2011 NFL Hall of Fame Nominees
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QB
Phil Simms
Jim Plunkett
Ken Anderson
Doug Williams
RB
Ottis Anderson
Roger Craig (2010 Finalist)
Larry Centers
Terrell Davis
Eddie George
Brian Mitchell
Gerald Riggs
Hershel Walker
Ricky Watters
Jerome Bettis (1st year eligible)
Marshall Faulk (1st year)
Curtis Martin (1st year)
WR
Tim Brown (2010 Finalist)
Cris Carter (2010 Finalist)
Gary Clark
Henry Ellard
Herman Moore
Stanley Morgan
Mike Quick
Andre Reed (2010 Finalist)
JT Smith
Jimmy Smith (1st year)
TE
Mark Bavaro
Todd Christensen
Ben Coates
Russ Francis
Brent Jones
Shannon Sharpe (2010 Finalist)
Frank Wycheck
OL
Bruce Armstrong
Tony Boselli
Lomas Brown
Jim Covert
Dermonitti Dawson (2010 Finalist)
Jay Hlegenberg
Chris Hinton
Kent Hull
Joe Jacoby
Mike Kenn
Jim Lachey
Steve Wisnewski
Willie Roaf (1st year)
DL
Bubba Baker
Dave Butz
Ray Childress
Richard Dent (2010 Finalist)
Chris Doleman
Charles Haley (2010 Finalist)
Too Tall Jones
Cortez Kennedy (2010 Finalist)
Joe Clecko
Dexter Manley
Charles Mann
Fred Smerlas
LB
Cornelius Bennett
Kevin Greene
Ken Harvey
Clay Matthews
karl Mecklenburg
Sam Mills
Darryl Talley
DB
Eric Allen
Steve Atwater
Bill Bates
Joey Browner
LeRoy Butler
Kenny Easley
Lester Hayes
Albert Lewis
Frank Minnifield
Donnie Shell
Aeneas Williams
Darren Woodson
Louis Wright
Deion Sanders (1st year)
Special Teams
Steve Tasker
Coach
Bud Carson - defensive coordinator for the Steelers in the 70s "Steel Curtain" era
Don Coryell (2010 Finalist) - head coach of Chargers during the 1980s "Air Coryell" era
Tom Flores - Raiders head coach 1979-87, including 2 Super Bowl wins. First minority NFL head coach.
Jimmy Johnson - Cowboys head coach 1989-93, including 2 Super Bowl wins. Dolphins head coach 1996-98
Chuck Knox - Rams head coach 1973-77 and 92-94, Bills head coach 1978-82, Seahawks head coach 1983-91
Buddy Parker - Lions head coach 1950-56, popularized the "2 minute drill". Steelers head coach 1957-65
Dan Reeves - Broncos head coach 1981-92, Giants head coach 1993-96, Falcons head coach 1997-2003. Named Coach of the Year 2 times.
Clark Shaughnessy - Rams head coach 1948-49, modernized the T-formation, developed the 3-WR pro set
Dick Vermeil (1st year)
Contributors
Bud Adams - charter owner of the Houston Oilers, now Tennessee Titans, helped stabilize the AFL, moved team to Tennessee
Bobby Beathard - GM of 7 Super Bowl teams for 4 franchises,
Leo Carlin - Eagles director of ticket-client relations
Jack Kent Cooke - Redskins owner 1961-97, including 3 Super Bowl wins
Otho Davis - head trainer Colts 1971-72, Eagles 1973-95. Named Trainer of the Year 5 times.
Eddie DeBartolo Jr - 49ers owner 1977-2000, including 5 Super Bowl wins
Ron Gibbs
Ole Haugsrud - Vikings minority owner 1960-76
Bucko Kilroy - Patriots GM in the 1980s
Art McNally - NFL referee 1959-67, Director of Officiating 1968-90, Asst Supervisor of Officials 1996-present
Art Modell - owner of Browns, now Ravens, 1961-2004
Bill Nunn
Joe Robbie - Dolphins owner 1966-90, including 2 Super Bowl wins
Art Rooney Jr - Steelers owner 2003-present, including 2 Super Bowl wins
Carroll Rosenbloom - Colts owner 1953-71, including 1 Super Bowl win. Rams owner 1972-79.
