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Sleeping [not so] Beauty

ShellyBeeShellyBee Registered User regular
edited April 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
So, I have been really tired lately, so tired I can fall asleep Friday night after work and sleep all through the night and more then half of the next day, so tired I fell asleep trying the eat dinner tonight, fall asleep talking to my bf on the phone nearly. Usually I have trouble sleeping as I have an active mind.

I have methods to make myself sleepy when I don’t feel it naturally, like no caffeine, warm baths, milk, and nice lavender smells, low lights and loads of exercise.

But this over sleeping and ridiculous tiredness is new to me.

I don't drink, nor do any drugs. Also I eat very infrequently due to lack of hunger, but I take vitamins to balance it. I walk lots and do gym classes, but I am overweight still.

I'm not asking for medical advice here so much as, has anyone else gone through these cycles of poor sleep at times, how do you overcome the over tired, over sleeping part?

I tried forcing myself to sleep during certain times but I can't regulate it, and the sleepier I get the less coordinated I become, dangerously so?!? Also a few nights back I felt weird when I was sleeping like there was something wrong with me like I just fitted or something, but I can't really remember? I will speak to the doctor about that one!

As Help and Advice, Help me wake up and become less of a danger to everyone, mostly me!

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited April 2010
    I would imagine that the most relevant thing in your post is that fact that you're not eating properly. Cut it out. Eating a couple of vitamins is not a substitute for food.

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  • truck-a-saurastruck-a-sauras Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    have you been hiking or anything wilderness related lately? is this weekend only or sleepy and tired all the time... reading that first thing to mind is lymes disease

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  • DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss. Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I would imagine that the most relevant thing in your post is that fact that you're not eating properly. Cut it out. Eating a couple of vitamins is not a substitute for food.

    Yeah, you need to eat. Just because you don't feel hungry doesn't mean your body doesn't need food. If you aren't taking in fuel, your body is going to attempt to use less energy, which means it will want more low-activity time, i.e., sleep.

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  • SeeksSeeks Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Yeah, you need to eat more. If you're concerned about the weight, just eat a bunch of small meals throughout the day.

    I'm a bit of a fatty myself, and the first thing that happens whenever I diet (if it involves cutting down on food significantly) is I basically become a zombie. Sleeping 12-18 hours isn't rare when that happens, and neither feeling faint, seeing "static" (or whatever you want to call it) all day, etc.. There might also be some anemia involved here, which can also be diet-related.

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  • ShellyBeeShellyBee Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    The eating or, lack there of, isn't intentional. I can't eat breakfast makes me nauseous to eat when I wake up, then I also lack appetite altogether, when I force myself to eat, I feel ill and am often sick.

    I do eat around 3pm'ish daily and then again around 8-9pm (if I am awake!)

    I am really working on this, as it is causing me issues, but I haven't eaten well or rather regularly in years. I used to vomit my breakfast as a kid so my mother gave me shakes and that worked well, that was around 9’ish and I’m a grown adult now.

    This sleep issue is only over the last month, the eating issue has been my whole life.

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  • ShellyBeeShellyBee Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I haven't been hiking and I'm tired all the time, even after a 14 hour sleep.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Over sleeping can leave you just as tired as under sleeping. You need to regulate your sleep schedule. Go to bed at the same time each night, whether you're tired or not. Don't lay there for 30 minutes then get back up because you can't fall asleep, either. And wake up at the same time each day, yes, even on weekends.

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  • DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss. Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    ShellyBee wrote: »
    The eating or, lack there of, isn't intentional. I can't eat breakfast makes me nauseous to eat when I wake up, then I also lack appetite altogether, when I force myself to eat, I feel ill and am often sick.

    This seems more symptomatic of illness than just irregular habits. Are you in a situation where a doctor visit is feasible?

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  • VanityPantsVanityPants Gokai Red! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I don't like to jump right to medical reasoning, but let me ask you something.

    You say you work out constantly and you don't eat often but you're still overweight? How long has this been going on?

    It might be worth going to the doctor and having him check for thyroid disease. It can hamper with your weight, make you tired and make you lose your appetite. It's worth looking into. Even if it's not that, I'd recommend talking with your doctor. The fact that you're getting sick when trying to eat regularly and feeling constantly tired are things that are worth talking about.

