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GrimGrimoire: Vanillaware + Harry Potter + RTS = awesome

cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
edited May 2010 in Games and Technology
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(Superior art on the left)

This is one interesting game.

Hopefully you're at least familiar with Vanillaware; the developers who pretty much define gorgeous 2d graphics.

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(from Odin Sphere)


I believe GG predated Odin Sphere, but it was released here not long after, and I'm finally getting around to it.


It's certainly unique.

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Lillet Blan, the protagonist, a young student who recently began attending a magical university.

She only has five days to spend learning the art of sorcery from the school's crazy cast of teachers before everything goes to hell.

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Gammel Dore(:lol:), her head instructor.

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Chartreuse Grande and Opalneria Rain, two more instructors with issues.

Opalneria is a necromancer who insists the form of magic isn't demonic as tainted by rumors, but holy, since a necromancer can exert control over souls; a facet of a higher power.

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Advocat, an instructor of dark magics who's also a devil.
Lillet distrusts him, but Gammel Dore insists he is reliable.
(Sound familiar?)

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Bartido Ballentyne, a classmate who's kind of a jerk.


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Amoretta Virgine, another classmate. Not sure what's more suggestive; her name or her outfit.



Oh yeah, the gameplay.

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Lillet starts off with a core 'base' in each level. From there she can use different flavors of grimoires to summon new bases, with different creatures and abilities.


Glamour controls faeries, Necromancy controls ghosts, Sorcery controls magical beasts, and Alchemy utilizes Science!.


It starts out simple, but it gets crazy real fast, especially since it's all on a 2d plane.

It also controls pretty well for a PS2 game. The analogs control troop movement, d-pad switches between the available soldiers(as well as selecting multiples), and there's a map shortcut for quick access.


The game doesn't appear to be very long(Five days, which repeat until the mysteries are solved), but the story is good, and there's 25 optional missions which seem pretty difficult.

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  • SlayerVinSlayerVin Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    How's the localization compared to Odin Sphere? I just started Muramasa and its localization is pretty bare bones...

    Granted, I may have been spoiled by Odin Sphere which was probably the most incredible localization in the history of Japanese to American gaming.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    You had me until the RTS part

    Guess I'll have to look forward to Lego Harry Potter for my Hogwarts fantasies

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So far, the localization is excellent. Every voice fits the character, and the dialogue is very well lip synced. The character portraits are animated, and beautifully.

    You really have to see this game in motion. The story sequences are done in a kind of Sakura Wars style; full screen portraits.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOsW2kzORZw

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  • darkmayodarkmayo Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    whoa time warp... I bought this back in... shit when was it released?

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  • Satanic JesusSatanic Jesus Hi, I'm Liam! with broken glassesRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    darkmayo wrote:
    whoa time warp... I bought this back in... shit when was it released?

    2007, I think.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    You had me until the RTS part

    Guess I'll have to look forward to Lego Harry Potter for my Hogwarts fantasies

    Don't mind him, he doesn't believe RTS should be combined with anything, ever.

    God help you if a game has characters you have to command or combine powers with. Characters should just be people you talk to in cutscenes. Damn Razorgirls need to get back in the kitchu'n!

    I no longer have a Ps2, but it looks interesting. I'll play anything like Sacrifice or Battlezone, but that looks slightly more traditional, with the cursor and all.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Cantido wrote: »
    You had me until the RTS part

    Guess I'll have to look forward to Lego Harry Potter for my Hogwarts fantasies

    Don't mind him, he doesn't believe RTS should be combined with anything, ever.

    God help you if a game has characters you have to command or combine powers with. Characters should just be people you talk to in cutscenes. Damn Razorgirls need to get back in the kitchu'n!

    Your obsession with Brutal Legend is both sad and hilarious

    I am not sure which one more than the other

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Also, Baslscape did the music, if you're into FFT, Odin Sphere, etc. I can tell it's Sakimoto's work.