Ed Sabol - founded NFL Films with son Steve
Steve Sabol - founded NFL Films with father Ed
Paul Tagliabue - NFL Commissioner 1989-2006, oversaw league expansion from 28 to 32 teams
Ron Wolf - Packers GM 1991-2001, including 1 Super Bowl win
George Young - Giants GM 1979-95, including 2 Super Bowl wins. Named Executive of the Year 5 times.
i totally though prime time was already in, then i remembered the stupid ravens lured him back in what woulda been his 5th year the first time around
bah
Basically, they were acting like 5th graders. I get it because I haven't seen an ass look that damn good in jeans in a very long time.
Sports talk today has been pretty insufferable, because whenever this is brought up, hordes of callers report that "She was dressed too provocatively, should have expected it." Aka, the sickening "askin' for it" defense. Alternately, the only slightly less-sickening "This is why we shouldn't have women reporters in the locker room, because how else do you expect a man to act?".
Fucking man-children.
The reporter was on CNN. She said she didn't really care about the incident. Apparently the "story" is a result ofother reporters at the practice field getting all offended about the "harassment" on her behalf.
So in addition to all the other dumb shit we get from the sports media they've decided to start white knighting as well.
Wonderful.
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Basically, they were acting like 5th graders. I get it because I haven't seen an ass look that damn good in jeans in a very long time.
Sports talk today has been pretty insufferable, because whenever this is brought up, hordes of callers report that "She was dressed too provocatively, should have expected it." Aka, the sickening "askin' for it" defense. Alternately, the only slightly less-sickening "This is why we shouldn't have women reporters in the locker room, because how else do you expect a man to act?".
Fucking man-children.
The reporter was on CNN. She said she didn't really care about the incident. Apparently the "story" is a result ofother reporters at the practice field getting all offended about the "harassment" on her behalf.
So in addition to all the other dumb shit we get from the sports media they've decided to start white knighting as well.
Wonderful.
But only White Knighting their own kind. Which is the last group of people that need it.
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edited September 2010
CCarter is obvious, they were idiots not to last year. Marshall Faulk is obvious. I think Haley should be in. Maybe Cortez Kennedy, but I dunno. Willie Roaf was dominant.
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edited September 2010
Never Bud Adams. Never. Or maybe he can be inducted but his bust/plaque is nothing but a middle finger.
Basically, they were acting like 5th graders. I get it because I haven't seen an ass look that damn good in jeans in a very long time.
Sports talk today has been pretty insufferable, because whenever this is brought up, hordes of callers report that "She was dressed too provocatively, should have expected it." Aka, the sickening "askin' for it" defense. Alternately, the only slightly less-sickening "This is why we shouldn't have women reporters in the locker room, because how else do you expect a man to act?".
Fucking man-children.
The reporter was on CNN. She said she didn't really care about the incident. Apparently the "story" is a result ofother reporters at the practice field getting all offended about the "harassment" on her behalf.
So in addition to all the other dumb shit we get from the sports media they've decided to start white knighting as well.
Wonderful.
But only White Knighting their own kind. Which is the last group of people that need it.
My favorite of the knights is Christine Brennan, last seen lecturing Erin Andrews about having brought her stalker on herself.
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2011 NFL Hall of Fame Nominees
25 pass on to the next stage
QB
RB
Jerome Bettis (1st year eligible)
Marshall Faulk (1st year)
Curtis Martin (1st year)
WR
Tim Brown (2010 Finalist)
Cris Carter (2010 Finalist)
TE
Mark Bavaro
Shannon Sharpe (2010 Finalist)
OL
Bruce Armstrong
Dermonitti Dawson (2010 Finalist)
Willie Roaf (1st year)
DL
Fred Smerlas
LB
DB
Lester Hayes
Darren Woodson
Deion Sanders (1st year)
Special Teams
Coach
Jimmy Johnson - Cowboys head coach 1989-93, including 2 Super Bowl wins. Dolphins head coach 1996-98
Contributors
Bobby Beathard - GM of 7 Super Bowl teams for 4 franchises,
Paul Tagliabue - NFL Commissioner 1989-2006, oversaw league expansion from 28 to 32 teams
I think that's the guys who should move on.
