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Making the move

chainsaw willychainsaw willy Registered User regular
edited May 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
Hey everyone, I have never really posted on the forums much but have been a lurker for a long time. I feel like this is my best bet for some solid advice though. Anyway, about a month ago this girl from work had a mutual friend of ours give me her number. I had a crush on her for quite some time before this and was pretty shocked that it actually happened. A couple days later I sent her a message just saying hey and we ended up texting pretty much all day. I asked her if she wanted to go for drinks on the weekend and she said yes. The date went pretty good we talked for about 6 hours at the taphouse and then went somewhere else to play pool. Had a really good time and all that jazz. So we decided to go out the next weekend, I took her to a museum that she had mentioned being interested in and then we went for a late dinner and drinks. Once again all was good and we had a blast. Last weekend she wanted to meet my friends so we met up with them at a pub and ended up getting a little bit drunk. On the walk home I managed to work up the courage to put my arm around her waist and she didn't pull away or anything so that was good. This is pretty much the only move I have made thus far and my question is what is the best way to make a more serious move without scaring her off. Also I get super nervous with this stuff and second guess myself a lot. I am not sure how to make it not awkward as I have not dated in 3 years and the last girl I was with was kind of easy and turned out to be a not so good person. Anyway this girl is different, she's classy, smart and really easy to talk too. We share a lot of the same interests and whatnot, and I have a good feeling of the way things are going. Thing is the past 3 times we have hung out I have wanted to make a move but have chickened out. So H/A....Whats your advice?

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  • KotenkKotenk Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Hey everyone, I have never really posted on the forums much but have been a lurker for a long time. I feel like this is my best bet for some solid advice though. Anyway, about a month ago this girl from work had a mutual friend of ours give me her number. I had a crush on her for quite some time before this and was pretty shocked that it actually happened.

    A couple days later I sent her a message just saying hey and we ended up texting pretty much all day. I asked her if she wanted to go for drinks on the weekend and she said yes. The date went pretty good we talked for about 6 hours at the taphouse and then went somewhere else to play pool. Had a really good time and all that jazz.

    So we decided to go out the next weekend, I took her to a museum that she had mentioned being interested in and then we went for a late dinner and drinks. Once again all was good and we had a blast. Last weekend she wanted to meet my friends so we met up with them at a pub and ended up getting a little bit drunk. On the walk home I managed to work up the courage to put my arm around her waist and she didn't pull away or anything so that was good.

    This is pretty much the only move I have made thus far and my question is what is the best way to make a more serious move without scaring her off. Also I get super nervous with this stuff and second guess myself a lot. I am not sure how to make it not awkward as I have not dated in 3 years and the last girl I was with was kind of easy and turned out to be a not so good person.

    Anyway this girl is different, she's classy, smart and really easy to talk too. We share a lot of the same interests and whatnot, and I have a good feeling of the way things are going. Thing is the past 3 times we have hung out I have wanted to make a move but have chickened out. So H/A....Whats your advice?

    This makes it much easier to read. (Now reading and replying)


    So, other than the easy chick, do you have any experience with women? If all you've done is been with a "slut", it can drastically change how you foresee "making the move" and, if anything, not teach you it at all.

    That being said, it can happen pretty naturally and remember that if someone is mutually interested they'll do their part to make it happen, too. Unless they are super passive. Then you're screwed.

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Oh, for the love of God, kiss her!

    Fake edit: She's clearly into you, so just find an appropriate time (pretty much anytime, besides mid-conversation) and lean in, and kiss her.

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  • FallingmanFallingman Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Start doing a few things a little more intimate, watch a DVD, cook her dinner etc.

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  • saint2esaint2e Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Cheesy, but hilarious one I have used, and I mention it because you have put your arm around her waist and she hasn't recoiled in horror or surprise:

    "Did you know the distance from here (touch her nearest shoulder) to here (touch her nearest elbow) is the same as from here (come around behind her back and touch her far shoulder) to here (touch far elbow)?" When done let your arm drop smoothly around her.

    Difficult to describe in text. Usually ends up with girl looking at you, amused at the cheesy move. She smiles, you lean in, magic ensues.

    Standard disclaimer: Use with extreme caution, don't use without prior interactions, your mileage may vary.

