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Hey H&A, I believe you guys are a bit knowledgeable on web hosting. I'm looking to find a host for my club sport team at college. I'd estimate at like 100 view a month, maybe. (silly old webmaster installed an analytics tracker that expired, whoops.) Right now, it's hosted at DreamHost, but I feel as if it's almost overkill. Any cheaper places I could try moving the site to?
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At 100 hits a month would it be feasable just to host it yourself?
If you consider this route some things you'll need:
- A dedicated server of some sort. Any desktop PC that can run the version of windows your website is on now (no dedicated monitor required, you can just hook up your own to the PC to set it up and you can remote access in edits and the like)
- An internet provider that allows this sort of thing. (check with yours)
- A router/switch
- Any software your website requires
- Knowledge of this sort of thing or pay a nerdy friend to set it up for you (said friend might also have an old PC laying around you could consider buying)
At 100 hits a month would it be feasable just to host it yourself?
If you consider this route some things you'll need:
- A dedicated server of some sort. Any desktop PC that can run the version of windows your website is on now(no dedicated monitor required, you can just hook up your own to the PC to set it up and you can remote access in edits and the like)
- An internet provider that allows this sort of thing. (check with yours)
- A router/switch
- Any software your website requires
- Knowledge of this sort of thing or pay a nerdy friend to set it up for you (said friend might also have an old PC laying around you could consider buying)
This is illegal with some ISPs. And also absolutely ridiculous. Self-hosting is free if your time is worthless.
I did say to check with his ISP, I'm not advocating he sneak around after all.
Also, please elaborate. It's amazing you can shoot down others opinions with a quick comment but really you should explain why you think it's ridiculous and a waste of time.
I use holeinthewallhosting.com. Their lowest advertised package is now $19/year, but I think when I get home I can provide a referral link for the old $10/year package that I use.
Depending on what services you need (scripting wise especially), I've been very happy with Hurricaine Electric's hosting: http://he.net/web_hosting.html. $12/year for HTML only pages and e-mail.
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I did say to check with his ISP, I'm not advocating he sneak around after all.
Also, please elaborate. It's amazing you can shoot down others opinions with a quick comment but really you should explain why you think it's ridiculous and a waste of time.
Well, for one, you'd have to have the knowledge to pull it off, as well as the time, and patience, especially if you've never set up a web server.
Then you'd need a PC that could be used as a webserver. Unless you have one just laying around, that's at least $100 for anything considered usable.
Then you'd need a static IP, which in most places requires a minimum of business class internet and an additional monthly fee. For instance, the cheapest this can be done where I live is $100 a month plus $10 for the IP. If the OP is on a campus network it's not happening, period.
But, for a 12 month internet site, you're looking at $100, plus an additional jump in internet costs anywhere between (on average) $60 to $100 a month (if he was getting it free)
Or you can go with a hosting solution which can be had for as little as $5 a month.
So yeah, self hosting for something that small is a waste of time and money.
edit to actually contribute:
I use ipower for some smaller stuff. It's $100 for an entire year, which gives you enough bandwidth to not only run the site, but also gives you about 500 gigs (or so they say...) of online storage you can use for just about anything else (that's legal, that is)
You also get a domain name registered, bundles of email accounts, support for everything (sql, php, etc), automatic installation tools for Wordpress, Forum software, and Image Galleries, and up to 15 subdomains should you want to host more sites on that space and just buy more domain names.
I can't refute any of that though, I wasn't aware it costed that much. Where does the extra $60-$100 come from though? Extra upload usage?
I'm earnestly curious here.
Generally "Business Class" internet comes with SLAs (service level agreement) revolving around things like downtime, packet loss, latency etc. If the ISP has problems beyond a certain agreed to level, you get service credits in return. Plus, as mentioned, most places charge extra for static IP(s). Add into that security issues, and I would never recommend someone who really didn't know exactly what they doing to host their own site. It's not worth it when you can get hosting for $12/y with no frills and maybe a little bit more if you need some extra things.
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I can't refute any of that though, I wasn't aware it costed that much. Where does the extra $60-$100 come from though? Extra upload usage?
I'm earnestly curious here.
I typed that poorly, the extra money was based on an average high speed internet cost of $40 a month, so that would be the $60 more, all the way to $100 more if the OP is a student using campus internet, in a dorm perhaps, which is generally free.
I use doteasy.com for my website. For $18/year, they give me 20 GB of space on their server and reserve my hostname. And they allow you to pay in advance so you don't have to continue to renew it every year.
On the subject of death and daemons disappearing: arrows sure are effective in Lyra's universe. Seems like if you get shot once, you're dead - no lingering deaths with your daemon huddling pitifully in your arms, just *thunk* *argh* *whoosh*. A battlefield full of the dying would just be so much more depressing when you add in wailing gerbils and dogs.
