MOTW 5-19-10: DC finally killed the right character

TexiKen

War of the Supermen #3 was actually good. It has nice Cafu art, and hits with a pace that should have been in place with #1. And it killed off someone who probably deserved it:

Thara dies, using her flamebird powers (and nightwings, although nightwing left Chris to help Thara) to turn the sun yellow again. The pedo deserved it. And all of Superman's Krypton squad he trained died (which sucked).

And Zod and Ursa and Non do what I expected to happen issues ago, they go apeshit:





Frankenstein cutting Kryptonians in half is an ongoing I could support



And the Super family saves Natasha and Jimmy, and his underground "Newsboy Legion" spreads the information around the world that Lane set this all up

And my LCS was shorted on Age of Heroes, which was sad because I was looking forward to that the most.

Munch

TexiKen wrote: »

And my LCS was shorted on Age of Heroes, which was sad because I was looking forward to that the most.

I'd actually recommend Enter the Heroic Age over Age of Heroes. The bulk of the latter is taken up by a story of J. Jonah Jameson talking to himself and hating all superheroes, with only two pages given to Captain Britain and MI13. The Doctor Voodoo story's pretty fun though, as is Dan Slott's one page Spider-Man story with Ty Templeton.

The Lovely Bastard

only two pages for Captain Britain?

unacceptable

Silver_Mage

Hey Texican, I think you mean:

Thara dies. Not Kara.

TexiKen

Only two pages? Well eff that then, it was the story I was buying the whole thing for.

edit: you're right silver mage my bad

Furu

I wonder if that'll be the format for all the other issues too, with the lead story (Gravity, Sharon Carter/Maria Hill/Victoria Hand, Black Panther) taking up the majority of the pages.

jkylefulton

Glad they got around to invalidating the last year of ACTION COMICS as well. What a waste.

Dr. Frenchenstein

man i'd hate to be a civilian in the DC universe. between blackest night and the war of the superman, insurance rates must be retardedly high.

also is that superman in the final scan? he looks awful young.

Lucascraft

jkylefulton wrote: »

Glad they got around to invalidating the last year of ACTION COMICS as well. What a waste.

Yeah, this whole thing is stupid. If I were Geoff Johns, I'd be pissed that they just unmade the awesome setup he had in the Braniac arc, and if I was Greg Rucka I'd be pissed that the characters I had been writing for the last year were killed in an event that I had no control over.

TexiKen

Geoff Johns is in no position to bitch about stories he wrote being changed, because that's pretty much all the guy's done with Superman since IC.

Rans

Johns likely gave the green light to this story what with his new position and all

TexiKen

Since it was a very light week I picked up Streets of Gotham #12 and it was a good issue, centering on the Carpenter doing work for a new Gotham villain "The Director" who is basically a villain version of Eli Roth, as well as Damien talking with Colin/Abuse

every kid deserves a motorcycle with optional gun attachment

MastaP

Munch wrote: »

TexiKen wrote: »

And my LCS was shorted on Age of Heroes, which was sad because I was looking forward to that the most.

I'd actually recommend Enter the Heroic Age over Age of Heroes. The bulk of the latter is taken up by a story of J. Jonah Jameson talking to himself and hating all superheroes

I would buy an ongoing of that. So I guess I'll pick it up

wirehead26

I'd say my MotW was in Ultimate Comics Avengers 2 #2...

when Black Hulk jumps in the air and grabs a small plane to crash on War Machine.

Munch

MastaP wrote: »

I would buy an ongoing of that. So I guess I'll pick it up

It sounds like it'd be awesome, but it's really not.

It's literally eleven pages of Jameson thinking about how to spin the battle in Asgard to turn the public against all superheroes and supervillains, watching the Avengers stop a tidal wave, being chagrined when a bunch of civilians get all excited to see the Avengers reunited, and then at the very end deciding to say that he likes the superheroes, in order to court public favor.

I haven't read Spider-Man comics in a while, but I always liked seeing Jameson as the guy that sticks to his principles and says what he means, not the two-faced weasel he's been painted as recently. Plus, I'm pretty sure Jameson always liked Captain America at the very least, and his problem was always with the heroes that hid their identities from the public.

