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The Curious Urge to Milk Women, Seduce Crops, and Plant Farm Animals
Bizzare. Yeah, it is level based more then affection. The thing is, as they get brushed they also get XP so they can level without ever taking them out of the barn. It's just a lot slower.
Confirmed: grabbed a Cluckadoodle at about level 10, ran it up to 21 that day, and the next morning it shat out a Medium egg (and somehow got 1 affection in the process).
There's no suitor competition in this game, right?
If so I'm going to see every event possible and leave a save before I get married.
There's not even enough viable men to go around for any competition, so you're good. There seem to be only two real "competitors", and it doesn't sound like the game's going to move things up until you do ala 2:
Gaius apparently has the hots for Evalyn and supposedly parks himself in the Apothacary every so often to watch her go by. And Carlos...well, I think we all know what we're all thinking on that one.
I got a quest reward early on of pancakes, and I was thinking about just throwing it straight back to the pastry kid until I noticed that they sell for 4.1k.
Good googley moogly.
Also if you get the quest from reverse girl to bring her food you can keep feeding her dishes and getting 2k out of it until you leave the room. I had three stacks of fail dishes from picking weeds anyways, so that was some easy money.
Seriously, it's not like you <i>need</i> money really
First boss has a chance of dropping Tempura Udon... which gives a whopping +30k
I love the fact that skill leveling takes out the need to get experience levels in this game. I just turned lvl. 30 and I've already beaten the first 4 dungeons... apparently there's only one more to go before I get the ending (huzzah!).
The Fall Dungeon boss is kicking my ass (although I am, like, 15 levels below the recommended one, I think)
Levelling allies is a pain in the ass, especially because sometimes I can't quite figure out why I can't recruit some companions at given times - the box just doesn't show up.
/edit Okay, what the hell is with weeds in this game. Shit keeps replacing all my crops. I WANT PERFECT FIELDS OF AWESOME, DAMNIT.
Yeah, that that the random weather can shift over into the catastrophic and damaging patterns over the course of the day is the one complaint I've got regarding the system, and I've just gotten into the habit of saving often and reloading if I get hit with a hurricane or snowstorm.
Finally beat the fourth dungeon and'm right before marriage, and I am absolutly loving this game. The cast is just such an interesting and/or wonderfully-insane bunch that I'm pretty much focusing soley on the social stuff at this point, and they just seem to have SOOOO much material that I'm always uncovering new bits or the next chain of a dialogue connection (speaking of which, that is just a WONDERFUL touch the writers gave this, and you just uncover these neat little mini-story-arcs that flesh things out just that tiny bit further) not to mention all the shout-outs and self-reflections and innuendos and pants-on-head-absurd bits. I don't even know if I want to tie the knot at this point since I'm sure that'd cut off a whole bunch of quests and dialogue options and stuff.
Best of the frickin' series. Hell, at this point if the devs can maintain this level of quality I'd actually say that Rune Factory surpasses Harvest Moon.
So I know RF3 is all the rage, but I just picked up Frontier on the cheap, and after playing for a bit I decided to look online to understand this whole 'Runey' thing.
Holy shit, what a huge pain in the ass. If I am understanding this right, I'm going to need to use that slow as hell harvester to play a goddamn spreadsheet game all over the game map or my crops will end up growing molasses slow. Please tell me there is some way around this. At this point I'm about ready to sell the game and pick up RF3, although I really like having a decent harvest moon game on a console.
So I know RF3 is all the rage, but I just picked up Frontier on the cheap, and after playing for a bit I decided to look online to understand this whole 'Runey' thing.
Holy shit, what a huge pain in the ass. If I am understanding this right, I'm going to need to use that slow as hell harvester to play a goddamn spreadsheet game all over the game map or my crops will end up growing molasses slow. Please tell me there is some way around this. At this point I'm about ready to sell the game and pick up RF3, although I really like having a decent harvest moon game on a console.