I think that gives 500 MB of space and 25 GB of bandwidth/month for $10/year. Without the referral it would be $19.
Echoing my support for these guys. For $10 a year, you can't beat 'em. Their Ruby on Rails support is godawful, but other than that they're just as good (if not better) than any other more expensive hosting I've ever used. Speedy, full-featured Cpanel, and amazing support (you'll usually get a response back from a real human within an hour of sending in a ticket).
You also might want to look into your college's IT or CS departments. They'll often give you free hosting for student clubs, etc.
I use holeinthewallhosting.com. Their lowest advertised package is now $19/year, but I think when I get home I can provide a referral link for the old $10/year package that I use.
I paid for 1 year, yet I was charged without any email notification whatsoever prior to an autorenew, and without any email notification afterwards that I was charged. I would never have even caught it unless I happened to be reviewing my bank statements that day. After contacting the owner, she told me off, and said that I should have known what I was signing up for and refused to refund me. How unbelievably shady! Pass on this hosting, or you'll surely regret it like I did.
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If you consider this route some things you'll need:
- A dedicated server of some sort. Any desktop PC that can run the version of windows your website is on now (no dedicated monitor required, you can just hook up your own to the PC to set it up and you can remote access in edits and the like)
- An internet provider that allows this sort of thing. (check with yours)
- A router/switch
- Any software your website requires
- Knowledge of this sort of thing or pay a nerdy friend to set it up for you (said friend might also have an old PC laying around you could consider buying)
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This is illegal with some ISPs. And also absolutely ridiculous. Self-hosting is free if your time is worthless.
we also talk about other random shit and clown upon each other
Also, please elaborate. It's amazing you can shoot down others opinions with a quick comment but really you should explain why you think it's ridiculous and a waste of time.
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Well, for one, you'd have to have the knowledge to pull it off, as well as the time, and patience, especially if you've never set up a web server.
Then you'd need a PC that could be used as a webserver. Unless you have one just laying around, that's at least $100 for anything considered usable.
Then you'd need a static IP, which in most places requires a minimum of business class internet and an additional monthly fee. For instance, the cheapest this can be done where I live is $100 a month plus $10 for the IP. If the OP is on a campus network it's not happening, period.
But, for a 12 month internet site, you're looking at $100, plus an additional jump in internet costs anywhere between (on average) $60 to $100 a month (if he was getting it free)
Or you can go with a hosting solution which can be had for as little as $5 a month.
So yeah, self hosting for something that small is a waste of time and money.
edit to actually contribute:
I use ipower for some smaller stuff. It's $100 for an entire year, which gives you enough bandwidth to not only run the site, but also gives you about 500 gigs (or so they say...) of online storage you can use for just about anything else (that's legal, that is)
You also get a domain name registered, bundles of email accounts, support for everything (sql, php, etc), automatic installation tools for Wordpress, Forum software, and Image Galleries, and up to 15 subdomains should you want to host more sites on that space and just buy more domain names.
The only downside is they are a little slow.
I can't refute any of that though, I wasn't aware it costed that much. Where does the extra $60-$100 come from though? Extra upload usage?
I'm earnestly curious here.
+1 for Dreamhost.
Generally "Business Class" internet comes with SLAs (service level agreement) revolving around things like downtime, packet loss, latency etc. If the ISP has problems beyond a certain agreed to level, you get service credits in return. Plus, as mentioned, most places charge extra for static IP(s). Add into that security issues, and I would never recommend someone who really didn't know exactly what they doing to host their own site. It's not worth it when you can get hosting for $12/y with no frills and maybe a little bit more if you need some extra things.
I typed that poorly, the extra money was based on an average high speed internet cost of $40 a month, so that would be the $60 more, all the way to $100 more if the OP is a student using campus internet, in a dorm perhaps, which is generally free.
http://www.holeinthewallhosting.com/i.php?l=874111720090902190973299
I think that gives 500 MB of space and 25 GB of bandwidth/month for $10/year. Without the referral it would be $19.
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Great and easy to use, and I'm on the cheapest package and have a ridiculous amount of space plus unlimited bandwidth
No problems in over 5 years
I've heard bluehost is not, as well as a few others.
Echoing my support for these guys. For $10 a year, you can't beat 'em. Their Ruby on Rails support is godawful, but other than that they're just as good (if not better) than any other more expensive hosting I've ever used. Speedy, full-featured Cpanel, and amazing support (you'll usually get a response back from a real human within an hour of sending in a ticket).
You also might want to look into your college's IT or CS departments. They'll often give you free hosting for student clubs, etc.
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i, uh...really? the Danica Patrick people? man I was hoping there'd be something more, well, indie or something. and cheaper.
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