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  • ShellyBeeShellyBee Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I should have added, I'm in Australia so Lyme’s disease is uncommon unless you have travelled recently, which I haven't, also no rashes nor fevers. I have had blood tests and my Iron and Vitamin D are low, but over the last 2 weeks they are improving, with the new vitamins I’m taking and not significant to make me this tired, as I have had iron deficiencies from about 13-14 years old, runs in my family. I'm chubby, but not on a diet (I'm happy with my curves at the moment)

    Also an important bit of information, I over looked in my first post, is I have become a very heavy sleeper, sleeping through alarms, storms, loud music and my family takes a good 20-30 minutes to arouse me to a state I am vaguely functional. I am the most uncoordinated person when I first wake up, I'm like a drunk baby! And I am usually very grumpy when I wake up now :(

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  • Protein ShakesProtein Shakes __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2010
    I don't drink, nor do any drugs. Also I eat very infrequently due to lack of hunger, but I take vitamins to balance it. I walk lots and do gym classes, but I am overweight still.

    When you eat less, your body down-regulates your heart rate and energy expenditure in order to preserve itself. This is most likely why you feel tired all the time.

    However, I don't see how you can eat so little that you're tired, but can still be overweight. When you say you eat "infrequently", what do you mean? Do you go not eating for an entire day then eat a huge meal? If so, split that into smaller meals throughout the day.

    Also, the quality of your sleep will affect how much sleep your body needs. If you don't sleep well then you'll need more sleep to compensate.

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  • TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    My first instincts based on your conditions are vanitypants' conclusion of thyroid issues, or possibly diabetes. Maybe hypoglycemia?

    I'm not a doctor, but it sounds like it might be time for you to go see one.

    EDIT: Do you snore? Could be sleep apnea too.

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  • Mr_GrinchMr_Grinch Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Terrendos wrote: »
    My first instincts based on your conditions are vanitypants' conclusion of thyroid issues, or possibly diabetes. Maybe hypoglycemia?

    I'm not a doctor, but it sounds like it might be time for you to go see one.

    EDIT: Do you snore? Could be sleep apnea too.

    I've got Hypothyroidism (Under-Active Thyroid) and I had pretty much exactly the same symptoms. I'd be at work and have to go sit in a toilet cubicle, put an alarm on for ten minutes time and catch a quick sleep. I'd fall asleep straight after work, struggle to get up and manage to sleep through anything. I ate fairly healthy, I exercised a considerable amount yet I still put a bit of weight on.

    One painless trip to the doctor later and I was on thyroxine and now (subject to when it occasionally needs adjusting) I feel considerably better.

    I would honestly go see a doctor, your first post sounds almost exactly like me.

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  • Seaborn111Seaborn111 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    among all the other great answers, have your B12 level checked.

    i've got 10 bucks that says you're around the 300 mark.

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  • KetarKetar Come on upstairs we're having a partyRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Terrendos wrote: »
    EDIT: Do you snore? Could be sleep apnea too.


    Can your family tell if you are snoring and/or stopping breathing a lot while sleeping? Your descriptions are almost identical to how I felt before I was sent for a sleep study and diagnosed with sleep apnea.

    Several other distinct possibilities have been pointed out already as well though. The best thing to do would be to see a doctor.

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  • VanityPantsVanityPants Gokai Red! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Mr_Grinch wrote: »
    Terrendos wrote: »
    My first instincts based on your conditions are vanitypants' conclusion of thyroid issues, or possibly diabetes. Maybe hypoglycemia?

    I'm not a doctor, but it sounds like it might be time for you to go see one.

    EDIT: Do you snore? Could be sleep apnea too.

    I've got Hypothyroidism (Under-Active Thyroid) and I had pretty much exactly the same symptoms. I'd be at work and have to go sit in a toilet cubicle, put an alarm on for ten minutes time and catch a quick sleep. I'd fall asleep straight after work, struggle to get up and manage to sleep through anything. I ate fairly healthy, I exercised a considerable amount yet I still put a bit of weight on.

    One painless trip to the doctor later and I was on thyroxine and now (subject to when it occasionally needs adjusting) I feel considerably better.

    I would honestly go see a doctor, your first post sounds almost exactly like me.

    I have the same, hypothyroidism. I brought it up because it sounded exactly like me when the whole mess started. It's by no means proof that this is what it is, but it does make it worth looking into.

    Even if it's not a thyroid problem, it sounds like it may be time for a check-up.

