Is this a decent computer for gaming?

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Hey guys...


What do you think of this computer and then throwing in a 5770..

wanting to play sc2 and d3 and 1920x1080.


let me know if its shitty and I should just build an i5 system for almost double the price..


http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=50152&vpn=Entre-Q620&manufacture=NCIXPC


Prices are in canadian dollars.

Raekreu

Well, the processor on that system is kind of meh. I think that the Athlon II processors are the low end of the spectrum of AMD's lineup, sort of like the Celeron was for Intel. If you could switch it for a phenom II then I think you'd be well set for gaming with an ATI 5770.

INeedNoSalt

running SC2 at 1920x1080 just fine with a 5770

i see that it offers a 500 watt power supply as an upgrade option though and people here suggested i get a 550 watt to go with the 5770

Scosglen

It isn't much of a "deal".

You could build a better system for the same $670, and a much much better system for around $800. I would definitely not build an intel system for gaming in this price range.

The 5770 will be fine for Blizzard games, but it will struggle a bit more with brand new very high spec games at 1920x1080 /w max settings.

tinwhiskers

Scosglen wrote: »

It isn't much of a "deal".

You could better system for the same $670, and a much much better system for around $800. I would definitely not build an intel system for gaming in this price range.

The 5770 will be fine for Blizzard games, but it will struggle a bit more with brand new very high spec games at 1920x1080 /w max settings.

2 in X-fire would work well(later on) but that mobo doesn't support it. Also DDR2-800 ram is horrible. DDR3 is worth the price(thats the whole point of the AM3, but the mobo doesn't support it), or at least getting ddr2-1066 or ddr2-1200(O.C'd).

these prices are from newegg(USD), for what you are buying:
95 OS (less if you are a student)
99 CPU
80 Mobo
85 Ram
50 HD
20 DVD Drive
80 Case+PS (probably less if the PS is a POS which it probably is)
=
509

depending on brand a 5770 will run you 150-180

That mobo is the biggest problem with the whole deal as a better one for an extra $50 would get you a extra PCIe slot(X-fire the 5770 later on) and AM3 support so you can use DDR3-1333 ram. Getting a CPU with a L3 cache (a phenom ii vs athlon ii) would be another 40(20 over that gets you to 3.2Ghz), which is going to give you a decent performance boost esp if you start over clocking.

Spending the extra 100-200 dollars is going to give you a much better machine.

travathian

So did you actually price an i5 system out from the build thread?

http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=105060

It certainly wouldn't be twice as much as that system.

taliosfalcon

I don't think it's that bad of a deal, with the phenom II upgrade anyway. The Canadian dollars on par with the US right now but components are horribly overpriced up here compared to the US. Also while I5's outperform the X4's in most things 955's generally perform on par with them in games and the 965's usually pull ahead in benchmarks. So for a pure gaming rig there's no point in going I5 over Phenom II

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Ok so I read your guys posts, is ddr2 really that much slower then ddr3? How much worse is this ddr2800 ram going to be?



Also I put together a Custom build (with an I5 Processor) from the same store. (Best prices around my area)

This is what I came up with


CPU Intel I5 750 2.66 GHZ 8MB Cache (CPU and Mobo Bundle for $330)
Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3 ATX LGA1156 P55 DDR3 2PCI-E 2PCI RAID GBLAN CrossFireX USB3.0 SATA3 Motherboard
Ram G Skill F3-10666GL8D 2 x 2GB Ripjaws DDR3-1333 CL7-7-7-21 1.35V Memory($126)
Video Card XFX Radeon 5830 Video Card ($240)
PSU Corsair TX750W ATX Power Supply ($90)
Hard Drive Western Digital 1 TB 7200 RPM 32 MB Hard Drive ($90)
DVD Drive Samsung SH-S223C 22x DVD Writer ($18)
Operating System Windows 7 64 Bit ($115)
Case Antec 300 Mini Tower Gaming Case ($58)
Assembly + Testing ($50)

Total Price $1117

Is this worth the additional 377 dollars? Will it perform a lot better then the previously mentioned computer? Do I really need the extra performance for SC2 and Diablo 3?

Avicus

If you want to build your own PC and you're looking for a decent priced processor the AMD 955 BE is the way to go. It ranks slightly below the i5 750 but is AU$60 cheaper and I've noticed that most AMD motherboards are cheaper than the new socket Intel ones.

a 5770 should be fine. Try to get it and not the 5750 since its nowhere near as good. I think it is the same/worse than the 4870 when I was looking at gfx cards.

edit: Looking at what you posted I would say change the following

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 3.2Ghz for US$159.99
and grab a motherboard for around $100 or more if you want CrossFire

I would say get the 5770 instead of the 5830. Yes it is slightly worse but the 5830 is overpriced. MAybe think about saving the extra and putting it towards a new graphics card in 2 years or something.

travathian

You can save $20-30 by not buying a 750W PSU that is total overkill. Spend $50-60 and get a nice 4-500W PSU.

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Ok well thanks for the help guys...


I ended up buying this computer...

1 x XFX Radeon HD 5830 800MHZ 1GB 4.0GHZ DDR5 2XDVI HDMI DP PCI-E DIRECTX11 Video Card $240
1 x PC Assembly and Testing with 1 Year Limited NCIX System Warranty (PRE-CONFIG WIN. OS If Purchased) $50
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM $107
1 x Western Digital WD1001FALS Caviar Black 1TB SATA2 7200RPM 4.2MS 32MB 3.5IN Dual Proc Hard Drive OEM $90
1 x Intel Core i5 750 Quad Core Processor Lynnfield LGA1156 2.66GHZ 8MB Cache Retail Box $330 (CPU MOBO BUNDLE)
1 x Gigabyte P55A-UD3 ATX LGA1156 P55 DDR3 2PCI-E 2PCI RAID GBLAN CrossFireX USB3.0 SATA3 Motherboard
1 x Samsung SH-S223C 22X DVD Writer SATA Black OEM
1 x Corsair XMS CMX4GX3M2A1600CB 4GB DDR3 8-8-8-24 1600CL ($125)
1 x Antec Three Hundred Mini Tower Gaming Case 300 ATX 3X5.25 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB & Audio ($54)
1 x Corsair TX750W 750W ATX 12V 60A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 140MM Fan ($110) (also has 20 dollar mail in rebate 90 dollars final price)
1 x Coolermaster Hyper 212 Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink ($30)


Yup... Total Price was $1155 Canadian before taxes..