Faulk, Carter and Sanders are locks. Willie Roaf and Fred Smerlas should be too, but they won't be.
And no kicker or punter should get in before Ray Guy.
Agreed, but I'd love to see The Field Mouse (Sam Mills) in along with Roaf. With Rickey Jackson already in, it'd put three of the best players in Saints history in the Hall.
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edited September 2010
aaah, now this is what gets my blood boiling
- on my accepted roddy white/peyton manning trade (that got vetoed)
"Yeah, I personally didn't veto the trade to *****. I did veto the trade to jake cus jake's team would then be stacked with a #1 RB and #3 QB. Sorry jake, roddy doesnt cut it in mine and others eyes."
The trade he refers to was Addai and Anquan for Peyton. Apparently Anquan and Addai "cut it", but Roddy White doesn't. So he doesn't veto the clearly worse, less fair trade, but vetos mine, because he thinks I get too good. that's not the point of vetoing guys
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No, the point is preventing one team from being good and another from becoming shit. In the trade he was proposed, he would gain an upgrade at QB and his trade partner would gain a massive upgrade at WR without suffering at QB (I think the guy's other QB is like Brady or Rodgers or something insane like that). Both teams would benefit.
To prevent collusion. It's not meant for "Wah, your team improves from this trade, I'm vetoing." Teams are supposed to improve from trades, just like they're supposed to improve from waiver wire pickups. Granted, it doesn't always happen, but that's the intent.
If a league feels a trade is collusive enough to warrant a veto, that's basically 1 step from kicking an owner out of the league altogether. A veto is either calling out 2 owners for conspiring with each other to improve 1 team, or accusing one of the trading owners of no longer competing in good faith. Short of welshing on league fees, those are pretty much the worst things you can do in a fantasy league.
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exactly. if anything, the other owners are using the veto as a means of colluding against our two teams. refusing to let him trade his excess qb, and refusing to allow me to improve my team. oh well, the commish just bumped the number of vetoers needed from 4 to 6, and judging from the amount of people who don't check the league until sundays i'm semi-confident the next attempt with go through.
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2011 NFL Hall of Fame Nominees
25 pass on to the next stage
QB
Phil Simms
Jim Plunkett
Ken Anderson
Doug Williams
RB
Ottis Anderson
Roger Craig (2010 Finalist)
Larry Centers
Terrell Davis
Eddie George
Brian Mitchell
Gerald Riggs
Hershel Walker
Ricky Watters
Jerome Bettis (1st year eligible)
Marshall Faulk (1st year)
Curtis Martin (1st year)
WR
Tim Brown (2010 Finalist)
Cris Carter (2010 Finalist)
Gary Clark
Henry Ellard
Herman Moore
Stanley Morgan
Mike Quick
Andre Reed (2010 Finalist)
JT Smith
Jimmy Smith (1st year)
TE
Mark Bavaro
Todd Christensen
Ben Coates
Russ Francis
Brent Jones
Shannon Sharpe (2010 Finalist)
Frank Wycheck
OL
Bruce Armstrong
Tony Boselli
Lomas Brown
Jim Covert
Dermonitti Dawson (2010 Finalist)
Jay Hlegenberg
Chris Hinton
Kent Hull
Joe Jacoby
Mike Kenn
Jim Lachey
Steve Wisnewski
Willie Roaf (1st year)
DL
Bubba Baker
Dave Butz
Ray Childress
Richard Dent (2010 Finalist)
Chris Doleman
Charles Haley (2010 Finalist)
Too Tall Jones
Cortez Kennedy (2010 Finalist)
Joe Clecko
Dexter Manley
Charles Mann
Fred Smerlas
LB
Cornelius Bennett
Kevin Greene
Ken Harvey
Clay Matthews
karl Mecklenburg
Sam Mills
Darryl Talley
DB
Eric Allen
Steve Atwater
Bill Bates
Joey Browner
LeRoy Butler
Kenny Easley
Lester Hayes
Albert Lewis
Frank Minnifield
Donnie Shell
Aeneas Williams
Darren Woodson
Louis Wright
Deion Sanders (1st year)
Special Teams
Steve Tasker
Coach
Bud Carson - defensive coordinator for the Steelers in the 70s "Steel Curtain" era
Don Coryell (2010 Finalist) - head coach of Chargers during the 1980s "Air Coryell" era
Tom Flores - Raiders head coach 1979-87, including 2 Super Bowl wins. First minority NFL head coach.
