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Canker sore

suicidexcusesuicidexcuse Registered User regular
edited May 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
Does anyone know of any good remedies to canker sores or even the prevention of them? I've searched online but I want to know if it'll work before I try them. I've recently started flossing more regularly and I'm getting them even more now. I don't even want to go down on my wife anymore cause I get tons from that as well. It makes me miserable for days, I don't enjoy eating anything.


Any ideas would be great. Thanks.

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  • physi_marcphysi_marc Positron Tracker In a nutshellRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I feel your pain. I discussed this with my periodontist last week. I'm very prone to canker sores myself. She told me that they're still not quite sure what causes them and why some people get them frequently.

    From my experience though, my diet plays a very big part in it. I found that cutting down on very acidic stuff and eating more fresh fruit and vegetables (which are usually alkaline, with some notable exceptions) considerably decreased the frequency of sores. I also seem to get more sores when I'm stressed out or suffer from lack of sleep over several days/weeks.

    Over the years, I never found a remedy that is 100% guaranteed to work. However, I've come across Canker Cover lately and I tried it twice. It's a little patch that you apply on the sore. It forms a clear gel patch that protects from food and drink and relieves pain. I find that it works, but it's very awkward to eat with it in your mouth. It's also supposed to fully treat most sores, but I didn't have luck with that yet. It's expensive, but it may be worth trying at least once.

    In short, try eating more fruit and vegetables and give Canker Cover a try.

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  • mehmehmehmehmehmeh Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Have you changed brands of toothpaste recently? For some reason whenever I use Crest toothpaste I always get a bunch of canker sores, but Colgate toothpaste is fine. The brand of toothpaste doesn't seem to effect anyone else in my house.

    once you get canker sores, something that I have felt helps is gargling with mouthwash (the alcohol based ones, not the weak new types) It hurts when you are doing it, but it makes the sores numb and tolerable for a few hours after. Also I feel like it helps to speed up the healing process. (they still grow and shrink, but I think they don't stick around as long)

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  • TheKoolEagleTheKoolEagle Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    i used to get a lot of canker sores, well a few every month when i was younger, a good way to make the little fuckers not hurt as much is to lick your finger and cover it in salt, then hold the salt on the canker sore for about a minute, this is going to enflame it and make it hurt like hell for about 10 minutes but afterwards theres a good chance it will slowly start to go away.

    this doesn't always work though, i've had some canker sores i've done this to several times a day for like a week and they just wouldn't die.

    but its worth a shot to ease the feeling of them

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    physi_marc wrote: »
    Over the years, I never found a remedy that is 100% guaranteed to work. However, I've come across Canker Cover lately and I tried it twice. It's a little patch that you apply on the sore. It forms a clear gel patch that protects from food and drink and relieves pain. I find that it works, but it's very awkward to eat with it in your mouth. It's also supposed to fully treat most sores, but I didn't have luck with that yet. It's expensive, but it may be worth trying at least once.

    I've used these and have had excellent results. Just put one on the sore a bit before going to bed one or two nights. While the sore doesn't go away entirely mine haven't gotten nearly as bad when I use these.

    Only downside is they're horribly disgusting the next morning.

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  • LachrymiteLachrymite Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    My wife has a tendency to get canker sores whenever she's stressed, as does her father. Her father always told her that eating a lot of yogurt helps reduce flare ups of them, and it seems to work for both of them, but since they're usually stress related I have no idea if it works or if it's a placebo effect.

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  • DavoidDavoid Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I find taking a pinch of salt and packing it in the sore helps heal it more quickly

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I used to get canker sores all the goddamn time, my doctor thought it was related to my stress level, because when I was stressed I drank a ton more soda, ate badly, and had almost constant heartburn

    So I've quit drinking soda and eat a better range of foods (like Lach says, yogurt is awesome!) even when I'm stressed out and get maybe one a year now.

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  • WalterWalter Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I currently have one right now. Diet doesn't seem to play a role in mine. Go to a GNC and get deglycrrhizinated licorice tablets. Put this on the sore and let it dissolve. I've found this to be the best. I've tried the canker covers, orajel, even silver nitrate cauterization. They all work okay but if you accidentally rip the cover off your sore its going to get a lot worse. I think the licorice tablets work a lot like salt. It seems to close the sore without leaving a vulnerable scab that can peel away.

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  • corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I always get them when very stressed, or when the stress disappears. Or when I'm under the weather.

    I like to interpret it as my body's way of informing me it wants to be lazier somewhere warmer.

    They heal up on their own though. Just ignore them.

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  • Peter PrinciplePeter Principle Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    As I understand it, the root cause is viral, but I guess there's some controversy there. But the immediate cause is injury to your mouth tissue. You're going crazy chewing your gum and you bite your cheeck, or you're picking your teeth with your finger nail, your finger slips and you wound the inside of your mouth and then a sore develops.

    I've had these since I was a kid, and I've found there are two ways to deal with them. One is prevention, and that means eating healthy foods. Chocolate, sugar, soda and coffee seem to be the main trouble makers. If you avoid these foods and injure your mouth, you're a lot less likely to develop a lesion IME. If you develop one and immediately cease ingestion of these foods, it's been my experience that the severity of the sore is much less.

