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How Bout them apples hm? HMM!? HHHMMMMMMMMMMMM!?!?!?!?!?
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I have to say that a lot of it looks good but its hard to tell which ones are all your own artwork and which ones are drawn while referenceing someone elses artwork.
And maybe youre not referenceing others, in which case Im sorry, but your style and forms change a lot and seem really similar to other guys out there. Obviously Joe Mad for one.
The last few months ive been trying to make my art look solid/beliveable. In my opinion, if your art looks like its floating in the air in any or the eyes/nose are out of porportion/perspective to the face but every thing else looks awsome it ruins the whole picture. I Often use references, wheither it be print screens of anime, joe mad, tim townsend, scott Williams, tae hyun kim, scottie young, Manga, random DA people, random danbooru artwork, etc, I would rather make a pic accurate by referencing material I know is correct than by winging it and screwing up.
I would say around 70% of my work is referenced. I may even use several reference's for one pose or piece. So, im not partial at all for using refernces. in fact i all for it.
The onely piece that I cant claim total ownage over is the Street fighter girls which was a brush inking practice.
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This is pretty much standard advice around here, but its good advice: Start drawing from life. Referencing other artists is all well and good (if you are not passing it off as original that is), but getting the same foundation that allows THEM to do what they do would be even better. Learn what the human body looks like, what it does, etc. and then when you draw from imagination, you won't just be winging it and screwing up. You'll have a solid knowledge base of the human body and life to work from.
For example:
Now I could be wrong but when I saw this page as soon as I saw the guy at the bottom with his back turned towards the audience I thought, "Wait. Thats almost exactly like something Joe Mad drew in Battle Chasers."
As a consumer as soon as I see something like that which I can recognize I immediately lose in terest in the rest of the artwork and certainly wouldnt buy it if it were a comic.
So if youre looking to be a camic book artist Id have to second Wassers comments.
Work from real people. Learn anatomy and perspective first. Then if you want to develop a more exagerated style like your favorite artists you will have a solid foundation from which create your own images.
There is a very significant difference between having a style that is similar to another artists, and replicating images that are recognizably replicated from another atrists original work.
If you have any other work toss it up Id be interested in seeing it. Especially stuff where you didnt use another artists drawing as a reference.
another uncompleted page. I made minor changes to the pencils from it was scanned though.second to the last penl I shortend his leg and edited his face.
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STOP "referencing" (in this case stealing) comic artists stuff and start learning HOW TO DRAW. Study anatomy, draw from life...christ if you're gonna draw from something at least try www.posemaniacs.com
We have people like you com in all the time, and you either
1) get all pissy defending what you're doing, then leave because people aren't ooing and ahhing like your parents and friends do
2) take the advice given and actually improve as an artist.
right now it's impossible to tell your skill because as you said 70% is straight copied. You want to get serious? come back with a still life you did FROM life, and lets go from there. Lets start off with a basic apple. Lets see 3 pencil drawings of the same apple from 3 different angles. Just for giggles.
teeheee
edit: not that way
haha, Im beginning to like this site.
Ive been drawing for years and ive also took several fine arts classes that delt with pastels, charcoal and allitle bit of paint. What does that have to do with comic book art? :It tought me how light and shadow act and now I understand why the pros do what they do. Its the diference from just doing and understanding.
1.) what makes you thing I was pissy? I was explaining what my proccese was.
2.)Referencing is not copying. You made it sound like I was COPYING while referencing is a common way to draw from a correct standpoint rather than draw from straight imagination. Get your words straight. Read my previous post; I would rather not get my perspective, angle, anatomy and many other things that could go wrong, incorect. The site you gave me although it is a great resourse, does not offer the exagerated comic book porportions that I look for.
BTW Ill take you up on your apple drawing just to hammer the last nail in your coffin and make you look bad. After that though, I am going to post any other work that I have to offer to public scrutiny while ignoring your retarded ignorant rants. I have confidence in my abilitys.
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As an inspiring comic artist myself, I know how tempting the dark... Referencing can be in the midst of batt- drawing. So, I try to use as little referencing as possible and when I do I'd rather use photos to apply my own style to what I see.
Sure a pose here and a pose there seems innocent, but eventually it's YOUR style this is about not your drawing abilities.
But it still looks damn awesome
The advice you'll get from the very talented people here will likely be the following:
1) Stop what you are doing.
2) Go to the Questions, Discussion, Tutorials thread.
3) Pick up or download the instructional materials listed and actually learn to draw from life.
4) THEN start going stylistic.
Anime and manga artists learn to draw people and things before they learn to draw manga. Same with comic book artists, animators, painters, sculptors, and anyone who does anything with art. You are trying to skip steps and cut corners. It won't pay off.