Jimmy Johnson - Cowboys head coach 1989-93, including 2 Super Bowl wins. Dolphins head coach 1996-98
Chuck Knox - Rams head coach 1973-77 and 92-94, Bills head coach 1978-82, Seahawks head coach 1983-91
Buddy Parker - Lions head coach 1950-56, popularized the "2 minute drill". Steelers head coach 1957-65
Dan Reeves - Broncos head coach 1981-92, Giants head coach 1993-96, Falcons head coach 1997-2003. Named Coach of the Year 2 times.
Clark Shaughnessy - Rams head coach 1948-49, modernized the T-formation, developed the 3-WR pro set
Dick Vermeil (1st year)
Contributors
Bud Adams - charter owner of the Houston Oilers, now Tennessee Titans, helped stabilize the AFL, moved team to Tennessee
Bobby Beathard - GM of 7 Super Bowl teams for 4 franchises,
Leo Carlin - Eagles director of ticket-client relations
Jack Kent Cooke - Redskins owner 1961-97, including 3 Super Bowl wins
Otho Davis - head trainer Colts 1971-72, Eagles 1973-95. Named Trainer of the Year 5 times.
Eddie DeBartolo Jr - 49ers owner 1977-2000, including 5 Super Bowl wins
Ron Gibbs
Ole Haugsrud - Vikings minority owner 1960-76
Bucko Kilroy - Patriots GM in the 1980s
Art McNally - NFL referee 1959-67, Director of Officiating 1968-90, Asst Supervisor of Officials 1996-present
Art Modell - owner of Browns, now Ravens, 1961-2004
Bill Nunn
Joe Robbie - Dolphins owner 1966-90, including 2 Super Bowl wins
Art Rooney Jr - Steelers owner 2003-present, including 2 Super Bowl wins
Carroll Rosenbloom - Colts owner 1953-71, including 1 Super Bowl win. Rams owner 1972-79.
Ed Sabol - founded NFL Films with son Steve
Steve Sabol - founded NFL Films with father Ed
Paul Tagliabue - NFL Commissioner 1989-2006, oversaw league expansion from 28 to 32 teams
Ron Wolf - Packers GM 1991-2001, including 1 Super Bowl win
George Young - Giants GM 1979-95, including 2 Super Bowl wins. Named Executive of the Year 5 times.
Ray Guy is not on the list, but Mike Quick is? That is fucked up on SO many levels.
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I don't know how, but the Ray Guy for HOF movement really needs some more publicity. He's the single greatest punter ever and last I checked punter was a position in the NFL. Sadly I think a punt to win the Super Bowl is what it's going to take to get him in. Elam and Vinatieri will be in before Guy.
I would only vote against a trade that is either 1) collusive, like bubba said, or 2) hilariously noncompetitive. Trading a 2nd round pick for a fourth isn't that.
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vjax may return. hmm. i tried to trade for him last night before the hearing but the other guy hasnt seen yet. toooo late.
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edited September 2010
Expendables, I'm willing to trade Reggie Wayne or Austin Collie for another W/R or Flex..
So can running backs grab the face masks of defenders?
Because I saw that on one play with the Broncos I think and no one seemed to call him on it so...what the hell?
Did he grab and drag the defender down?
For the most part a ball carrier can stiff arm a face mask of an oncoming tackler.
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Nah he was just holding on to it so the defender could not get any closer. Which seems a bit unfair to me because how the hell are you supposed to tackle someone when he's got your head stuck away from him?
So Owen Daniels was dropped in my league, and I'm starting Chris Cooley right now. Thoughts on adding him? He was a top TE last season before going down to injury, but there's also the presence of Arian Foster who I assume will take away some production from Andre and potentially Owen.