Magna Inferno

Munch wrote: »

MastaP wrote: »

I would buy an ongoing of that. So I guess I'll pick it up

It sounds like it'd be awesome, but it's really not.

It's literally eleven pages of Jameson thinking about how to spin the battle in Asgard to turn the public against all superheroes and supervillains, watching the Avengers stop a tidal wave, being chagrined when a bunch of civilians get all excited to see the Avengers reunited, and then at the very end deciding to say that he likes the superheroes, in order to court public favor.

I haven't read Spider-Man comics in a while, but I always liked seeing Jameson as the guy that sticks to his principles and says what he means, not the two-faced weasel he's been painted as recently. Plus, I'm pretty sure Jameson always liked Captain America at the very least, and his problem was always with the heroes that hid their identities from the public.

I think he stopped liking Cap after that thing in New Avengers where they tried to give him exclusive media access, and in returned actual "fair press"

TexiKen

Jameson has always liked the Avengers and was a big supporter of the X-Men and mutants, and would like heroes even more if he knew their identity because that meant they had nothing to hide.

So yeah the idea he doesn't like the Avengers now seems like no one at Marvel decided to tell the writer their premise is kaputsky (hopefully that wasn't the Busiek story, because he should know better being a walking encyclopedia of comics).

DarkWarrior

I like how a war started by America results in the death of the British Prime Minister.

TexiKen

I like how your punk ass british writers are always killing/insulting our presidents in comics, so consider the favor returned.

With prejudice

DarkWarrior

Nuts to that,

DarkWarrior

Actually, now I read it, its the French, British AND Japanese Prime Minister getting murdered in cold blood for the actions of an American agent who I wasn't fond of already. If he isn't turned into paste by the end of this Im going to be so marginally irked.

TexiKen

As long as Jeremy Clarkson is alive that's all that matters.

DarkWarrior

Why do you hate us so much that you'd inflict Clarkson on us?

DarkWarrior

Luring Deadpool into a trap by announcing a Bea Arthur look-alike contest.

So awesome.

TexiKen

Spirit #2 was a good read, but it's by Mark Schultz so it can never be bad. And Moritat has really nice art as well.

The backup though had Kyle Baker using his new tracing art style that he used on DP #900, it looked like he posed some action figures, took some pictures, and traced.

MastaP

Munch wrote: »

MastaP wrote: »

I would buy an ongoing of that. So I guess I'll pick it up

It sounds like it'd be awesome, but it's really not.

It's literally eleven pages of Jameson thinking about how to spin the battle in Asgard to turn the public against all superheroes and supervillains, watching the Avengers stop a tidal wave, being chagrined when a bunch of civilians get all excited to see the Avengers reunited, and then at the very end deciding to say that he likes the superheroes, in order to court public favor.

I haven't read Spider-Man comics in a while, but I always liked seeing Jameson as the guy that sticks to his principles and says what he means, not the two-faced weasel he's been painted as recently. Plus, I'm pretty sure Jameson always liked Captain America at the very least, and his problem was always with the heroes that hid their identities from the public.

In the Spider-man books, Mayor Jameson is pretty much exactly the Jameson you want. I mean he still hates Spider-man enough to sanction an anti-spider squad, but he IS Jameson after all.

Vermis

TexiKen wrote: »

Jameson has always liked the Avengers and was a big supporter of the X-Men and mutants, and would like heroes even more if he knew their identity because that meant they had nothing to hide.

This. You can't not like JJJ after watching him chew out Bastion. (and to a lesser extent, that Tangled Web story)
It's up to the writer's situation and interpretation maybe, but the spiteful, weaselly times seem to take away more dimensions than they add.

The more I see of Damien in scans here, the more I like him. I think I better start reading Batman comics.

TexiKen

And finally, JLA #45 was good, the stuff about the starheart is interesting, and we had some good fight scenes throughout the issue, like so:

Munch

I liked seeing Shango pop up for a panel in JLA. The African Gods never really get much play in DC or Marvel. It's always about the Greek, Roman, and Norse pantheons.

Gank

At least in herc's secret invasion stint they had all the pantheons, includiong voodoo, african, even australian aborignal. I was impressed.

MastaP

Munch wrote: »

I liked seeing Shango pop up for a panel in JLA. The African Gods never really get much play in DC or Marvel. It's always about the Greek, Roman, and Norse pantheons.