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    kiss her!

    dis

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  • chainsaw willychainsaw willy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I definitely have experience with more than just the slutty girl, but I am never good at making the first move. I always second guess myself and when I finally do it its pretty awkward. Never been outright rejected though. I guess the real answer to this is just man the fuck up and go for it, but at the same time some ideas on how to make it smooth would be nice.

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  • WalterWalter Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Kiss her quick before you turn into "too good of a friend." You're already doing boyfriend/girlfriend stuff, she definitely wants you to kiss her. Invite her over to watch a movie and make it happen. If you go in with a plan and try to make it smooth you're going to end up blowing it. If you really need help, watch body language. Put an arm around her and see if she cuddles up to you. If she does, look at her, catch her eye and go in slowly for the kiss.

    edit: and even if she doesn't cuddle up to you go for it. As long as she doesn't pull away and seems slightly comfortable. You went to a bar, a museum, and she's met your friends. Any guy who has done all this and hasn't sealed the deal is getting really close to the friend zone.

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  • RaekreuRaekreu Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Walter wrote: »
    Kiss her quick before you turn into "too good of a friend." You're already doing boyfriend/girlfriend stuff, she definitely wants you to kiss her. Invite her over to watch a movie and make it happen. If you go in with a plan and try to make it smooth you're going to end up blowing it. If you really need help, watch body language. Put an arm around her and see if she cuddles up to you. If she does, look at her, catch her eye and go in slowly for the kiss.

    edit: and even if she doesn't cuddle up to you go for it. As long as she doesn't pull away and seems slightly comfortable. You went to a bar, a museum, and she's met your friends. Any guy who has done all this and hasn't sealed the deal is getting really close to the friend zone.

    ^As a guy who has been friend zoned before, this is essential info to take into account.

    This is a mangled version of the advice I was given in a similar situation, but it holds up pretty well: if love is a game, then it's your turn and you are stalling for time when there's only one move you can make.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I definitely have experience with more than just the slutty girl, but I am never good at making the first move. I always second guess myself and when I finally do it its pretty awkward. Never been outright rejected though. I guess the real answer to this is just man the fuck up and go for it, but at the same time some ideas on how to make it smooth would be nice.

    I guess the real answer to this is just man the fuck up and go for it.

    See you answered it yourself.

    In terms of making it smooth I would just make sure that it is awesome. I would recommend kissing her good.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Think of it this way.

    She already likes you.

    We know this. It is a thing. Her liking you is a tangible object.

    Now your job is don't fuck it up.

    To be honest once you get to this stage it is pretty hard to fuck it up. Unless you make a joke about banging your mother you don't need any moves. In fact the only damn move you need to make is closing that gap to her lips and making sure you aren't going to lay down something so wet her face will look like it is covered in a mornings dew.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    When I was younger I was given a piece of advice for if I ever found myself too shy to kiss a girl.
    "All you need to do is say to her "Would you like to kiss me?". If she says yes, go for it. If she says maybe, say "lets find out!" and kiss her. And if she says "no", you can retreat gracefully and say "well, I didn't say you COULD, just you looked like you had something on your mind".

    I never ended up experiencing much shyness, and to me it sounds a little bit weird and there's no way the girl wouldn't see right through your "graceful" retreat, but if you're having a hard time you can always give it a go. Its a way to give yourself a plan at least, which might help you feel more reassured than just doing it.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    You could also do what I find more comfortable, and initiate a playfight of some sort. Plenty of kissing opportunities in a playfight.
    Plus, its fun.

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  • naporeonnaporeon Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I would never recommend asking if it is okay to kiss someone, unless you're still in high school. Since you mention drinking at pubs, I assume you're post-college (or nearly so), and as such most women would probably be turned off by this.

    Also, while in my experience there is absolutely, categorically no such thing as the "friend zone", you really ought to make a move before she decides that you simply aren't interested and moves on.

    If it makes you feel better, you won't be making the first move: it's already been made. She made it when she had a friend give you her number, and again when she asked to be introduced to your friends. Even if you don't count either of those, you put your arm around her, so you should pretty much consider moves made and interest expressed at this point.

    As Alyce says, just kiss her already.

