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Is my computer fucking dead? update: FUCK!!!! SHIT!!
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I can't tell.
Here's how it all went down, I built a computer, started up, started installing windows 7, etc.. everything was fine.
But then I noticed a smell coming from my computer. Not good. I opened it up and looked inside but I didn't see anything burning, no smoke or anything. In fact, it wasn't even a burning type of smell, at first I thought it was burning thermal paste or something, like maybe some of it had smeared out when the heat sink was put on and was now just burning in open air, but nope. Then I realized, the smell was more like the Arctic Silver thermal paste cleaner and purifier I used to remove the old heat sink's paste from the CPU, only burning up. Either way, shit was rank, I don't know what it was.
I left the computer for a few moments, when I came back, it was off, and wouldn't turn on again. Sometimes, it would turn off for a fraction of a second, the Power LED would come on, but then it shut off again.
So I moved the CPU back to my old motherboard. Hooked everything up. This time, the machine turned on, but there was no POST beep, and nothing appeared on the monitor despite the video card being hooked up correctly. The POST beep doesn't happen even if there isn't a video card in there or no hard drives connected. If I take out the RAM and start it up without RAM, the old motherboard beeps continuously like it's searching for memory.
So is my CPU fried? I can't really tell. There's no visible damage on it. Would a motherboard still power up even if it had a dead CPU in it? And more importantly, have I harmed my components by having a dead CPU on the motherboard?
I think the old motherboard is definitely fucked somehow, could it have killed my CPU? And could it have killed the rest of my components simultaneously? Maybe my video card is also dead?
Here's how it all went down, I built a computer, started up, started installing windows 7, etc.. everything was fine.
But then I noticed a smell coming from my computer. Not good. I opened it up and looked inside but I didn't see anything burning, no smoke or anything. In fact, it wasn't even a burning type of smell, at first I thought it was burning thermal paste or something, like maybe some of it had smeared out when the heat sink was put on and was now just burning in open air, but nope. Then I realized, the smell was more like the Arctic Silver thermal paste cleaner and purifier I used to remove the old heat sink's paste from the CPU, only burning up. Either way, shit was rank, I don't know what it was.
I left the computer for a few moments, when I came back, it was off, and wouldn't turn on again. Sometimes, it would turn off for a fraction of a second, the Power LED would come on, but then it shut off again.
So I moved the CPU back to my old motherboard. Hooked everything up. This time, the machine turned on, but there was no POST beep, and nothing appeared on the monitor despite the video card being hooked up correctly. The POST beep doesn't happen even if there isn't a video card in there or no hard drives connected. If I take out the RAM and start it up without RAM, the old motherboard beeps continuously like it's searching for memory.
So is my CPU fried? I can't really tell. There's no visible damage on it. Would a motherboard still power up even if it had a dead CPU in it? And more importantly, have I harmed my components by having a dead CPU on the motherboard?
I think the old motherboard is definitely fucked somehow, could it have killed my CPU? And could it have killed the rest of my components simultaneously? Maybe my video card is also dead?
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Sounds like it overheated. It's likely the paste was inappropriately applied somehow. At least, that's what happened when my CPU died a few years back.
Only thing I can think of is that this Arctic Silver 5 is like a year old, does this stuff expire?
I also had to clean off old thermal paste using their thermal surface cleaner and purifier, for the purification I used a lint free cloth, but for the cleaner I just used a paper towel to wipe off the thermal paste. Was the microscopic surface ravaged?
but yea, sounds like the CPU fried.
well is there anything interesting I can do with a dead CPU? To get my money's worth.
Maybe look at it under a microscope? do they leave easter eggs
FUCK. $500 on a new processor down the drain, and now I probably have to test a new motherboard. Need advice
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Fuck
I'm probably going to have to buy a new motherboard tomorrow
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Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
I tried resetting the CMOS by taking the battery out for about 2 hours, still no POST or bootup, nothing appeared on the monitor.
Pretty sure the motherboards are fucked, I'm buying a new one soon. Somehow I must have destroyed both the motherboards through a static discharge or something.
What is the make/model of your PSU, out of curiosity?
Make sure you pick up a mobo with a good return policy so that you have some fallback if this happens again. Arctic Silver doesn't expire, but it probably wouldn't hurt to "splurge" on a new tube for 5 bucks.
What HSF are you using?
Another 300 dollars
down the fucking drain
Ok, so what happens with everything installed in the new mobo, but no CPU? Does it POST?
And everything installed, with the suspect CPU in. POST?
Are your items compatible? You using the right sockets? Is that particular CPU valid on the current bios of the mobo?
Plus, I hope your PSU is supplying clean, stable volt/amps.
Good luck, I've been where you are and it ain't fun
The motherboard beeps continuously if you start it up without RAM.
If it's the power supply, which is a strong possibility at this point, then how would I know? There's nothing immediately obvious about it that seems wrong, it just seems to be working like a normal power supply.
Motherboard has it's 24 pin connector and 8 pin connector connected properly. Running it even without chasis fans connected. CPU fan is connect. And as far as I can tell, the old CPU and the new CPU were both correctly inserted into their motherboard, unless maybe the zero insertion force bracket just happened to not be working on all the mobos.
