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What would you find on a medieval weapons testing facility? [update:Finished project]

PongePonge Registered User regular
edited May 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
My current project on my 3D digital effects course involves animating a trebuchet, and I'd like to paint in some details to my background to give the effect that its being fired on a medieval weapons testing facility...

I'm having trouble thinking of details to add however.

So far I have:

Archery style target
Spare barrels of oil (the trebuchet is firing a burning pot of oil)
Previous explosion craters


Can anyone think of anything else that might be good to add? The piece has kind of an exagerated feel to it, so humerous suggestions are welcome :-)

Cheers,

EDIT

Well, after 6 weeks of intense work, I'm finished... :-D

Modelling, Texturing, Rigid Body and Fluid simulations in Houdini. Compositing in Nuke6.

http://www.vimeo.com/11727765

I only had time to add the dragon unfortunately, as awesome as the other suggestion were some things went wrong in the last week and I had to fix them before I could implement anything else. Thanks for the help guys.

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  • Mike DangerMike Danger "Diane..." a place both wonderful and strangeRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    A ramshackle wooden model of a dragon, with a large <-- DRAGONNE sign.

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  • DOOMocratDOOMocrat Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    A guy using a sextant, so he looks like he's calculating artillery ranges.

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  • PirateJonPirateJon Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    A nervous looking goat staked out in the middle of the range as a target.

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  • Grid SystemGrid System Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    PirateJon wrote: »
    A nervous looking [strike]goat[/strike] dirty peasant staked out in the middle of the range as a target.

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  • TavataarTavataar Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Other types of siege weapons?

    Battering Rams
    Catapults
    Ballistae

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  • PongePonge Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Haha loving these so far, I may well attempt the dragon!

    A lot of this depends on what I have time to model/texture when I'm done on my trebuchet. I shall post here when it's in a presentable state however!

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I'd probably have a wooden table with some papers and on it, like engineering plans, with other odds and ends. Maybe a workbench with some woodworking tools.

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  • John MatrixJohn Matrix Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    A jousting run?

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  • illiricaillirica Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Spare parts - extra lumber, some cranks lying around, rope, that sort of thing.

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  • VeritasVRVeritasVR Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I suspect metallurgy is a big part of weapons R&D since, at the time, a lot of things were made out of iron or steel. If it's indoors, then it might look like a blacksmith area.

    A forge and/or kiln is probably there. Maybe a blast furnace for the iron ore, depending on the period you want. I would imagine there was a way to track the performance of the steel so a crude phase diagram or time-temperature-transformation diagram would be on the wall somewhere as reference.

    Likely have a basic way to apply a force on whatever metal you need to shape; anvil or some such.

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  • FallingmanFallingman Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Some posters/diagrams of Da Vinci's machines on the wall.

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  • virgilsammsvirgilsamms Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Straw stuffed dummies on stakes, possibly on fire. Chickens.

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    A giant wooden rabbit, one that looks like it could hold Bedevere, Lancelot, and Galahad.

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    orcs

    waaauugghhh!

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  • nukanuka What are circles? Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    You should build it in a ramshackle looking place, something that isn't located near the castle. A farm would be perfect because the field would offer a huge testing area.

    Who's the guy designing the thing? Is he an experienced inventor for the king? Maybe his place is a little fancier then? Like it's still a piece of shit hut but hey now it's got some fancy banners on the walls. I mean if the guy tests things out all the time in this little place it's probably seen some better days. Maybe there's a crack in the wall from when he was testing out the explosive barrels?

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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2010
    Clay pots filled with fake scorpions and fake heads. You never know when you'll need to switch to bio warfare.

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  • PongePonge Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Awesome suggestions so far guys, I had some free time while stuff was rendering so I modelled the dragon ;-)

    The scene is actually set in a field, which I have matte-painted to add craters and things, I think I'll try adding some ramshackle old castle in the background.

    I'll keep you guys updated!

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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2010
    dlinfiniti wrote: »
    orks

    waaauugghhh!

    FTFY

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  • CowSharkCowShark Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Some Quintains

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  • EriosErios Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Depends on the era. Early to mid Renaissance had more of an artisanal and experimental feel to weapons design. In addition, there were huge quality ranges in mid to late Renaissance guns and swords. A nobleman would have a wonderfully working jewel encrusted musket and a normal dude would have like...a pike. Also, the rediscovery of science and math combined with more whimsical thought like alchemy added a general level of craziness. A disassembled arquebus seems the obvious stock piece to put in. A crazy Da Vinci diagram of a floating tank that shoots flaming arrows may do the trick. A crazy diagram of alchemy principles might be good.

    Medieval/dark ages stuff generally had a bigger focus on iron and wood. With lots of mud. Longbows and Crossbows were a big deal, so some sort of 4-knocked, rotating crossbow would fit the crazy quotient. Siege weaponry got more advanced in the Renaissance era, and I can't quite remember advances in Siege tech during the Medieval period. Generally, effective humor surrounding the era tends to involve pointing out the squalid conditions in general and failed attempts at luxury by a few.

    Also, Medieval Britain had some of its Roman influence left, so perhaps a prototype of a reconstructed ballista might work.

    The Alexandrian Romans/Greeks had some pretty crazy weapons design of a similar technology level. The advantage of the Medieval period and the ancient period is that in reality, there was little consensus on the progress of weapons' design. To give an example from ancient history, Archimedes attempted to build a massive heat-ray array out of mirrors, while an Alexandrian writer concocted a repeating bow gun and another thought up a pressurized air-based gun that fired small crossbow bolts. As far as style, an agrarian style definitely works. I love the ideas about the staked goats and the DRAGONNE sign.

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  • PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    dlinfiniti wrote: »
    orks

    waaa[strike]uu[/strike]gghhh!

    FTFY

    There you go.

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  • Peter PrinciplePeter Principle Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    A few iron-banded wooden barrels full of various melee weapons would be a nice trope to introduce.

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  • PongePonge Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Update with the link to the finished project! Thanks guys:

    http://www.vimeo.com/11727765

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  • PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Hot damn. I'll be honest, I was expecting something a lot worse. Is this a college course or something? That looked fantastic.

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  • PongePonge Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Yeah, I'm doing a Master of Arts in Digital Effects. Hopefully get a job in the film industry come September when I graduate.

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  • Mike DangerMike Danger "Diane..." a place both wonderful and strangeRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Holy cow, that was excellent. Best of luck with it!

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    very cool

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  • PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Ponge wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm doing a Master of Arts in Digital Effects. Hopefully get a job in the film industry come September when I graduate.

    That would explain it. Good luck getting a job, I think you'd be great.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    This was excellent. Give us more!

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  • claypoolfanclaypoolfan Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    That's awesome seeing that come to fruition after browsing this thread when it was new. How long did it take you to do that?

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  • FallingmanFallingman Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Hot damn. I'll be honest, I was expecting something a lot worse. Is this a college course or something? That looked fantastic.

    Ha ha.

    Yeah, so much more than I expected!

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