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  • PooshlmerPooshlmer Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Sounds good, I'll pick it up.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Also, Baslscape did the music, if you're into FFT, Odin Sphere, etc. I can tell it's Sakimoto's work.

    Did they fix the ass framerate issues with Odin?

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Cantido wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Also, Baslscape did the music, if you're into FFT, Odin Sphere, etc. I can tell it's Sakimoto's work.

    Did they fix the ass framerate issues with Odin?

    So far, GG doesn't have any.

    Neither did Muramasa. Odin Sphere just had a lot (more) going on.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Okay, yes; there is slowdown, but it's weird. It only affects the cause of the slowdown.

    I summoned two dragons at once, and they moved at a slow rate; not everything around them. Might be a bug.

    It's nothing nearly as bad as Odin Sphere's, and I didn't really mind that.

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Ah, Advocat.

    He was so, so awesome.

    Especially on... what was... Cycle 5, Day 4 I think it was.
    That dude has a very infectious laugh. Mind you, it was for a very good reason.

    The plot got a little :? on the final day and not all characters are as developed as they could have been (I'm looking at you, Hiram and Amoretta), but still Groundhog Day on Hogwarts was very interesting.

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  • facetiousfacetious a wit so dry it shits sandRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I remember thinking it sounded like HP, but holy fuck the character descriptions. That's hilarious.

    That said, I really wanted to try it (and Odin's Sphere) but never got the chance. Maybe I'll see if I spot it next time I'm at the game store.

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Now that I've read the OP a little more carefully, I would like to make one correction.
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Glamour controls faeries, Necromancy controls ghosts, Sorcery controls magical beasts, and Alchemy utilizes Science!.
    Glamour controls magical beings, really. Fairies, elves, unicorns. Very nature magic oriented.

    Sorcery, on the other hand, controls the forces of Hell! Imps, demons, that kind of thing. Heck, Sorcery's stationary defensive unit looks very much like a succubus, for crying out loud.

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  • MagitekMagitek Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Got really far in this one before a certain battle beat me down religiously..
    It's a very nice RTS and I'm always fond of vanillawares 2d presentation and storytelling.

    Must finish it one day :(

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    sinky wrote: »
    Looks good. I think I might order it. Apart from the frametrate problems, any other problems?
    Incredibly repetitive maps.

    Every map takes place inside the school, so they all look the same.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Now that I've read the OP a little more carefully, I would like to make one correction.
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Glamour controls faeries, Necromancy controls ghosts, Sorcery controls magical beasts, and Alchemy utilizes Science!.
    Glamour controls magical beings, really. Fairies, elves, unicorns. Very nature magic oriented.

    Sorcery, on the other hand, controls the forces of Hell! Imps, demons, that kind of thing. Heck, Sorcery's stationary defensive unit looks very much like a succubus, for crying out loud.

    One of the summoning portals also looks like Baphomet.



    Also: there's base building! Sort of. Each of the four magic types have three grimoires, each functioning as a 'base', which can be upgraded and used to create new beasties.



    I'm on the third day(third loop), and yeah, I have a feeling this won't be a particularly indepth story like Odin Sphere's, but it's a good one so far.



    Some of the standard maps get really tough, not to mention the optional ones.


    And in case I didn't mention before: the voice acting really is phenomenal. They did a great job on the VA, probably because George Kamitani was involved in the dubbing process.

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited May 2010
    I despised the clumsy controls for it, so never really got far. Mostly, it just makes me think about Princess Crown and how annoyed I am that it never got localized.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Just now finished it.


    Very, very good. The resolution was a little crazy, but all in all, this was probably the best Vanillaware game I've played.


    It got exceedingly difficult at times, but I managed. The localization was the best part. All the VA was great.


    The 'bonus' final level was a blast. It was basically free reign over a massive army and endless mana, with lots of enemies that had no chance against Lillet.

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Thanks for bumping the thread. Totally reminded me to get the game.

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