Trust me, I was self-taught and did the same thing until I came here and was shown the light. I took that advice and my work has improved dramatically.
This comment makes you look like a silly goose. This isn't about confidence or how good you are, but how you can improve.
Brush inking practice.
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Im silly because I accepted his challenge?
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because you want him to look bad, because he came with some pretty hard criticism.
Being an arse to an arse just becomes a whole lot of shit... Errrr
edit: I'm not implying any of you are arses, it was just an example
Because your stated motivation is to make him look bad (and presumably make yourself look good) rather than to improve your own skills, which is the core purpose of his post and this forum.
It's really not that hard; that's the problem. There is the tight, dynamic stuff lifted straight from Joe Mad, and there's the comparatively flat, lumpy-looking stuff like this one:
That said, your linework, derivative though some of it may be, looks tight and promising. Don't shrug off advice to draw from life, even if it sounds like a canned response, because there really is no way to get the same kind of dynamism and spatial presence the pros pull off with imagined imagery unless you know the real thing backwards and forwards.
Welcome to the AC. Don't get yourself run off on day 1.
I kinda made her lumpy on porpose to give the illusion of armor, but people didnt like it. thus im trying to redo it. Thnxd!
inks and colors are later.
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He was presuming that I had no skills, accused my work of being copying and challenged me to draw somthing without reference.
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Dude you're getting all pissy just as i said you MIGHT! NOT WERE! Looks like i'm correct. I try to give you advice and you act like a little bitch. Taking classes doen't mean a thing if you don't learn. ANYONE can sign up for, pay for, and take a class.
You have very little skill. You could improve if you want to learn. You have convinced yourself that copying comic artists because you want to do comics is the best way to learn. Go find me a good comic artist that isn't also a great illustrator or painter. You have to learn the rules before you break them.
I said several times that that peice was a brush inking practice. do you know what that means?
The brush I use, Winsore newton #6, It was practice to improve my dexterity with the tool.
Lord, I said it like 3 times!!! And on top of that I put Mads sig above my name to signify that I was the inker. That is common practice in comics. Wholy crap man.
Aparently, it people dont like to read so im just going to delet that INK PRACTICE.
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Well we`ll just have to see dem apples wont we.
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Go do something original and stop coming off as being a smart ass. I already don't like you.
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I could be wrong, but despite the rather abrasive way he went about saying it, I believe his desire was to see your own work, un-referenced, so that the community could give you a better critique on what skills you are lacking in and what are solid. As we can't tell this from referenced work, it is a good call.
Now, looking at what has been posted, its pretty clear you do a lot of referencing/copying/whatever. It really dosen't matter. Showing us stuff you do from scratch is the path to improve and make your own comics. This likely means dropping ego a bit and taking some harsh criticism. You'll get better, though. There was a time when I thought my avatar up there was some hot shit, and compared to what I had done before it probably was. A few months following the guys here, and my work is a thousand times better. It's still pretty sucky, but its improving way faster than if I had continued to use manga as my references for drawing.
Seriously, listen to these folk. Don't get offended even when they seem angry or assholeish. The fact that they are taking time to respond to you is something you should feel good about, because they generally want you to improve.
My suggestion: Check out the Dynamic Figure Drawing books from the downloadable PDFs in the Tutorials Thread. Even if its stuff you've already done a thousand times, reinforcing the basics will only improve your abilities over time.
Edit:
It's pretty clear that you aren't here for advice at this point, but just to show off your ego. Come back when you've decided that you want to improve rather than boast.
Read previous posts you 12 year old.
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Then you had a crappy teacher.
you don't get to come in here like your shit don't stink..get called out for it, then get to defend yourself.
Half your panels are like this. Just because you can justify it to yourself doesn't make it right. If you have the attitude that you're amazing, and you have a "process" (i call it stealing) AND THAT YOU'RE STICKING TO IT. Then why did you come here? To Impress us with half assed stuff?
have some humility, and learn from people here. I am not even claiming i'm great, but there are AMAZING artists here, Iruka, nightdragon, Dmac, tam. wak, just to name some off the top of my head. Ask them if you think i'm lying to you.
You're now 12
And so are you Eddiblefeces
Seriously, stop being aggresive like that. Either come up with some seriously intelligent arguments or act really nice. Seems you got off on the wrong foot there :? But damn, you shouldn't have posted it either way.
Now take a deep breath and start from scratch
Its already known that its the same pencils, youve obviously never used a brush. or other wise your would know that brush work takes dexterity. Inking comic books is a skill in itself and I was practicing line weights.
do you know what line weights are?
I dont even feel like explaining this to you.
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Look up Vilas tonape on google. Seriously....
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and here 2 older ones too
Mmmmmm.... food criticism... /drool
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