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So the Escapist will temp-ban anyone who mentions adblocking now...
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Isn't this a strange turn of events...
Evidently, talking about ad blocking on the Escapist's forums results in a temp ban now. From a business standpoint to seems that they are taking the position of "ad block = stolen content". Strangely, they have also decided to be outrageous pricks about it.
Ars Technica did the same thing a while back. Strangely, as opposed to advising or working with the community, they too decided to be penises about it, pretty much calling anyone who uses ad-blockers thieves to their face.
Now, strangely, I use an ad-blocker myself, and penny arcade is one of the top three web sites I come to and the biggest community I'm a part of. Even though I barely, if ever see an ad on my page, I have purchased a "first party" shirt, a PAX DVD, three Penny Arcade books, the PA:Adventures game, and donated to "Child's Play". The only reason why I haven't gone to PAX is a matter of me being in the middle of the god-damned country and equidistant to both East and Prime.
I also can't mention the games that I have purchased by Tycho's comment alone.
Now, It can't be I simply bought these things due to my raging man-crush on Robert Khoo. (Call me!). I'm now wondering... what is PA doing "Right" that the Escapist isn't "getting"?
Evidently, talking about ad blocking on the Escapist's forums results in a temp ban now. From a business standpoint to seems that they are taking the position of "ad block = stolen content". Strangely, they have also decided to be outrageous pricks about it.
Ars Technica did the same thing a while back. Strangely, as opposed to advising or working with the community, they too decided to be penises about it, pretty much calling anyone who uses ad-blockers thieves to their face.
Now, strangely, I use an ad-blocker myself, and penny arcade is one of the top three web sites I come to and the biggest community I'm a part of. Even though I barely, if ever see an ad on my page, I have purchased a "first party" shirt, a PAX DVD, three Penny Arcade books, the PA:Adventures game, and donated to "Child's Play". The only reason why I haven't gone to PAX is a matter of me being in the middle of the god-damned country and equidistant to both East and Prime.
I also can't mention the games that I have purchased by Tycho's comment alone.
Now, It can't be I simply bought these things due to my raging man-crush on Robert Khoo. (Call me!). I'm now wondering... what is PA doing "Right" that the Escapist isn't "getting"?
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If everyone blocked the ads then where would the revenue come from? Would you pay for the same content? Micropayments have basically failed where they've been tried as everyone is accustomed to getting things for free.
Are you really surprised that a company doesn't like it when you openly talk about how you are decreasing their revenue and so encouraging other people to do the same?
As a gamer,
Then again the escapist has some shitty ass ads. And hulu is still brought to me by a 40 second ad that never loads.
For instance I don't block the ads on PA, because they are usually relevant to my interests
Everything is "stolen content" when the ads running aren't paid attention to.
I think it would be more correct to say that adblocking would be the equivalent of the show not stopping for ads.
I mean, going away when the ads come on is still having ads surround the content. Removing them completely is not the same as not paying attention to them
ads are measured by exposures and by clickthroughs
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
But what do I know, I use adblockplus.
If they load, they are "seen".
If they are seen, then even a subtle nudge has been given to that brand.
There are dozens of case studies done involving the subliminal effects of advertising. Some cases show that even when the subjects were told not to pay attention to the advertisements in a magazine, to deliberately glaze over them, they still show a preference for the advertised brands as opposed to non advertised brands.
That's funny mr. guy, I don't recall agreeing to view your stupid advertisements for shit I don't want
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
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Such agony that has brought me.
OH SHIT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I allow the ones on PA actually because they're likely to advertise stuff I actually give a shit about.
there is nothing of interest to me in those ads
I've always been mildly confused as to why all his ads seem to be for badly drawn porn comics...
i mean i can understand not wanting popups all over the place, but what the hell harm are a few ads on the pages doing to you?
it isn't like TV ads, where your content is interrupted in any way. It is just a picture that you don't have to pay attention to
what is so offensive about a picture (that you can ignore) that you feel the need to take away the revenue of the person whose site you are reading?
"why should i have to look at it if i don't care about it?" seems a little flawed, as you DON'T have to look at it
plus you are literally draining the finances of the people whose sites you are on by blocking ads! They have to pay for hosting, and you are taking away the means of covering that cost
what is your problem, man?!
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I think it's reasonable to make supporting their business in a trivial way a requirement to post in their forums. It's not like they're banning people from viewing the site.
Nope! TV and web pages monetize advertisements completely differently, there is no real comparison. With TV, if you've not got a Nielsen box, you don't matter. With web pages, every page load is counted, and ad impressions count whether or not the person at the computer looks at them (ad clicks count for more, of course).
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this is rational and I don't think anyone can say immoral.
I've done the same in the past, but either I am browsing less (hah!) or have trained myself to ignore them to the point where adblock isn't even worth the hassle.
I like to read Digg.com and that site is a night and day effect with ads.
Also I tend to think ad blocker keeps you safe too since most ads on websites aren't to good things.
I don't mind ads as long as they aren't pop-ups. They don't bother me and most of the time they aren't for products that I would buy anyways.
However, I live in a rural area with an extremely slow internet connection. Anything that helps me improve my bandwidth, even slightly, is great. Not having half a dozen flash animations loading improves my load times.
Additionally some places have really shitty ad-servers that wont load the rest of the page until the ads show up. I block thm so I can actually see the page quickly.
Satans..... hints.....
I got adblock when sites started using "popover" ads. Those banners that expand to cover most of the screen if you accidentally mouse over them and force you to locate the tiny little X in a random corner to actually see the page you were trying to view.
IMDB was one of the worst perpetrators, and a simple popup blocker doesn't help. I don't know how prevalent they are these days.
But I am sensitive to the needs of sites to advertise, so most of the webcomics I read stay on my whitelist until they piss me off with a popover or a banner that makes noises or similar.
Those things are the worst. My god.
I do think the Escapist is just trying to set an example for people. This should go away soon.
Or at the very least, at least they are temp banning and not IP banning.
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I used to run a straight out blocker, but now I just blacklist ad servers that serve me terrible terrible ads (such as popover or sound).
I block a few news sites to be spared the comment section.