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Well it appears the Fitness thread is no more so this question gets its own thread.
My gym has a decent set up with some heavy bags that hang down and some of the bags that stand free and you weight down with sand in the bottom. No speedbag though. Ive taken a few weeks of Krav maga/kick boxing (the instuctor encouraged us to stay for the kick boxing sessions after the Krav for the workout as the Krav was alot of technique demoing). Anyways, I learned how to kick and punch without injuring myself I have the appropriate gear and have been mixing up my cardio with 15-20 mins of a boxing/kick then 20-30 minutes on whatever the hell boring machine.
I was hoping some one here might point me to or reccomend a boxing or kick boxing routine. I tend to work harder when i have an end insight other than the clock running out. Ive just been keeping it pretty simple with Jabs and 1-3 punch combinations I vaugley remember from the class. When my arms get so tired I cant hold them up ill move over to some kicks.
One thing I've seen is that people neglect the jab, especially the double, and almost no one does the footwork. Don't just stand there, move around the bag and practice your slips and counters.
I terms of a workout, I'd suggest working with a combo of kicks and punches... Kicking is fantastic ab work and flexibility - not to mention a crazy cardio experience.
Maybe get some examples off youtube of good technique and go from there?
Start with a 3 point combo (jab-cross-hook) and keep adding additional punches to it every couple of minutes. If that doesn't work, try adding Cuban boxing drills, which are just light punches aimed higher than your head done as fast as you can.
Kicks are also a good way to hit a burn out state if you incorporate them into a build up rotation. If you take the combo above to 6 moves (jab-cross-hook-cross-hook-hook) and then throw in a lead kick and rear kick you will wind up getting worn out pretty fast. When you get exhausted, take a short breather and change up your combination and do it again.
The best thing you could get for a boxing workout is a timer. Go hard for 4 minutes, sprint at the 10 second mark, rest for 30 seconds, repeat. That interval type training will get you in shape fast.
The stand alone timers are best, but I had a custom MP3 file for that and used headphones. It was ok.
The best thing you could get for a boxing workout is a timer. Go hard for 4 minutes, sprint at the 10 second mark, rest for 30 seconds, repeat. That interval type training will get you in shape fast.
The stand alone timers are best, but I had a custom MP3 file for that and used headphones. It was ok.
HIIT is a great way to drop weight quickly, and any type of boxing or kickboxing routine is practically ideal for it.
@Kendeathwalker: Cuban boxing drills are like murder for your shoulders and arms. They will wipe your ass out if you do them as a cap to any kind of regular cardio work on a heavy bag. 1 minute is about the max that you should be doing them, if you find yourself coursing along without any problems then you aren't punching fast enough.
so much pain. I actually did about a full minute maybe two the first round, then spent the rest of the workout riding a pukey feeling after each drill. Mixed in some weighted jumproping..
I swim run and bike.. none of that gets close to that even when i push hard..
It's a drill where the point is to punch as fast as you can.
Set up against a heavy bag (much easier if someone holds the bag), set a timer to go off on minute intervals, and aim for about head level, if not a bit higher. Once it's go time punch as bloody fast as you can. The point is speed. Pure speed. Don't worry about putting a dent in the bag with each punch, heck you should barely be making contact. Once the mitt hits the bag bring it back to your face as quickly as you can.
Of course this is all done with proper form and what not. It sounds easy but it is killer.
I had a boxing coach who would run a 2 minute interval, 30 seconds cuban, 30 seconds power punches, 30 seconds cuban, 30 seconds power and then switch up with your partner who is holding the bag
so much pain. I actually did about a full minute maybe two the first round, then spent the rest of the workout riding a pukey feeling after each drill. Mixed in some weighted jumproping..
I swim run and bike.. none of that gets close to that even when i push hard..
I've always thought that it's so hard because your arms get such a shock from having so much demand put on them. Time it such that you only spend a minute doing the drill and make sure to keep drinking a steady supply of water during your rest periods. Other than that, the pain is probably a sign that you're doing them correctly.
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One thing I've seen is that people neglect the jab, especially the double, and almost no one does the footwork. Don't just stand there, move around the bag and practice your slips and counters.
Maybe get some examples off youtube of good technique and go from there?
Start with a 3 point combo (jab-cross-hook) and keep adding additional punches to it every couple of minutes. If that doesn't work, try adding Cuban boxing drills, which are just light punches aimed higher than your head done as fast as you can.
Kicks are also a good way to hit a burn out state if you incorporate them into a build up rotation. If you take the combo above to 6 moves (jab-cross-hook-cross-hook-hook) and then throw in a lead kick and rear kick you will wind up getting worn out pretty fast. When you get exhausted, take a short breather and change up your combination and do it again.
thanks for that link pirate. Really wish I had acess to a speedbag so I could try that workout in its entirety.
The cuban boxing drill sounds painful- going to have to try that.
The stand alone timers are best, but I had a custom MP3 file for that and used headphones. It was ok.
HIIT is a great way to drop weight quickly, and any type of boxing or kickboxing routine is practically ideal for it.
@Kendeathwalker: Cuban boxing drills are like murder for your shoulders and arms. They will wipe your ass out if you do them as a cap to any kind of regular cardio work on a heavy bag. 1 minute is about the max that you should be doing them, if you find yourself coursing along without any problems then you aren't punching fast enough.
so much pain. I actually did about a full minute maybe two the first round, then spent the rest of the workout riding a pukey feeling after each drill. Mixed in some weighted jumproping..
I swim run and bike.. none of that gets close to that even when i push hard..
Must know the secret weapons.
Ooh, it was right there. Sorry bout that. Sounds just simple enough to kill you.
Set up against a heavy bag (much easier if someone holds the bag), set a timer to go off on minute intervals, and aim for about head level, if not a bit higher. Once it's go time punch as bloody fast as you can. The point is speed. Pure speed. Don't worry about putting a dent in the bag with each punch, heck you should barely be making contact. Once the mitt hits the bag bring it back to your face as quickly as you can.
Of course this is all done with proper form and what not. It sounds easy but it is killer.
I had a boxing coach who would run a 2 minute interval, 30 seconds cuban, 30 seconds power punches, 30 seconds cuban, 30 seconds power and then switch up with your partner who is holding the bag
He was an silly goose
I've always thought that it's so hard because your arms get such a shock from having so much demand put on them. Time it such that you only spend a minute doing the drill and make sure to keep drinking a steady supply of water during your rest periods. Other than that, the pain is probably a sign that you're doing them correctly.