I just don't know.
And could a bad power supply basically kill all these components anyway?
Crappy PSUs can sometimes provide not enough / too much power to some components, causing things not to function and potentially damaging systems.
Can you give us brand/wattage of your PSU? Actually can you give us info on all your stuff (CPU, mobo, graphics card, other things)?
Regardless of which brand you choose, though, it's always a good idea to test the PSU with a multimeter to ensure that you're getting the right about of current (Note: Following that guide, I'd just test the 12 and 5V lines from the Molex. Testing the lines on the Mobo takes some MacGuyver finesse and a piece of wire to trip the PSU without its being connect to anything. It's your decision there). Be sure to check both voltage and amperage on the lines.
I once had a PSU that was well rated above spec for my video card, in terms of both overall wattage and current on each rail. However, the computer kept shutting itself down and sounding an alarm whenever it was running. It was an Antec PSU so I thought it was solid without fail. When I did a multimeter check on the 12V rail, there was a piddling 16A coming out, meaning the PSU was trash.
So, yeah. It may seem overkill to take a multimeter to your PSU, but at this point I don't see a whole lot of other options to test. Even the best brand PSU can have issues, or get damaged.
Then get something like this off the internet
Don't buy anything else and return/replace what you can
edit: yeah or you could use a standard multimeter, but as long as you're spending upwards of $800
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
I'm going to buy that Power supply tester and settle this once and for all.
If it is my powersupply then are my new CPU and motherboard dead? And would the video card also be dead then since there was some times i powered up with the video card in?
CPUs only have a 30 day replacement policy, just because your motherboard is apparently fried, you won't replace the CPU and let the $500 go to waste? I'd replace every single thing that breaks and not let that money go to waste at all.
PC Power and Cooling got bought by OCZ a couple of years ago, but that has done nothing other than make their products even stronger. Tops for PSU manufacturers for me:
PCP&C
OCZ
Corsair
Cooler Master
Seasonic
Any PSU that comes with a case is a 100% piece of shit.
Don't buy a PSU yet. Test it though. If you're getting power to the mobo and everything is spinning up, you're either not getting enough juice to the vidcard, the vidcard isn't inserted all the way, or part of it is fried (unlikely).
Yes, this all sucks, but if you take your time and stay relaxed, you can be methodical and get to the root of the problem. As soon as you start to get frustrated, walk away from the computer for a few minutes and do something else.
Do you get the "beep" from POST and you're just not seeing anything on the screen?
(mostly for detective work, but I'd doubt it's your problem) See if you can find out what version of BIOS was loaded into the motherboard and if that version supports your new CPU. It's likely you'd have other issues besides a blank screen, though, if this was the case. For example, there would probably be some sort of annoying beeping.
Yes. And like I asked earlier, tell us what brand/title of your main components are. Knowing this kind of info could help to understand underlying issues, you know what I'm sayin'?
At this point you did verify that this monitor is working fine on another computer, or that a known working monitor was not working on this one, yes?
So I transfered the CPU back to the old motherboard, and that one powered up but didn't POST or show anything on the monitor.
So I bought a new CPU for 500, because it seemed like the CPU died somehow in the transfer.
and then I put it in the old motherboard, no POST. Tried it the new motherboard too, no power up.
So THEN I bought ANOTHER motherboard for around 300, put the CPU in, but no POST even though it was powered on.
Now I'm going to buy a power supply tester, probably for about 25 bucks or something just to see if this power supply is working correctly.
I guess I can return the new CPU and new Motherboard that I bought, but all they will send me is a replacement CPU and replacement motherboard, not my hard earned money.
And if this power supply is fucked, then my video card was probably also fucked, and that shit cost 400 dollars alone.
The monitor should be working correctly, I see the "NO SIGNAL" stuff appear on it anyway.
Who knows
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
I'm going to send them the package immediately at the fastest possible shipment option, but am I gonna have to wait two fucking weeks for these fuckers to send me something back?
Can I just pay for their shipment ahead of time? Next Day Air
If you explain your situation really thoroughly, you might be able to set up an RMA and just buy a new one and send in the old one. DO NOT DO THIS unless you're completely sure that they're okay with it, though. That was how I replaced a case I found out was broke after I put all the parts in. I was able to reorder a new case and pretty much send in the old case in time for the (refund) back, even though the case policy was replacement only, preventing me from having to keep delicate computer parts from lying around the room. It's because I explained the situation beforehand and explored my options.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
I'd add that you should do this on their livechat feature, or possibly try a phone call. They're quite good with both avenues, from what I've experienced in the past. I just had to RMA a mobo, and Newegg is one of the best (if not THE best) retailers when it comes to returning merchandise.
tried another, got the same results anyway on the motherboards
running out of time and options
The simple fact that; 1. It ran for a bit and then died. 2. It smells funny. Hello burned up psu!
You may have broken other things along the way now with all this hopscotchery you're doing with the parts, but I suggest taking a step back and looking at the mechanics if your system with strong logic. At this point if I were you, I would swap the main 3 out for new parts all at once and save yourself from blowing good hardware up.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.