If not Cooley, I would probably drop Maroney? (Spiller, Ward, Matt Cassel for 2 QB slots, TB Mike Williams, Gaffney and Peyton Hillis make up the rest of my bench).
a runner can stiff arm a defender in the facemask but he's not allowed to grab it, obviously that's hard to tell but grabbing onto it isn't a huge advantage to the runner anyway since the idea is to get away from the guy not drag him along with you.
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Larry Centers
Terrell Davis
Eddie George
Brian Mitchell
Gerald Riggs
Hershel Walker
Ricky Watters
Jerome Bettis (1st year eligible)
Marshall Faulk (1st year)
Curtis Martin (1st year)
WR
Tim Brown (2010 Finalist)
Cris Carter (2010 Finalist)
Gary Clark
Henry Ellard
Herman Moore
Stanley Morgan
Mike Quick
Andre Reed (2010 Finalist)
JT Smith
Jimmy Smith (1st year)
TE
Mark Bavaro
Todd Christensen
Ben Coates
Russ Francis
Brent Jones
Shannon Sharpe (2010 Finalist)
Frank Wycheck
OL
Bruce Armstrong
Tony Boselli
Lomas Brown
Jim Covert
Dermonitti Dawson (2010 Finalist)
Jay Hlegenberg
Chris Hinton
Kent Hull
Joe Jacoby
Mike Kenn
Jim Lachey
Steve Wisnewski
Willie Roaf (1st year)
DL
Bubba Baker
Dave Butz
Ray Childress
Richard Dent (2010 Finalist)
Chris Doleman
Charles Haley (2010 Finalist)
Too Tall Jones
Cortez Kennedy (2010 Finalist)
Joe Clecko
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Charles Mann
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LB
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Ken Harvey
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karl Mecklenburg
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Bill Bates
Joey Browner
LeRoy Butler
Kenny Easley
Lester Hayes
Albert Lewis
Frank Minnifield
Donnie Shell
Aeneas Williams
Darren Woodson
Louis Wright
Deion Sanders (1st year)
Special Teams
Steve Tasker
Coach
Bud Carson - defensive coordinator for the Steelers in the 70s "Steel Curtain" era
Don Coryell (2010 Finalist) - head coach of Chargers during the 1980s "Air Coryell" era
Tom Flores - Raiders head coach 1979-87, including 2 Super Bowl wins. First minority NFL head coach.
Jimmy Johnson - Cowboys head coach 1989-93, including 2 Super Bowl wins. Dolphins head coach 1996-98
Chuck Knox - Rams head coach 1973-77 and 92-94, Bills head coach 1978-82, Seahawks head coach 1983-91
Buddy Parker - Lions head coach 1950-56, popularized the "2 minute drill". Steelers head coach 1957-65
Dan Reeves - Broncos head coach 1981-92, Giants head coach 1993-96, Falcons head coach 1997-2003. Named Coach of the Year 2 times.
Clark Shaughnessy - Rams head coach 1948-49, modernized the T-formation, developed the 3-WR pro set
Dick Vermeil (1st year)
Contributors
Bud Adams - charter owner of the Houston Oilers, now Tennessee Titans, helped stabilize the AFL, moved team to Tennessee
Bobby Beathard - GM of 7 Super Bowl teams for 4 franchises,
Leo Carlin - Eagles director of ticket-client relations
Jack Kent Cooke - Redskins owner 1961-97, including 3 Super Bowl wins
Otho Davis - head trainer Colts 1971-72, Eagles 1973-95. Named Trainer of the Year 5 times.
Eddie DeBartolo Jr - 49ers owner 1977-2000, including 5 Super Bowl wins
Ron Gibbs
Ole Haugsrud - Vikings minority owner 1960-76
Bucko Kilroy - Patriots GM in the 1980s
Art McNally - NFL referee 1959-67, Director of Officiating 1968-90, Asst Supervisor of Officials 1996-present
Art Modell - owner of Browns, now Ravens, 1961-2004
Bill Nunn
Joe Robbie - Dolphins owner 1966-90, including 2 Super Bowl wins
Art Rooney Jr - Steelers owner 2003-present, including 2 Super Bowl wins
Carroll Rosenbloom - Colts owner 1953-71, including 1 Super Bowl win. Rams owner 1972-79.