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  • shugaraeshugarae Phoenix, AZRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    My .02 -
    1) Food - eat more. If you can't eat when you wake up, wait a couple hours and then eat. Track your intake somewhere like fitday or dailyplate

    2) Pregnancy - assuming you're a girl, you mentioned you have a bf - have you had unprotected sex with him lately?

    In any case, it might be worth a trip to the doctor.

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    have you ever had Mono?

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  • RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Speaking as someone who has gone through periods of eating very, very irregularly...

    Eat more. You'll get more energy and need less sleep. If I don't eat for a few days, I'm sleeping for 10-16 hours a day and getting nothing done, feeling tired even when awake. If I eat healthy, then I can get by on the usual 6 hours, and have ten times the energy.

    So set a timer and eat three real meals a day. Even if you don't feel hungry, eat! It will make a massive change in your life. Trust me. Eat food, gain energy. It's how the human body works.

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  • Mr_GrinchMr_Grinch Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Mr_Grinch wrote: »
    Terrendos wrote: »
    My first instincts based on your conditions are vanitypants' conclusion of thyroid issues, or possibly diabetes. Maybe hypoglycemia?

    I'm not a doctor, but it sounds like it might be time for you to go see one.

    EDIT: Do you snore? Could be sleep apnea too.

    I've got Hypothyroidism (Under-Active Thyroid) and I had pretty much exactly the same symptoms. I'd be at work and have to go sit in a toilet cubicle, put an alarm on for ten minutes time and catch a quick sleep. I'd fall asleep straight after work, struggle to get up and manage to sleep through anything. I ate fairly healthy, I exercised a considerable amount yet I still put a bit of weight on.

    One painless trip to the doctor later and I was on thyroxine and now (subject to when it occasionally needs adjusting) I feel considerably better.

    I would honestly go see a doctor, your first post sounds almost exactly like me.

    I have the same, hypothyroidism. I brought it up because it sounded exactly like me when the whole mess started. It's by no means proof that this is what it is, but it does make it worth looking into.

    Even if it's not a thyroid problem, it sounds like it may be time for a check-up.

    Yeah, it's a damn easy test. Dunno what it's like in your neck of the woods but over here they just jab you once and you get the results back in a week.

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  • cabsycabsy the fattest rainbow unicorn Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Eat more often, even if you have to split it into lots of small or tiny meals, you do need x calories per day (depending on your weight and activity level) or you're just going to feel like shit all the time.

    Even if you have to force yourself to wake up earlier, don't sleep for so long, oversleeping will make you feel just as tired if not more tired than undersleeping. I set an alarm for at most 9 hours after I go to bed, even on my nights off or when I'm not feeling well, or it just makes me feel even worse.

    Other issues you should talk to your doctor about: hypothyroidism, as mentioned; a fucked metabolism, because if you've been eating too few calories for years you've probably screwed it right into the ground; insulin resistance/PCOS/diabetes can also cause exhaustion and dizziness. Depression and stress can also cause sleeping problems.

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  • ihmmyihmmy Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I'm not much of a breakfast person either but I've found that a mini bagel (or say, half a mini bagel to start) is pretty easy to get down without causing any issues, and eating regularly does help jump start the metabolism.

    Seconding testing for pregnancy, thyroid issues, and mono.
    Also, stress for me at least can seriously mess up my sleeping schedule - if you're under any new stressors it might be worth looking into

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  • EliminationElimination Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Delzhand wrote: »
    I would imagine that the most relevant thing in your post is that fact that you're not eating properly. Cut it out. Eating a couple of vitamins is not a substitute for food.

    Yeah, you need to eat. Just because you don't feel hungry doesn't mean your body doesn't need food. If you aren't taking in fuel, your body is going to attempt to use less energy, which means it will want more low-activity time, i.e., sleep.

    Also not eating does not really make you lose that much weight. It will actually slow down your metabolism which will cause you to be more unhealthy and have more weight problems in the long haul.

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  • ShellyBeeShellyBee Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Thanks all, I am seeing a Dr have been for about 3 weeks, last blood test got results on Friday, not pregnant and never had and STD nor mono (my metabolism is screwed, it always has been but I have never had this over sleeping issue.) I try to manage my eating issues with fluids and healthy food when I can eat and exercise) my iron is low, D low and B12 are not fab either.