You have to do that every 3 or so days, forever. If you plant anything, that is. You can make so much money fishing that I never really planted anything.
So I know RF3 is all the rage, but I just picked up Frontier on the cheap, and after playing for a bit I decided to look online to understand this whole 'Runey' thing.
Holy shit, what a huge pain in the ass. If I am understanding this right, I'm going to need to use that slow as hell harvester to play a goddamn spreadsheet game all over the game map or my crops will end up growing molasses slow. Please tell me there is some way around this. At this point I'm about ready to sell the game and pick up RF3, although I really like having a decent harvest moon game on a console.
Short and sweet, you;re absolutely right. The Runey system blows so much it dents time. But you only really have to concentrate on it for about one season if you're diligent and then barely ever at all again and the rest of the game overall is amazing (RF3 is better tho but replaces annoying Runeys with annoying hurricanes).
Another cheap way to do things is get 40+ of every runey at your farm. Any time you go over 40, suck them up and store them away. Check the Runey status and if anything is in danger of going completely extinct, take a few from storage and throw them over there. You only have to keep ONE area gold and none black to get the 2x growth speed bonus and your farm Runeys don't eat each other.
I picked RF3 on a lark, just because of all the praise here. I'm only on like day 2-3, decent game though I feel a tiny bit overwhelmed. Farming feels the same as ever, though I did groan a little when one of the books mentioned that you have to rotate your crops less you wear out the soil, which seems like a drag. Then I went into the first dungeon because I had a quest to collect iron, and I'm getting my ass kicked by the wildlife because they take like 20 hits to my 3.
Any tips for the early game? I'm kind of hitting that point like in open sandbox games where you can do anything, but I'm paralyzed by choice and just spin my wheels.
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"The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
I picked RF3 on a lark, just because of all the praise here. I'm only on like day 2-3, decent game though I feel a tiny bit overwhelmed. Farming feels the same as ever, though I did groan a little when one of the books mentioned that you have to rotate your crops less you wear out the soil, which seems like a drag. Then I went into the first dungeon because I had a quest to collect iron, and I'm getting my ass kicked by the wildlife because they take like 20 hits to my 3.
Any tips for the early game? I'm kind of hitting that point like in open sandbox games where you can do anything, but I'm paralyzed by choice and just spin my wheels.
Work on getting skills up. Make some friends and take THEM into the dungeons along with your Magic Seed; let them level you up. Grind some quests off the board and your mail box. Don't worry about crop rotation, just plant in a different spot every time you plant. You'll NEVER have to use all your farn space anyway. If you're still in sprting, make sure you cook all your turnips. That levels up cooking and fishing, once you get the knife set from Blaise, can help by making sashimi. Then you're levelling cooking AND fishing as well as getting phat lootz.
Also, keep an eye out for chests in dungeons, you can snag some horribly overpowered weapons early on from those. I found a poison rapier that not only poisons the enemies but drains their health back to me. I'm pretty much impossible to kill now.
Well, amazon had Tree of Tranquility for 19.99 new, and free shipping. So I skipped right to that. It should arrive tomorrow. Should I have started with something else?
Her laptop keeps crashing on her while she plays the sims and shes getting so sad that I wanted to give her a new game super quick to make her happy while I try to figure out why this keeps happening. Hopefully Tree of Tranquility does the trick.
Well, amazon had Tree of Tranquility for 19.99 new, and free shipping. So I skipped right to that. It should arrive tomorrow. Should I have started with something else?
ToT isn't quite as beginner friendly as Magical Melody and Animal Parade. Also, the graphics are really bad. She may get lost a bit as there's lots to do with lots of options and the freedom can be a little overwhelming at first but maybe snag the strategy guide as well; the HM guides tend to be very very good with ACTUAL strategy rather then just a lazy walkthrough with no details.
That being said outside of the two Island themed HM DS games no game in the series is particularly hard to get into.
