about stone soup? Its making me want to play it again, but I would want to play it on my netbook, and lack of a numpad is blah. I realize mouse works, but again, blah.

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Raslin wrote: »
    Man, why do you guys have to keep talking about stone soup? Its making me want to play it again, but I would want to play it on my netbook, and lack of a numpad is blah. I realize mouse works, but again, blah.

    Learn to use the vi keys?

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  • JouleJoule Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Ghouls are kinda awesome. They're kind of like undead trolls but can wear armor. The whole rotting flesh and slow regen deal is no biggie. I might change my opinion when I get obliterated by some anti undead stuff but it's going fine right now.

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    harvest wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    Man, why do you guys have to keep talking about stone soup? Its making me want to play it again, but I would want to play it on my netbook, and lack of a numpad is blah. I realize mouse works, but again, blah.

    Learn to use the vi keys?

    I've tried it, never got the feeling right.

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  • juice for jesusjuice for jesus Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I liked ghouls and kobolds when I was starting out on Crawl, because they made food management so easy. Then I got hooked on demonspawn, because their mutations are awesome.

    Water enemies are soooo much easier to deal with in 0.6. Hated those bastards in previous versions. Now you can even eat fish and eel (and jellyfish if you can handle poison), yum!

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Ghaaaa an 8-headed hydra popped up from around a corner. I need to pick a magic user type that starts with some mobility spells :P

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  • juice for jesusjuice for jesus Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Kenku air elementalist! I've tried that combination several times with no luck.

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  • mwoodymwoody Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Spriggans are fast as hell, and that helps a lot early on. IIRC, I had a Spriggan Artificier do pretty well until he ran out of remove curse scrolls and got stuck with a crappy axe in his hand, removing his ability to access cards or the rod of striking. *sigh*

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Hehehehe I found a fun thing to do with clubs!

    If you bonk an unaware enemy with a club, they get dazed and confused :)

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    See the thing about being a necromancer is... My primary early spell hurts me. And I have to cast it a lot. So I mostly die from either running out of food, or running out of health potions.

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Does this exist on floor one in most of my games solely to taunt me?

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  • RizziRizzi Sydney, Australia.Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    "Your body glows in a crimson light. You transform into a parchment golem!"
    Don't eat mutants kids!

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  • FrosteeyFrosteey Elaise 1521-2945-8940Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    See the thing about being a necromancer is... My primary early spell hurts me. And I have to cast it a lot. So I mostly die from either running out of food, or running out of health potions.

    Well, Necromancy isn't entirely unlike any other offensive caster, in that you should generally be aiming to kill everything before you run out of resources and end up with things in melee range. At least, very early.

    Your second learned spell should probably be Vampiric Draining. For the most part, if that isn't getting you through as a primary form of healing, you're putting yourself in dangerous situations you should not be putting yourself into.

    After that, aim for Animate Dead. Animate Skeleton is still basically terrible in comparison, I think.

    Also, pick up and wield basically any magic weapon you find. A dagger of venom or electrocution can be useful early on for any mage, but especially for a necromancer.

    I've always basically been of the opinion that Necromancers generally trend towards having a melee proficiency with magic as summoning/regeneration/transmutation aid. But I'm not sure that Deep Elves should really be going that direction.

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  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Deep Elf Necromancer until I win this fucking game.

    Period.

    I swore to play nothing but Deep Elf Rogues, no magic, until I won.

    I got pretty damn close once, but I got too greedy and died fighting the royal jelly in melee.

    At least I killed it before its spawns finished me off.

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