Ed Sabol - founded NFL Films with son Steve
Steve Sabol - founded NFL Films with father Ed
Paul Tagliabue - NFL Commissioner 1989-2006, oversaw league expansion from 28 to 32 teams
Ron Wolf - Packers GM 1991-2001, including 1 Super Bowl win
George Young - Giants GM 1979-95, including 2 Super Bowl wins. Named Executive of the Year 5 times.
bah
So in addition to all the other dumb shit we get from the sports media they've decided to start white knighting as well.
Wonderful.
But only White Knighting their own kind. Which is the last group of people that need it.
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My favorite of the knights is Christine Brennan, last seen lecturing Erin Andrews about having brought her stalker on herself.
I think that's the guys who should move on.
Faulk, Carter and Sanders are locks. Willie Roaf and Fred Smerlas should be too, but they won't be.
And no kicker or punter should get in before Ray Guy.
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- on my accepted roddy white/peyton manning trade (that got vetoed)
"Yeah, I personally didn't veto the trade to *****. I did veto the trade to jake cus jake's team would then be stacked with a #1 RB and #3 QB. Sorry jake, roddy doesnt cut it in mine and others eyes."
The trade he refers to was Addai and Anquan for Peyton. Apparently Anquan and Addai "cut it", but Roddy White doesn't. So he doesn't veto the clearly worse, less fair trade, but vetos mine, because he thinks I get too good. that's not the point of vetoing guys
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mainly to prevent a guy who doesn't care from trading aaron rodgers randy moss and antonio gates to his friend in 2nd place for sebastian janikowski
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So, basically, to keep one team from becoming too good?
No, the point is preventing one team from being good and another from becoming shit. In the trade he was proposed, he would gain an upgrade at QB and his trade partner would gain a massive upgrade at WR without suffering at QB (I think the guy's other QB is like Brady or Rodgers or something insane like that). Both teams would benefit.
To prevent collusion. It's not meant for "Wah, your team improves from this trade, I'm vetoing." Teams are supposed to improve from trades, just like they're supposed to improve from waiver wire pickups. Granted, it doesn't always happen, but that's the intent.
If a league feels a trade is collusive enough to warrant a veto, that's basically 1 step from kicking an owner out of the league altogether. A veto is either calling out 2 owners for conspiring with each other to improve 1 team, or accusing one of the trading owners of no longer competing in good faith. Short of welshing on league fees, those are pretty much the worst things you can do in a fantasy league.
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Ray Guy is not on the list, but Mike Quick is? That is fucked up on SO many levels.
I don't know how, but the Ray Guy for HOF movement really needs some more publicity. He's the single greatest punter ever and last I checked punter was a position in the NFL. Sadly I think a punt to win the Super Bowl is what it's going to take to get him in. Elam and Vinatieri will be in before Guy.
How do your league members view that as fair
in other news -
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/clinton-portis-ines-sainz-new-york-jets-nfl-truths-jason-whitlock-091610
the ooonly columnist who tells it like it is. i think we were separated at birth, because i find myself having the exact same opinions
edit - the column is (partly) about this overblown inez sainz controversy, and how harmless portis' comments were
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Arch,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_goGR39m2k
So, any offer including a RB that actually starts is welcome.
Who are you willing to give up for Brandon Jackson? Roddy? Greg Jennings?
Because I saw that on one play with the Broncos I think and no one seemed to call him on it so...what the hell?
Did he grab and drag the defender down?
For the most part a ball carrier can stiff arm a face mask of an oncoming tackler.
Who on my team would you like for Collie? I'm open to trading any reciever besides naanee and jennings, and also trading jonathan stewart
If not Cooley, I would probably drop Maroney? (Spiller, Ward, Matt Cassel for 2 QB slots, TB Mike Williams, Gaffney and Peyton Hillis make up the rest of my bench).
The only time it's legal to latch onto a facemask is if it's attached to Aaron Rodgers helmet.
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If you look at the second play in this video at the end of his run he's clearly grabbing and holding on to the defender's facemask.
That's what I was talking about.