    I have registered to see a nutritionist this week (there really is nothing wrong with a fluid shake for breakfast, which I used to do, so maybe I can get back to that?) and I'm going to have an endoscope investigation to see why I gag when I eat at times (I had to nearly beg for this as I think the Dr feels I do it purposely!) and other times I vomit my food up (which is involuntary and I feel really bad about)

    I'm still not sure how to proceed with regulating my sleep, I live alone at the moment. Waking up late and sleeping through alarms is causing me stress, as I am worried I wont wake up for work and I'll get fired (so yeah you could say, I'm starting to stress over it) yesterday I tried to make myself super tired to wake up early but I got out of bed at 1pm regardless. I really can't function like this for much longer, as it's effecting every aspect of life and I feel sick all the time.

    Thanks everyone by the way, I have written up lists to take to the Dr for things to check and things to work on.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited April 2010
    If you have a problem gagging while you eat, use your right hand to shovel the food into your gaping maw. Then take your left hand, press your thumb into your palm and squeeze the rest of your fingers into your palm, as though you're making a tight fist the way every boxer tells you not to.

    This will supress your gag reflex. Y'all can thank me when you have a career in movies.

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  • PerpetualPerpetual Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    ShellyBee wrote: »
    I have registered to see a nutritionist this week (there really is nothing wrong with a fluid shake for breakfast, which I used to do, so maybe I can get back to that?) and I'm going to have an endoscope investigation to see why I gag when I eat at times (I had to nearly beg for this as I think the Dr feels I do it purposely!) and other times I vomit my food up (which is involuntary and I feel really bad about)

    Maybe some form of bulemia?

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  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    ShellyBee wrote: »
    Thanks all, I am seeing a Dr have been for about 3 weeks, last blood test got results on Friday, not pregnant and never had and STD nor mono (my metabolism is screwed, it always has been but I have never had this over sleeping issue.) I try to manage my eating issues with fluids and healthy food when I can eat and exercise) my iron is low, D low and B12 are not fab either.

    I have registered to see a nutritionist this week (there really is nothing wrong with a fluid shake for breakfast, which I used to do, so maybe I can get back to that?) and I'm going to have an endoscope investigation to see why I gag when I eat at times (I had to nearly beg for this as I think the Dr feels I do it purposely!) and other times I vomit my food up (which is involuntary and I feel really bad about)

    I'm still not sure how to proceed with regulating my sleep, I live alone at the moment. Waking up late and sleeping through alarms is causing me stress, as I am worried I wont wake up for work and I'll get fired (so yeah you could say, I'm starting to stress over it) yesterday I tried to make myself super tired to wake up early but I got out of bed at 1pm regardless. I really can't function like this for much longer, as it's effecting every aspect of life and I feel sick all the time.

    Thanks everyone by the way, I have written up lists to take to the Dr for things to check and things to work on.

    How long does it take you to eat? Do you feel chest discomfort while eating?

    Do you have any food allergies?


    How are your energy levels throughout the day? You say you feel tired, but is that constant, or does it change (more or less or something) as the day goes on? Does anything you do change how tired you feel?




    Oh, no medical advice. Okay, uh, I get to sleep by making sure my sleeping quarters are devoid of anything I normally do throughout the day, and also I don't eat past 6 or 7 o' clock.

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  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Get checked for leukemia.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited April 2010
    You're going to have to elaborate on that.

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  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Lack of appetite and constant exhaustion are two of the three primary symptoms of leukemia. It's definitely possible for these symptoms to occur before you notice any excessive bruising / slow-clotting scabs, the third.

    Although the eating problems have been going on for a long time, some chronic forms of the illness are slow acting and take years to express all the symptoms.

    I speak from family experience. About a year ago my younger brother became constantly exhausted, slept 12+ hours a day, and had trouble keeping food down, but he had a good platelet count so the doctor ruled out leukemia. At another doctor's recommendation he had a bone marrow biopsy done, which found leukemia.

    There are probably a hundred other valid explanations for your symptoms, OP, but better safe than sorry.

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  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    ohh ohh


    did you get a cbc done? Did anybody say anything about your hemoglobin/hematocrit

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  • ShellyBeeShellyBee Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    My Dr thinks I might be really ill, so I am going into hospital for more tests, yesterday things took an unsettling turn, I passed out cold. :0

    My family is traveling to my place today and I'm getting tested for leukemia and some other cancers tomorrow :(

    Now I can't sleep simply cause I'm scared.

    Thanks guys, and Tube you make me laugh (Thank You!) You can lock this one down!

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