    If you do get one I've found that rinsing with mouth wash can reduce the size, depth and even the duration of the sore, but to really see effects you've got to use the mouth wash something like 10x a day until it disappears. Some rinsing helps and as previously mentioned has analgesic effects, too. Very nice benefit if you want to eat that slice of pepperoni pizza. The other thing that seems to really help is not injuring it further. If you bite your cheek once, do everything in your power to keep from biting it again! And when you brush your teeth, pull your lip away from your teeth so you don't gouge it with the bristles. If it's on your gums, just avoid that area of your mouth, or be really super careful if you do brush that area.

    You can also take lysine pills, and I think there's even peer reviewed scientific literature to back this up, but I only read about it 2nd hand, so grains of salt all around. Anyway, I've found that taking lysine pills helps to offset poor food choices AND helps to mitigate lesion severity when it develops.

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  • meekermeeker Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Alum always works for me. 2 days and that shit is gone. Bought in your grocery store spice aisle. Used mainly for home canning.

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  • HyperAquaBlastHyperAquaBlast Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Cankers sores for me is like the Game.

    If I say myself "Hey, I haven't had a canker sore for awhile."

    Boom! Canker sore in the morning. So thanks a lot.

    I second the use of Listerine. It numbs it for a good while and they usually don't last as long if you use it maybe tree times per day. Whatever you do don't dry it out!

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Finally, a topic on H/A I am the fucking pro on.
    Lachrymite wrote: »
    My wife has a tendency to get canker sores whenever she's stressed, as does her father. Her father always told her that eating a lot of yogurt helps reduce flare ups of them, and it seems to work for both of them, but since they're usually stress related I have no idea if it works or if it's a placebo effect.

    Yogurt does help. The reason is because it contains Acidophilus cultures which speed healing. It's not a placebo, it will reduce healing time for me by days. If you don't like yogurt, you can buy Acidophilus in pill form at your local pharmacy and it does the same thing.

    Use a toothpaste with no sodium lauryl sulfate. It's a foaming agent in most regular toothpastes that can cause canker sores in some people. I cut it out of my brushing regimen and get maybe one canker sore a year now, as opposed to having them pretty consistently throughout.

    Good luck. Canker sores are the worst.

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  • minirhyderminirhyder BerlinRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I've found that Lugol's iodine solution helps the healing process. If you dab your canker sores several times a day, it will disinfect it and promote healing.
    Also try rinsing your mouth with warm salt water. Salt accelerates healing.
    And remember that your mouth has a horrible amount of all sorts of bacteria, and the more you look after it (ie, brush your teeth, mouthwash, basically keep it as clean as possible) the less canker sores you'll get, and the shorter the healing process will be.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Davoid wrote: »
    I find taking a pinch of salt and packing it in the sore helps heal it more quickly

    It won't. It'll likely exacerbate the situation.

    Ask yourself if you'd pour salt in an open wound (it'll help kill bacteria, but will not help it heal faster). Canker sores are an ulcer, basically, so they do present themselves with stress and, just like other ulcers, no one really knows what ultimately causes them. I'm not too sure on acidophilus as a helper or cure to cankers (it does help prevent fungal growth and the like), so try it. But my best experience to date between the cauterization-like techniques (salt/ginger/soda) and everything else has been with the little canker sore gels/covers. Helps cushion all the stuff moving around in your mouth from poking a jabbing it.

    Fun fact, acidophilus grows naturally in the vagina.

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  • WassermeloneWassermelone Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    bowen wrote: »
    just like other ulcers, no one really knows what ultimately causes them.

    As of around 2005 (I think) its fairly well known that the bacterium Helicobacter pylori causes the vast majority of ulcers. The two doctors who discovered and researched it both received Nobel prizes in medicine.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    bowen wrote: »
    just like other ulcers, no one really knows what ultimately causes them.

    As of around 2005 (I think) its fairly well known that the bacterium Helicobacter pylori causes the vast majority of ulcers. The two doctors who discovered and researched it both received Nobel prizes in medicine.

    Didn't someone drink a whole vial of the bacteria to prove they didn't cause it, and ended up not getting an ulcer?

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  • WassermeloneWassermelone Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    just like other ulcers, no one really knows what ultimately causes them.

    As of around 2005 (I think) its fairly well known that the bacterium Helicobacter pylori causes the vast majority of ulcers. The two doctors who discovered and researched it both received Nobel prizes in medicine.

    Didn't someone drink a whole vial of the bacteria to prove they didn't cause it, and ended up not getting an ulcer?

    I looked this up and apparently it was the other way round. The main researcher drank a beaker of the bacteria, ended up with gastritis, and treated it successfully with antibiotics.

    Its all well documented:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_peptic_ulcer_disease_and_Helicobacter_pylori

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    just like other ulcers, no one really knows what ultimately causes them.