It does make me wish that they'd bring back HM 64 in some manner this generation as it really is the best possible starting point. Simple and addictive, with lots of hidden stuff to explore.
That being said outside of the two Island themed HM DS games no game in the series is particularly hard to get into.
It does make me wish that they'd bring back HM 64 in some manner this generation as it really is the best possible starting point. Simple and addictive, with lots of hidden stuff to explore.
Yeah HM64 is what got me addicted.
Once I got BTN, though, I found HM64 really hard to play.
Ok, is Magical Melody for wii the same as the one for gamecube? I bought the one for wii.
I figure i can give her both it and ToT and tell her to play Magical Melody first. Then when shes slightly bored of it, move on to ToT? Or is ToT just a worse game then Magical melody? Perhaps I can return it to walmart or something unopened? It only ran me 19.99 so its not the end of the world either way.
Ok, is Magical Melody for wii the same as the one for gamecube? I bought the one for wii.
I figure i can give her both it and ToT and tell her to play Magical Melody first. Then when shes slightly bored of it, move on to ToT?
I believe so. I have the one for GC, so I'm not sure.
Honestly, I think she can play them in any order. Both are fun, but I think MM harkens back to more traditional HM senses. ToT has a lot of good things about it too, though.
Ok, is Magical Melody for wii the same as the one for gamecube? I bought the one for wii.
I figure i can give her both it and ToT and tell her to play Magical Melody first. Then when shes slightly bored of it, move on to ToT? Or is ToT just a worse game then Magical melody? Perhaps I can return it to walmart or something unopened? It only ran me 19.99 so its not the end of the world either way.
No, the Wii one is awful and only has half the game. That's why I said get the Gamecube version. ToT is a great game, just a little on the complex side for a starter HM game.
So I've got two woolies and two cows at affection 9 and finally got around to making a second barn. What are other worthwhile monsters to pick up assuming I'm not getting them for their combat prowess?
So I've got two woolies and two cows at affection 9 and finally got around to making a second barn. What are other worthwhile monsters to pick up assuming I'm not getting them for their combat prowess?
Every monster will drop stuff in the morning that they can normally drop when killed. You may wanna grab a spider for thread or a tomato/onion ghost for cheap seeds. Plus, they all can work on your farm, so just grab some you like the looks of.
Is there a way to build up your stamina bar, or rune bar or whatever the name for the blue bar is? I'm draining myself down half way just from watering the crops, and it doesn't leave much left for fightin'.
The Wolfman on
"The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
Is there a way to build up your stamina bar, or rune bar or whatever the name for the blue bar is? I'm draining myself down half way just from watering the crops, and it doesn't leave much left for fightin'.
Every time you raise a skill, you increase your Rune points. So just do stuff. Crafting helps a lot as does fishing and fighting in wooly form and fighting using different weapons. Also, apples are easy to get in the spring dungeon and, once you buy the mixer, you can make RP restoring juices with them. Which ALSO levels up your cooking which will give you more RP.
Is there a way to build up your stamina bar, or rune bar or whatever the name for the blue bar is? I'm draining myself down half way just from watering the crops, and it doesn't leave much left for fightin'.
You get a higher maximum RP as you increase your level and skills. In addition, the higher your skills are, the less RP the associated actions use up.
That said, consumables play a big part in managing your RP and whatnot, much bigger than they did in the previous games. So try to keep an eye out for apple trees and mushrooms in the Spring dungeon. Just remember to try to keep some antidote herbs on you, and to avoid eating mushrooms during combat if you can help it. Check out the stats on the items you collect and the crops you harvest (left shoulder button when you select the item in the start menu) to see if/how their consumption can benefit you.
Also, you can whack those little flowers you sometimes see in dungeons with a sharp tool or weapon to spawn a small orb you can collect for a small RP boost. Same with the blue crystal formations, only use a hammer instead.