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  • 28682868 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I think Sebastian Said it best.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMLhrDYJ5QM

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  • SkyCaptainSkyCaptain IndianaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I prefer the version by Colbie Caillat. :mrgreen:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXS4Wtf_Ssg

    Also, my current girlfriend thought it was cute when I asked her if it was ok if I kissed her. We're both well out of high school and college.

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  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    There is no such thing as the perfect time


    Just balls up and do it

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  • rfaliasrfalias Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Yeah, just do it. I find the last part of the night as you are leaving has always been the safest bet most of the time. In case it goes poorly you are leaving so it's not a lot of embarrassment or to sit trapped in a car on a drive back from 3 states away.

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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    This isn't a movie where music plays and the perfect moment arrives.

    You like her, she seems into you. Invite her over, cook her dinner or cook dinner together, pour some wine, and for the love of all that is holy, KISS HER BEFORE THE CHANCE SLIPS AWAY!

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  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Oh, for the love of God, kiss her!

    The worst thing she can do is say "no", in which case you will have saved yourself an assload of wasted time.


    DO IT!

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  • CliffCliff Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Don't build it up too much in your head, this isn't a life or death situation. It's also not going to be the most magical moment of either of your lives. What it will be, as long as she's into it, is fun. You want to have fun don't you? Just do it.

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  • SpacemilkSpacemilk Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    2868 wrote: »
    I think Sebastian Said it best.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMLhrDYJ5QM
    Rawrrrr I went through this whole thread hoping I'd be the first to say it! :P

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  • 3drage3drage Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Yes go for the kiss, she let you put your arm around her so you are golden.

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  • chainsaw willychainsaw willy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Well, I guess I know what must be done. As soon as we hang out again I'm just gonna go for it and see how it goes. Thanks everyone!

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Let us know how it goes!

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  • Seattle ThreadSeattle Thread Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    You gotta risk it to get the biscuit


    Or something

    Just go for it

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  • GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Kiss her.

    Just don't trip when you move toward her and accidentally grab a boob.

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  • rockmonkeyrockmonkey Little RockRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Also don't laugh at he after your first kiss. God help me, but the first time I kissed my now wife was back in high school and I was wearing a baseball cap, and she was wearing a hat and I knew the moment was there but I was worried about the bills getting in the way, but it all worked out and afterward it did a half chuckle "heh" sort of thing in relief and she still gives me crap for it 10 years later.

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  • bikkibikkibobikkibikkibo Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I've always done the move where you kiss a girl in a middle of a sentence. They always seem to like being caught off guard like that.

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  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    rockmonkey wrote: »
    Also don't laugh at he after your first kiss.

    I know, laughing kinda kills the mood. Especially if you're kissing watching a Comedy Central stand up... then you catch a joke mid kiss... and you can't stop laughing....

    Total mood killer.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I know, laughing kinda kills the mood. Especially if you're kissing watching a Comedy Central stand up... then you catch a joke mid kiss... and you can't stop laughing....

    Total mood killer.

    Though once you're a lot more relaxed having something funny playing in the background can make for fun laugh breaks.

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    admanb wrote: »
    I know, laughing kinda kills the mood. Especially if you're kissing watching a Comedy Central stand up... then you catch a joke mid kiss... and you can't stop laughing....

    Total mood killer.

    Though once you're a lot more relaxed having something funny playing in the background can make for fun laugh breaks.

    Psht, laughing during makeouts/sexy times is the best thing.

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  • Seattle ThreadSeattle Thread Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    admanb wrote: »
    I know, laughing kinda kills the mood. Especially if you're kissing watching a Comedy Central stand up... then you catch a joke mid kiss... and you can't stop laughing....

    Total mood killer.

    Though once you're a lot more relaxed having something funny playing in the background can make for fun laugh breaks.

    Psht, laughing during makeouts/sexy times is the best thing.
    Try having Dead Alive playing in the background. That was... interesting.

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  • mysticjuicermysticjuicer [he/him] I'm a muscle wizard and I cast P U N C HRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    admanb wrote: »
    I know, laughing kinda kills the mood. Especially if you're kissing watching a Comedy Central stand up... then you catch a joke mid kiss... and you can't stop laughing....

    Total mood killer.

    Though once you're a lot more relaxed having something funny playing in the background can make for fun laugh breaks.

    Psht, laughing during makeouts/sexy times is the best thing.

    C-c-c-combo!

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