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Firstly, my hair is long and colored. Secondly, I'm currently using the cheap grocery store shampoos. I've only tried three or four but they've been disappointing so far.
What happens now is, whenever I use shampoo (and conditioner) my hair ends up limp, lifeless, it sticks together and it's hard to manage. It stays that way until the next time I take a shower. Now if I use shampoo one day then the next day I'll only use conditioner and my hair will turn out just great. At the same time if I go more than two days without shampoo my hair ends up slick and oily.
The stylist who colors my hair assures me the only way to fix this problem is to buy shampoo and conditioner that cost >$40 combined. I'd rather not do that, but if it's my only choice then whatever I can't help it. Before I spend that much I'm curious if there's any other option?
What happens now is, whenever I use shampoo (and conditioner) my hair ends up limp, lifeless, it sticks together and it's hard to manage. It stays that way until the next time I take a shower. Now if I use shampoo one day then the next day I'll only use conditioner and my hair will turn out just great. At the same time if I go more than two days without shampoo my hair ends up slick and oily.
The stylist who colors my hair assures me the only way to fix this problem is to buy shampoo and conditioner that cost >$40 combined. I'd rather not do that, but if it's my only choice then whatever I can't help it. Before I spend that much I'm curious if there's any other option?
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Using expensive products is a good investment. You do realize you don't have to use huge gooping amounts of the stuff either? Most people assume their head needs to look like a bubble bath while shampooing to actually be clean. Those expensive products will last much longer than you think they will and the difference is amazing.
Have you checked around at any beauty supply stores? When I was younger my mother used to buy the stuff that's sold in salons from there and it was much cheaper than where we got our hair cut at. Alternatively, check the some stores on the 'net.
It's still going to be more than what you buy at the supermarket but probably won't be as crazy expensive as the prices at where your stylist works.
Other than that - look at the ingredients on the cheaper shampoos. Some of them do have better quality ingredients than others. A little experimentation is usually required but I have fairly limp, lifeless hair (though not coloured) that requires regular washing and I, for example, find http://www.organixhair.com/ great for me - the pomegranate and green tea one works beautifully on my hair (and it really does smell good!)
Most beauty supply stores require you to have a cosmetology license to buy from them.
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Is it? I just use my facial soap to wash my hair, since it's like half a millimeter long, but I'm open to weird expensive shampoos if they'll make my scalp orgasm or something.
They're totally awesome and smell fantastic and at $1.99 FOR EACH they're not breaking the bank either.
They're all natural hippie not tested on animals made from plants etc. etc. but they're cheap as heck and make my hair feel wonderful.
I recently got some Healthy Sexy Hair shampoo but that's because it was super discounted and smells like pumpkin pie.
Though there's a price difference for sure, I'm not really noticing a big change in quality.
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For people with actual hair, yes. You probably don't even need to use soap on hair that short. Unless you have dry scalp, then something like a tea tree based shampoo would be good.
Also, Shampoo + Conditioner combos are garbage. Don't use those.
But that's another story.
Usagi's the one who helped me, and I can safely say that everything she's recommending is awesome. The shampoo bars, and the Davines especially (oh my god). That's like $25/bottle shampoo though.
If your hair is super long, I'd go a step further and recommend that you go to a whole foods store or something and pick up a little container of organic coconut oil. You can buy all kinds of oils to scent it with (if you wanna be all girly), and it's fantastic for it. It'll feel like somebody else's hair.
Bumble & Bumble is really great. I think they've started selling outside of salons now too.
The haircare in nice because it helps to keep build up from forming since it's silicone free.
Squeaky Green/New/Karma Komba/Ultimate Shine in the solid forms would be awesome with your hair problems + color protecting.
Daddy-o in the liquid.
Veganese conditioner.
(both Daddy-o and Veganese are full of seaweed which are great for detangling/moisturizing fine hair without adding weight like lots of oils, butters, and resins do.)
Avoid anything with lots of salt/citrus.
Edit: and as far as costs goes the shampoo bars are $10 and last me about 6-7 months. I wash my hair every other day, sometimes every two.
I see shampoos like wines. Sure, there are lots of $15 bottles of wine that are terrible, but that doesn't mean there's any reason to move onto $50 bottles of wine. Instead, just find the good $15 bottle of wine that's as good, if not better, than the random $50 one.
Really? When I henna'ed my hair I didn't have any issues with anything except Rehab (which I love.)
Godiva, Curly Wurly, and Trich are all meant to protect color but if the OP has problems with lifeless hair they're all going to add so much moisture they'll probably just weigh it down and grease it up.
Depends on how you store it. I have a wide-mesh metal holder for super fast drainage and drying, that I keep hung on the shower wall above where water can hit it (about eye-level on the wall opposite the shower head), and they last me about 2-4 months of daily use. They do melt very fast so if you can't find somewhere to store it where it will dry out pretty quickly, you can cut that amount of time at least in half. Don't store wet shampoo bars in the tins they give you, because that will make them last about two weeks. I use something like this to make sure they dry out quickly and don't melt.
Yes, because almost everything has citrus in it, and a decent amount. When using Lush shampoos I have to dye my hair every two weeks at a minimum. Really, after a week it starts getting blonde again.
It's a conversation I've had many times with the Lush girls locally (other Caca Rogue gals) and they suggested I give Reincarnate a go so I'm giving that a try, but they also admit that Lush has kind of forgotten about us. Supposedly one was created recently but it hasn't been approved and if it were it'd be a year or so out before it went into production but the girl at my local store who got a sample loved it.
I can't give you the science, but it's obviously a higher quality of ingredients and I'm sure there are added things that you won't find in cheaper shampoos to help maintain and enhance the hair. Quality ingredients = more $$$.
It's like anything else. Ever use cheap soap vs. something nice on your skin?
The cheapest surfactant used in mass brand shampoos is Sodium Lauryl Sulfate. It's very inexpensive and effective (from a formulator's point of view), hence it's popularity.
There's been a backlash against SLS from both natural-oriented consumers and producers (I believe LUSH makes it a point not to use SLS at all), so bear that in mind if you're worried about that sort of thing.
The reason why some of these other shampoos are more expensive is because they use more effective and complicated surfactant systems. For example, one of the up-and-coming ones is made by Rhodia, which acts as both a surfactant, emulsifier, and a stabilizer all in one, which makes shampoo formulation a snap. (INCI name is: Sodium trideceth sulfate, sodium lauroamphoacetate, cocamide MEA, for the curious) And as you can imagine, these sort of ingredients cost more, hence the markup when it finally reaches consumer distribution.
And that's just the surfactants. There are plenty of higher-end conditioning and sensory-improvement ingredients that formulators use when trying to make more premium shampoo and conditioning formulations.
Edit: As a quick aside, I'm very interested in this Freeman shampoo someone mentioned from the last page. Charging only 3 bucks or so for a 13.5 fluid oz package? The only way they could possibly make money on that is if they keep the surfactant and active levels very low with a larger-than-average portion of the formulation being water, which basically makes it the Cetaphil of the shampoo market.
Nope, Lush uses SLS in everything. There's nothing wrong with SLS, and people who are "naturally oriented" often have their heads oriented where the sun doesn't shine, in regards to that matter.
Freeman makes good stuff, not just shampoos, and it's not any less powerful than anything else I've used, which includes eeeeeexpensive salon brands.
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