To be fair, only Greek and New ever really got much play. And since DC doesn't love the myth aspects of Wonder Woman, New usually ends up front and center.

Not that I mind, I would totally be cool if it was revealed that the New Gods were the big earth pantheon.

Hell, now that it seems like the big creation story is the lantern spirits, have the Lantern Spirits secretly BE the New Gods:

Rage = Orion
Control through Fear = Darksied
Hope = Scott Free
Compassion = Himon / Highfather
Will = Barda (I suppose Scott could work here too. Maybe Fastbak)
Greed = Desaad / Virman Vundabar
Love = Bekka

Death = Black Racer (this would mean that Nekron WASN'T the avatar of death, but rather a misguided guardian of death)
Life = The Source

Dunno where Metron or Lightray would go. And lets face it, if you make any god an avatar of something, Metron needs to be a part of it. Unfortunately there's no colour for detached ambivalence. Though he could be orange.

Munch

From Atomic Robo.

Dr. Dinosaur, you're the best.

JyrenB

Munch wrote: »

From Atomic Robo.

Dr. Dinosaur, you're the best.

That just made my day. Why am I not reading Atomic Robo?

Munch

Probably because your store isn't ordering it. I just buy the TPBs, but found that preview image at CBR.

But hey, you can read the first appearance of Dr. Dinosaur, as well as all the other Free Comic Book Day Atomic Robo books, right here. It really is a great comic.

Gank

Atomic Robo is fantastic, started reading it a couple of months back and got all the trades. Done by the creater of 8-Bit Theatre and ten times as funny. Some of the scientific cameos and explanations leave me in stitches. Like Robo telling Dr. Dinosaur why he shouldn't, and can't, exist.

Htown

War of the Supermen:

Was... was that Red Shard?

That was unnecessary

MastaP

Munch wrote: »

Probably because your store isn't ordering it. I just buy the TPBs, but found that preview image at CBR.

That's never a good excuse. Any good store should be able to manage a decent pull list system and get what you want.

If not, get a new store.

Munch

Everyone should move to the magical city where comic shops exist a-plenty, just waiting for you to find the one that fits just right.

Seriously, I've had this argument twice in the past week. I'd rather not have it again. Suffice to say, not everyone can always get the comics they wish they could. For me, Amazon exists to fill that need.

MastaP

Munch wrote: »

Everyone should move to the magical city where comic shops exist a-plenty, just waiting for you to find the one that fits just right.

Seriously, I've had this argument twice in the past week. I'd rather not have it again. Suffice to say, not everyone can always get the comics they wish they could. For me, Amazon exists to fill that need.

Sorry, I work at a shop, so I get bewildered when shops can't use diamond right. But I have no problem with people choosing Amazon or whatever they want to get their comics, whether or not there is a store in the area. As customers it's their right.

I get annoyed by bad shops, not the customers who choose alternatives.

Kyougu

His expression in the second to last panel is fantastic.

Futt Bucker

MastaP wrote: »

Munch wrote: »

I liked seeing Shango pop up for a panel in JLA. The African Gods never really get much play in DC or Marvel. It's always about the Greek, Roman, and Norse pantheons.

To be fair, only Greek and New ever really got much play. And since DC doesn't love the myth aspects of Wonder Woman, New usually ends up front and center.

Not that I mind, I would totally be cool if it was revealed that the New Gods were the big earth pantheon.

Hell, now that it seems like the big creation story is the lantern spirits, have the Lantern Spirits secretly BE the New Gods:

Rage = Orion
Control through Fear = Darksied
Hope = Scott Free
Compassion = Himon / Highfather
Will = Barda (I suppose Scott could work here too. Maybe Fastbak)
Greed = Desaad / Virman Vundabar
Love = Bekka

Death = Black Racer (this would mean that Nekron WASN'T the avatar of death, but rather a misguided guardian of death)
Life = The Source

Dunno where Metron or Lightray would go. And lets face it, if you make any god an avatar of something, Metron needs to be a part of it. Unfortunately there's no colour for detached ambivalence. Though he could be orange.

I think Metron would be a better choice for Greed, considering his never ending thirst for new knowledge.