I was harvesting flowers in the summer dungeon and one of them left a rune ball behind. I picked it up and suddenly learned a combat art for a weapon I didn't even have equipped or that I even owned. What up with that?
I was harvesting flowers in the summer dungeon and one of them left a rune ball behind. I picked it up and suddenly learned a combat art for a weapon I didn't even have equipped or that I even owned. What up with that?
You know how Rune Spirits increase a single stat alongside giving you a bit of RP? Rune Orbs do the same, only with skills instead of stats.
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There's not even enough viable men to go around for any competition, so you're good. There seem to be only two real "competitors", and it doesn't sound like the game's going to move things up until you do ala 2:
Blasphemy.
Good googley moogly.
Also if you get the quest from reverse girl to bring her food you can keep feeding her dishes and getting 2k out of it until you leave the room. I had three stacks of fail dishes from picking weeds anyways, so that was some easy money.
First boss has a chance of dropping Tempura Udon... which gives a whopping +30k
I love the fact that skill leveling takes out the need to get experience levels in this game. I just turned lvl. 30 and I've already beaten the first 4 dungeons... apparently there's only one more to go before I get the ending (huzzah!).
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Levelling allies is a pain in the ass, especially because sometimes I can't quite figure out why I can't recruit some companions at given times - the box just doesn't show up.
/edit Okay, what the hell is with weeds in this game. Shit keeps replacing all my crops. I WANT PERFECT FIELDS OF AWESOME, DAMNIT.
Finally beat the fourth dungeon and'm right before marriage, and I am absolutly loving this game. The cast is just such an interesting and/or wonderfully-insane bunch that I'm pretty much focusing soley on the social stuff at this point, and they just seem to have SOOOO much material that I'm always uncovering new bits or the next chain of a dialogue connection (speaking of which, that is just a WONDERFUL touch the writers gave this, and you just uncover these neat little mini-story-arcs that flesh things out just that tiny bit further) not to mention all the shout-outs and self-reflections and innuendos and pants-on-head-absurd bits. I don't even know if I want to tie the knot at this point since I'm sure that'd cut off a whole bunch of quests and dialogue options and stuff.
Best of the frickin' series. Hell, at this point if the devs can maintain this level of quality I'd actually say that Rune Factory surpasses Harvest Moon.
Holy shit, what a huge pain in the ass. If I am understanding this right, I'm going to need to use that slow as hell harvester to play a goddamn spreadsheet game all over the game map or my crops will end up growing molasses slow. Please tell me there is some way around this. At this point I'm about ready to sell the game and pick up RF3, although I really like having a decent harvest moon game on a console.
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You have to do that every 3 or so days, forever. If you plant anything, that is. You can make so much money fishing that I never really planted anything.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Start with Magical Melody for the Gamecube. Go to Animal Parade, Tree of Tranquility and then Rune Factory Frontier.
Play your cards right and you'll never have to see her again.
Read this: http://fogu.com/hmforum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=106807
It'll tell you all about Runeys.
Short and sweet, you;re absolutely right. The Runey system blows so much it dents time. But you only really have to concentrate on it for about one season if you're diligent and then barely ever at all again and the rest of the game overall is amazing (RF3 is better tho but replaces annoying Runeys with annoying hurricanes).
Another cheap way to do things is get 40+ of every runey at your farm. Any time you go over 40, suck them up and store them away. Check the Runey status and if anything is in danger of going completely extinct, take a few from storage and throw them over there. You only have to keep ONE area gold and none black to get the 2x growth speed bonus and your farm Runeys don't eat each other.
Any tips for the early game? I'm kind of hitting that point like in open sandbox games where you can do anything, but I'm paralyzed by choice and just spin my wheels.
Work on getting skills up. Make some friends and take THEM into the dungeons along with your Magic Seed; let them level you up. Grind some quests off the board and your mail box. Don't worry about crop rotation, just plant in a different spot every time you plant. You'll NEVER have to use all your farn space anyway. If you're still in sprting, make sure you cook all your turnips. That levels up cooking and fishing, once you get the knife set from Blaise, can help by making sashimi. Then you're levelling cooking AND fishing as well as getting phat lootz.