    As of around 2005 (I think) its fairly well known that the bacterium Helicobacter pylori causes the vast majority of ulcers. The two doctors who discovered and researched it both received Nobel prizes in medicine.

    Didn't someone drink a whole vial of the bacteria to prove they didn't cause it, and ended up not getting an ulcer?

    Um no.

    The gent who got the Nobel prize for his research drank it and did get an ulcer

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Excellent, well that's good news then. I'd still not pour salt in an open wound. The probiotic milk/yogurt is probably the best thing to use, and cover it with a canker pad.

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  • oldsakoldsak Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    a good way to make the little fuckers not hurt as much is to lick your finger and cover it in salt, then hold the salt on the canker sore for about a minute

    Don't do this.

    Instead you might try baking soda. Make a paste of baking soda and a little water. Apply it to your canker sore and let it dissolve on its own. This will actually promote healing of your sore.

    You could also try rinsing your mouth with a hydrogen peroxide solution. They sell flavored ones such as Peroxyl in any pharmacy, but they're more expensive than the ingredients warrant and you can try making your own instead.

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  • CrowlestonCrowleston Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I always find Hydrogen Peroxide on the canker sore eases some pain and makes them go away fairly quickly. Hold it in your mouth until the sore is numb, spit it out, let your mouth dry a bit. DON"T SWALLOW.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Yeah, the burning methods are good for easing the pain or numbing it. As for the healing, it's a mixed bag. Some canker sores go away fast, some go away slow, I've yet to see anything reliable in terms of "this helps it heal faster!" other than covering it up so you don't poke the shit out of it with food and your tongue.

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  • AvicusAvicus Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Salt works really well for infections in the mouth. I had an infected lip piercing and gargling some salt water and holding a cotton ball with salt water in it made it go away insanely fast.

    I also had a bad tooth infection. It was very bad as in rolling on the floor in pain waiting to go to the dentist bad. Swishing salt water around the tooth really helped. It stopped the pain albeit temporarily and helped me get through another 2 days of it.

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  • DVGDVG No. 1 Honor Student Nether Institute, Evil AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Cankers sores for me is like the Game.

    If I say myself "Hey, I haven't had a canker sore for awhile."

    Boom! Canker sore in the morning. So thanks a lot.

    I second the use of Listerine. It numbs it for a good while and they usually don't last as long if you use it maybe tree times per day. Whatever you do don't dry it out!

    Counter-argument: Don't go over the recommended usage of Listerine (twice per day, 12 hours apart). The bacteria in your mouth keeps the fungus in your mouth in check. Killing the bacteria too often can make some seriously gross stuff happen.

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  • ArrathArrath Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    DVG wrote: »
    Cankers sores for me is like the Game.

    If I say myself "Hey, I haven't had a canker sore for awhile."

    Boom! Canker sore in the morning. So thanks a lot.

    I second the use of Listerine. It numbs it for a good while and they usually don't last as long if you use it maybe tree times per day. Whatever you do don't dry it out!

    Counter-argument: Don't go over the recommended usage of Listerine (twice per day, 12 hours apart). The bacteria in your mouth keeps the fungus in your mouth in check. Killing the bacteria too often can make some seriously gross stuff happen.

    D: I think I'd endure the canker sore..

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  • Dr. TrevorkianDr. Trevorkian Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    My wife used to get canker sores frequently until we discovered that sodium lauryl sulfate (SLS), a common toothpaste ingredient, may contribute to their formation. Now she gets canker sores only rarely, when under a lot of stress.

    So obviously, my advice is to start using toothpaste without SLS. Unfortunately you'll find that's more expensive, but that's America for you.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    My wife used to get canker sores frequently until we discovered that sodium lauryl sulfate (SLS), a common toothpaste ingredient, may contribute to their formation. Now she gets canker sores only rarely, when under a lot of stress.

    So obviously, my advice is to start using toothpaste without SLS. Unfortunately you'll find that's more expensive, but that's America for you.

    Thank you for inadvertently supporting my prior post

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  • Peter PrinciplePeter Principle Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Last I looked, it was hard to find a toothpaste that didn't have SLS in it. Sensodyne is the one common brand that I found that didn't have it.

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  • TracerBulletTracerBullet Spaceman Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    One thing I found is, while it doesn't speed up the recovery for my canker sores(I've yet to fight anything that really does) Anbesol is my favorite canker-sore pain killer. Stuff numbs the area pretty much instantly and for a few hours after word.

    Get all fucked up on that Benzocaine

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Let me just say once again that you should definitely give Acidophilus a try. It's the difference between weeks and a couple days for me.

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  • Dr. TrevorkianDr. Trevorkian Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    My wife used to get canker sores frequently until we discovered that sodium lauryl sulfate (SLS), a common toothpaste ingredient, may contribute to their formation. Now she gets canker sores only rarely, when under a lot of stress.

    So obviously, my advice is to start using toothpaste without SLS. Unfortunately you'll find that's more expensive, but that's America for you.

    Thank you for inadvertently supporting my prior post
    Hah, yeah. I couldn't believe some of the bizarre things I was reading and started skimming; missed your previous suggestion of same. Fine work!

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