Also, keep an eye out for chests in dungeons, you can snag some horribly overpowered weapons early on from those. I found a poison rapier that not only poisons the enemies but drains their health back to me. I'm pretty much impossible to kill now.
Her laptop keeps crashing on her while she plays the sims and shes getting so sad that I wanted to give her a new game super quick to make her happy while I try to figure out why this keeps happening. Hopefully Tree of Tranquility does the trick.
It does make me wish that they'd bring back HM 64 in some manner this generation as it really is the best possible starting point. Simple and addictive, with lots of hidden stuff to explore.
Yeah HM64 is what got me addicted.
Once I got BTN, though, I found HM64 really hard to play.
And then I did the same thing with Magical Melody, though I at least remember buying that one. Still never played it for more than 5 minutes.
I figure i can give her both it and ToT and tell her to play Magical Melody first. Then when shes slightly bored of it, move on to ToT? Or is ToT just a worse game then Magical melody? Perhaps I can return it to walmart or something unopened? It only ran me 19.99 so its not the end of the world either way.
Beats me. It's not out of any hatred. I just played them for a bit, then stuff came up... and I never got around to turning them on again. :P
I believe so. I have the one for GC, so I'm not sure.
Honestly, I think she can play them in any order. Both are fun, but I think MM harkens back to more traditional HM senses. ToT has a lot of good things about it too, though.
Oh well, she plays the Sims as dudes, im sure she wll enjoy it regardless. That way I can talk up ToT as allowing you to play a girl as a sequel...
No, the Wii one is awful and only has half the game. That's why I said get the Gamecube version. ToT is a great game, just a little on the complex side for a starter HM game.
I'll never understand this rabid devotion to HM64. It's an awful, awful game. I have to assume it's just nostalgia.
Well you see, you live in bizzaro world.
ME AM EAT POOP AND SHIT ROAST
I mean you shut up, no I don't!
Every monster will drop stuff in the morning that they can normally drop when killed. You may wanna grab a spider for thread or a tomato/onion ghost for cheap seeds. Plus, they all can work on your farm, so just grab some you like the looks of.
Good call on the spiders though. Lately I've been needing more string.
They produce honey and you need that shit.
Also, get a chicken.
Well, tomato seed isn't a bad idea since you grow those in the summer and you have to replace summer plants all the dang time because of hurricanes.
Every time you raise a skill, you increase your Rune points. So just do stuff. Crafting helps a lot as does fishing and fighting in wooly form and fighting using different weapons. Also, apples are easy to get in the spring dungeon and, once you buy the mixer, you can make RP restoring juices with them. Which ALSO levels up your cooking which will give you more RP.
And takes baths. Lots of baths.
You get a higher maximum RP as you increase your level and skills. In addition, the higher your skills are, the less RP the associated actions use up.
That said, consumables play a big part in managing your RP and whatnot, much bigger than they did in the previous games. So try to keep an eye out for apple trees and mushrooms in the Spring dungeon. Just remember to try to keep some antidote herbs on you, and to avoid eating mushrooms during combat if you can help it. Check out the stats on the items you collect and the crops you harvest (left shoulder button when you select the item in the start menu) to see if/how their consumption can benefit you.
Also, you can whack those little flowers you sometimes see in dungeons with a sharp tool or weapon to spawn a small orb you can collect for a small RP boost. Same with the blue crystal formations, only use a hammer instead.
I was harvesting flowers in the summer dungeon and one of them left a rune ball behind. I picked it up and suddenly learned a combat art for a weapon I didn't even have equipped or that I even owned. What up with that?
You know how Rune Spirits increase a single stat alongside giving you a bit of RP? Rune Orbs do the same, only with skills instead of stats.